2016-03-04, 00:55 | Link #921 | |
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-Our MC solves the problem and identify the kidnapper/murderer but can't prevent the murderer from killing at least 1 kid. -After getting the murderer arrested, he jumps back into "present" time. -During summer, our MC goes to where he and Kayo had a promise. Kayo had never forgotten it and always went there during the summer in hopes of seeing him again. -The two of them meet again in the "promised" place. ---The end--- Whether they end up a couple or not is left to our imagination. |
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2016-03-04, 01:22 | Link #922 | |
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2016-03-04, 01:23 | Link #923 |
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I don't even think you can categorise it as mystery. Doesn't mystery entail a group of suspects? Here we have gotten nobody introduced in 1988 but the teacher and it runs late to introduce one. It's more like a mixture between human drama, thriller and a slight bit of mystery. People miss the point of the series when they complain that the mystery came up too short until now. It was never the focus of the series in the first point.
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2016-03-04, 01:33 | Link #924 |
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Well, I think I can already see where this is going. This episode gave away way too much and didn't even bother to introduce any more suspicious characters.
Although I think it's fairly obvious, I'll keep quiet. It should suffice to say that either this is some genius misdirection or Satoru is unusually slow for a 29-year-old kid. |
2016-03-04, 02:24 | Link #925 | |
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Personally, I see two major themes: first, that idea of "if only I had done something," which for Satoru is now "I just need to do something." At least one major blogger has linked it to a 'childish' desire on his part to become a hero, which you can say is supported by the references to his own childhood hero, Wonder Guy. But I wonder if looking at it from the opposite stance might be more fruitful: I'm reminded of something a few creators have said about what makes a hero--they don't try to be one, they just do what they believe is right. They do what they have to do, what they can do. Is Satoru thinking of his childhood hero because he wants to be a hero? Or is he thinking of him because the lesson he picked up is "to do what is right"? The second theme I see is one that the one about trust: you believe people because you want to be believed. And if your trust has been betrayed once, then you might find it difficult to believe in people again, you might find it difficult to let them really know who you are. This is probably more important, even if most people don't think about it until they've had a negative experience associated with this theme. Come to think of it, that may actually be one of the reasons it resonates with me. Do the rest of you see different themes here? Alternatively, can you specify in more detail what you personally find compelling about what we've seen? I'm just curious, because it seems like there are a lot of different views, but the ones I remember most strongly go along the lines of "they're so cute together"...which I personally find a little disconcerting for the reason stated above...
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2016-03-04, 02:34 | Link #926 | |
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2016-03-04, 03:03 | Link #928 |
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Wow, I'm certain that Ms. Hinazuki will take out both Satoru and Sachiko Fujinuma. Good thing the Child Welfare Agency and Gaku Yashiro came at the right time to rescue Kayo Hinazuki, but her fate is still uncertain afterwards. Meanwhile, I feel suspicious about Gaku Yashiro as he's hiding something inside his car compartment box. Sure that it's full of lollipops but there's something hidden beneath a pile of candies. By the way, will A-1 Pictures cover the last manga chapter of BokuMachi? |
2016-03-04, 03:20 | Link #929 |
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What compels me most about this series are the emotions and atmosphere. The scenes with the "Christmas Tree" and the museum felt surreal and nostalgic. The story draws us in with the characters, and it makes us feel close to the characters. The mystery and thrills are just added bonuses. Considering Satoru's lack of intelligence, or maybe lack of awareness, for a 29 year old in a 10 year old body, I'm not sure what to make of any themes concerning him. His powers of revival might have came about because of his desires to become a hero; hence, his revival allows him to save people. So far, the show feels like a nice ride instead of a mystery to solve. Actually, Satoru has not been trying to solve any mysteries at all. His actions have always been to try and save people. He has made no attempts to identify who the killer is or to capture him. So what has made this series so special so far is the emotions it brings to the audience. My concern with this point is that, if he is truly the killer, Yashiro has been hinted to have already killed a girl in a nearby town, which was reported by Sachiko's reporter friend. He has already headed down the wrong path. Also, being a politician in the future with a different name, that suggests that he had already married but still continued to abduct girls and murdered them. I don't think having Sachiko mixed in will fix any of that.
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2016-03-04, 05:30 | Link #931 | |
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You're not by chance under the impression that we had cellphones in 1988? The landline phone # for the Fujinuma household is already known, and all Satoru would need is Kayo's grandma's # later on. Pagers (known in Japan as Poke-bells) were around, but I've never had one growing up in the late 80s in Japan, nor do I remember any other kids having one. At least not until highschool. And I was a city slicker in a MUCH higher populated Osaka, unlike the remote wherever nowhereland in Hokkaido this is taking place in. Heck it was even before internet was a thing, we didn't even have e-mails to exchange!
