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Layoff bomb detonates; Large corporations join small businesses in announcing mass cuts
http://twitchy.com/2012/11/08/layoff...ing-mass-cuts/ Hispanic group demands national amnesty for 11 million illegals Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/09/hi...#ixzz2BjwUXKJg Dominance of GOP Governors Continues http://www.commentarymagazine.com/20...ors-continues/ Here's a little something we ALL should consider in my opinion: A few pages back there was discussion about the future of the GOP. I believe that Thomas Sowell puts forward an excellent essay on this subject.
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2012-11-09, 12:35 | Link #3003 |
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Since *nothing* changed in the business climate between last week and this week, I have to call these "result of election" business layoffs the acts of three year old infantile jackasses who are terrible at business.
They're letting their retarded emotions run their business instead of the calculus fundamentals involving the bottom line. If the laws actually change or taxes actually go up? Fine, do the math and make the choices... though I bet the choices don't actually require layoffs that often. No respect for these twits. Frankly, employees done this way should be filing lawsuits -- there's a negative bottom line impact. As for Defense companies like Boeing or Lockheed-Martin, they lay people off in droves every year (and then hire them back when the next contract comes in). The restructuring of the DoD will cause turmoil as it always has every 5-10 years. Hell, Lockheed-Martin is infamous for hiring people up for projects they haven't won yet -- people move their entire lives to new towns -- L-M loses the bid and then fires everyone. Thousands screwed, film at 11.
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2012-11-09, 12:41 | Link #3004 |
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So, since we've gone all "economics" thought I'd come in here and chime in with some observations. Here's something I contributed over on the news thread yesterday:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...30#post4431030 Which coincides with data today on improved housing data and improved consumer confidence. Bloomberg News: Confidence among U.S. consumers rose more than forecast in November, reaching a five-year high as the labor market showed signs of improvement. http://www.northjersey.com/news/1780..._forecast.html Take what you will from all this, as the fiscal cliff and household debt balances remain major issues, but there are some positive signs. Outlook remains uncertain at this time |
2012-11-09, 12:59 | Link #3005 | |
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I don't see why they are laying off in masses their employees. Management is a good thing to lay off (I consider companies with too many non-technology dept managers as inefficient), however if they are laying off ENGINEERS it is a different issue, considering they are the driving factors of these companies. However, they have to consider that the world is pretty interested in buying up their F-35s and that is one hell of a job creator.
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2012-11-09, 13:10 | Link #3006 | |
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The defense company layoffs have been in the works for months as part of the natural business cycle. Conservative media are simply creating connections to the election that don't exist. In Boeing's case, its just a resizing to reduce the number of middle management layers - no engineers involved. I assume L-M is doing the same. Frankly, the next week or two we're going to see a lot of "bad reporting" from the right wing media and blogosphere as they work through their anger/grief/denial stages.
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2012-11-09, 17:04 | Link #3010 |
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Man if the U.S defence budgets can be cut it would go a long way towards helping the deficit. In fact i remember hearing that the budget could be balanced overnight almost by cutting out wasteful defence spending but not sure if that's actually true. Sounds plausible though considering just how much of the GDP it takes up.
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2012-11-09, 17:12 | Link #3011 | |
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And yeah, "business expenses" .... let's see my country club dues versus Joe-Bob losing his house trying to find another job because I canned him. Oh, I like the idea of Joe-Bob starving, I'll go with that. Before I'd lay anyone off, I'd be looking at a lot of other things, price of product/services, where expenses can be cut, my perks, across-the-board hour reductions (e.g. 35 hrs/wk versus 40) --- and that's assuming I was actually seeing a real change in cost of operations. There has been no real change in cost of operations.
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2012-11-09, 17:42 | Link #3013 | |
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James Moore (long time Texas columnist and commentator) sums up Karl Rove:
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More hilarity/tragedy, Governor Rick Perry and Satan - http://www.moorethink.com/2012/09/25...tan-and-state/ Racial anger in Texas and the South - http://www.moorethink.com/2012/09/20...ook-down-upon/
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2012-11-09, 17:46 | Link #3014 | |
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Not that I don't agree with you. If they're the kind of people to cut their nose to spite their face, there's no reason to be guided by them. |
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2012-11-09, 17:53 | Link #3015 |
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Obama insists on tax hike for rich as part of fiscal deal
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8A80WV20121109
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2012-11-09, 18:01 | Link #3016 |
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And the "creepy misinformed rape" Republicans went down zero for nine. Here's a rundown on what they said, in their own words, and what happened.
Keep in mind that these guys and their like-minded types had spent 2010-2012 actively proposing and at the state level, passing restrictions (based on not a lick of science, rationale, or compassion as far as I'm concerned). It is interesting to see the Latino positions on the matter - that actually surprised me.
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Lessons learned from 2012 http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83273.html Sorry, but the second point ( ''Democrats have a liberal problem'' ) look like bullshit to me.
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2012-11-09, 18:29 | Link #3018 | |
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