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2016-03-04, 05:52 | Link #933 | ||
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Remember that during the time Satoru was originally from - before his first Revival - Kayo was a classmate he never got involved with, because she was an loner outside of his circle of friends. He only thought how Yuuki was framed for it, but adopted a "don't ask" policy because that's how he lived, and what his mother wanted to protect him. But when his mother was murdered and he was framed for it, that's when he realized the way he was living his life was wrong. After his first Revival back to 1988 happened, he decided to get involved with Kayo. But when his friends teased him and started shipping him together with Kayo, he got embarrassed and started backing off. As a result, Kayo went missing again, and Satoru ended up back where he left off as an adult, running as a fugitive after being framed for his mother's murder. It wasn't until after Satoru returned, got Kayo involved and got himself framed again, then had a Revival back to 1988 again that he, in his own words, decided to "throw caution to the wind" to save Kayo. Quote:
The other problem with your point is that you also have to prove that Satoru cares less for the other two child victims he knows of during 1988 than he does for Kayo, which in turn contradicts Satoru's character development. I think the story is about Satoru's growing sense of justice as much as, if not more than his growing compassion for Kayo. A narrative focusing on Satoru's character can go hand in hand with a growing compassion for others. A narrative focusing on Satoru's compassion for primarily Kayo , however, cannot go hand in hand with Satoru's growing sense of justice because it implies that he prioritizes Kayo's life over all other victims, and would leave others to die if need be to make that happen. Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2016-03-04 at 06:11. |
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2016-03-04, 06:24 | Link #934 | ||||
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I have to admit that despite the closure this episode has been a bit of a step down, very little step down but still. Starting from the shovel. I mean, really?
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On the other hand is interesting to note how nobody were doing what they had to do apart from Satoru (with "some Revival help" of course). Not Yashiro, not Kenya and in the end not Sachiko. Satoru had to leap back there to make it happens, and it took a lot of effort to save Kayo, Yashiro had to involve a lot of people. In the end I don't think that "being a Hero" is a key of the story, but more a way to differentiate the kid layer from the adult layer. One of the things I find compelling is how the show was able to portray two different levels, the one of the kids and the one of the adults, in a realistic way. So for how much Satoru may have thought about his plans the adults (her mother) was always one step ahead. (To note that it is realistic even because Sachiko is a caring mother, not because she is just an adult). On the other hand it took a child and his dream to be a hero to make it happens. Kenya is an odd ball here, since he seems an adult, but is a kid. So what's the point about him? He's mature enough to note everything about Kayo, but is also adult enough to let it be? Quote:
Also the realism of the interactions are also to be praised. That's somehow the reason I'm liking equally this show and Grimgar, for the ability to portray things, people and interactions realistically. I don't remember (in the eighties) not a moment in which I thought something was out of place, whatever it may have been. In a way the mystery is really getting in the way .... Quote:
I'll be sad when we will be confirmed discover who the culprit is.
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Look, the amount of time and focus specific elements of a narrative receive does matter. It leaves a definite impression of what is most important and central to the story. If Kayo's story gets most of the anime runtime, and the other two potential victims get relatively very little time, then what does that say? Like it or not, it does say something. Quote:
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2016-03-04, 09:16 | Link #936 | |
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When I said exchange information, I did include phone number in it, but I also wanted them to promise to meet again. |
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2016-03-04, 12:07 | Link #938 | ||||
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At the beginning of episode 3, he races Hamada and holds back out of "consideration" for Hamada, which of course only makes it worse. That was when Hinazuki also distanced himself from Satoru, since he was being disingeniune. The entire point behind episode 3 was that Satoru unintentionally made the same mistakes because he went with the flow again. Quote:
Correlating Satoru's high priority for Kayo to his level of compassion for her is also a faulty line of logic. Are you saying that Sachiko is also an afterthought along with the other two victims then? Of course not - she just wasn't in any danger at the time for him to worry. Quote:
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And why tell Kenya that he wanted to be a hero of justice then, instead of something like "Hinazuki's knight"? And why stay in 1988 despite having already saved Kayo and Yuuki? Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2016-03-04 at 15:32. |
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2016-03-04, 13:05 | Link #939 |
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Kayo's mom finally got confronted.
Things didn't look well. With a twist of fate things suddenly changed. Kayo was saved. Time to save the rest.. a bit ambitious of him. Would be interesting to see Sensei hook up with Satoru's mom ^^ Kenya was as perceptive as always about Satoru's intentions. I slightly suspect Sensei.. right after Satoru told him about the trailer, the stuff was gone. Great episode!
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2016-03-04, 13:21 | Link #940 |
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Haven't been consistently following the thread. But it sounds like we might get an original ending? Wasn't planning to read the manga initially as I thought it would be faithful, but it looks like I'm going to read it after all if it goes original end. Anyway, that candy discovery was preluded by some really suspicious friend making technique.
edit: Is Airi even important? (not a question that needs answers or hints from source readers) I originally had the feel that she's 'true route' but it seems like there are too few episodes for that to happen. |
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