Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru [Light Novel]

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by NeutralZero

But didn't she already return his notebook?
Which also means that she's already freeing him...

Who knows if she has already made a back up copy.

[larethian]

^ it doesn't matter. The notebook at this point in time, and probably has been since a long time ago despite Masuzu's denial, is merely a symbolic thing. See it like a 'bond' in their relationship.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by kazzuya13

she would break up with Eita

She already has. That's what she did with the e-mail she sent him at the end.

[kazzuya13]

break-up though mail and personal is different. I think Eita will not accept it until she told him face to face

[Used Can]

In this case, the effect would have been the same.
She's "breaking up" with him, not because she no longer wants to be with Eita, but because she's giving up.
Remember she was about to give up in volume 2 and volume 4. The difference being this time she actually put it into words (even if it was by e-mail) and she returned him his notebook.

Eita's main issues in the following novels will be:
1. Sort out his own feelings.
2. Deal with the girls depending on what his answer for #1 is.
3. Regardless of what his feelings might be, he'll probably still want Masuzu not to give up and stay, which means confronting her again and have her be honest with herself. This also means confronting her father, by having him let her be (and recognise them as a couple, if that's what Eita's feelings are).

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by Used Can

In this case, the effect would have been the same.
She's "breaking up" with him, not because she no longer wants to be with Eita, but because she's giving up.
Remember she was about to give up in volume 2 and volume 4. The difference being this time she actually put it into words (even if it was by e-mail) and she returned him his notebook.

Eita's main issues in the following novels will be:
1. Sort out his own feelings.
2. Deal with the girls depending on what his answer for #1 is.
3. Regardless of what his feelings might be, he'll probably still want Masuzu not to give up and stay, which means confronting her again and have her be honest with herself. This also means confronting her father, by having him let her be (and recognise them as a couple, if that's what Eita's feelings are).

I think Eita will think that masuzu was forced by her father to break up with him. And he will confront both Masuzu and her father

[whitecloud]

At any rate....at the next volume eita will definitely confront masuzu, and maybe meet her father, but the resolution of masuzu staying might not because eita persuasion but rather the other harem member provocation...

[Okashira]

Anyway, ゴゴゴゴゴゴ.....

So, translation of the first volume is done. Sadly editing is far from reaching that very same state (ups?)

[[X].I.E.[N]]

Originally Posted by Mentar

Based on larethian's summaries, ...

Spoiler:

I'm 95% sure that a Masuzu end is locked in now.

Close to the end of the story, the standard drama arc postulates that the heroine and/or the hero have to be on their knees, and that's where they are now. Both of them, in different ways.

Masuzu is finally realizing her own feelings, and so are Hime and Eita. Keep in mind: Hime is not implicitly ceding Eita to Chiwa, but to Masuzu. Eita is finally adding up 2+2 with Hime's help and determined to follow up, staying at Masuzu's side in whatever form (lover, fake boyfriend, accomplice). It's only Masuzu's stubborn facade which is remaining, and it's beginning to crumble.

Back on her own, Masuzu's reminiscence over Eita is turning from petulant rejection to grudging acceptance, and in the end, genuine tears. In my interpretation, she realizes that "love" can be a beautiful, touching thing, and not the emotional disease she has been treating it up to now. She had already admitted in the past that she's feeling envy for the "genuine" girls - her anti-romance stance is limiting her and forcing her into isolation. But she can't deny her pseudo-conviction and come clean.

Her final misconception is Eita's relationship with Chiwa, where Eita's genuine care for her moved her to tears. Her willingness to let go of him in the end is rooted in her decision not to "stand in their way" anymore after watching the kiss, and in a way, it's one of the few genuinely selfless gestures she ever did. However, it's just a final outburst of self-delusion, because in the end, Eita thinks of Masuzu entirely differently compared to his thoughts of Chiwa.

Chiwa is family, someone he deeply cares for, like family. She's been less of an osananajimi, but more of a little sister to him. However, I'm not aware of any incident where he had romantic feelings or sexual tensions towards her. Very different to the various scenes with Masuzu.

I'm pretty sure that the next volume will be the final or next-to-final one and be very Masuzu/Eita-centric. She's the girl whose wounds have yet to be healed, and whose growing feelings to Eita have increasingly undermined her own conviction. This is why she's become weaker and weaker, and more susceptible to counterfire.

So, she'll have to have to suffer till she breaks and acknowledges the truth that she DOES love Eita. Wonderful dramatic stuff. I'm sure that Eita has the tenacity which is required to break through to Masuzu.

Looking forward to the conclusion

Spoiler:

yeah, I think likte that too. It seems Masuzu almost realize her own feelings but she keep stubborn. She must reveal that she does love Eita, I think the two of them may heal from anti-love thoughts after they find a resolve to their own family's problem

by the way, when will vol 7 release? anyone get a clue?

[Miraluka]

Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru Ai chapter 2 and is freaking hilarious.

Ai's dad is gonna explode soon.

Chapter 4:

Ai being NTR-ed by her own delusion ... ntr, ntr everywhere.

[soratanobaka]

So he ended this Light Novel at volume 6.5, just telling us "ummm hey, so I'm not going to give you an answer about what happens after Masuzu left Eita, BUT DID YOU KNOW KAROU IS A GIRL". Please someone tell me there are more volumes coming

[taichi-kun]

What? I think the LN are still on going...

[Okashira]

Originally Posted by taichi-kun

What? I think the LN are still on going...

Yeah, this is true. The problem is that for a while the author hasn't put up more than one or 2 books a year (this year saw volume 6 & 6.5, after that I knew that I couldn't hold my breath for more 2013 releases )

Oh, speaking off, I once mentioned that the author did no side project this year, but I was actually wrong. At first escaped me, but later I noticed that he did a 90 pages or so 3 part short story called Ore no Kanojo to Osanananjimi a Shuraba Sugiru -1. It was released in the oreshura centric limited release magazine pachi lemon.

Spoiler for Pachi Lemon 7 cover:

Click on the image for a 3200 x 4000 res Masuzu, I know you want to.

Notice how the cover mentions something about -1 final chapter? You can see it unless you are distracted by Masuzu's chest Anyway, I don't know how Pachi Lemon was released and I haven't checked any of -1, but I do know that it doesn't have any illustration (where is my Ruroo fix?). I wonder if they are going to eventually compile it in a single tankoubon, like what they did with +H (which apparently also had a bunch of "short story limited release" in this fashion prior to the manga existence and 6.5). Heck, for what we know Yuuji Yuuji might put up Shuraba Ai in a book.

[Flying Dagger]

I think it is an example of the author having no clue how to further develop the story and diverging too far from the shuraba aspect...

Masuzu is fine, she is willing to play somewhat dirty and stir up trouble. The other girls are just too weak to compete. Instead of a shuraba you end up with Masuzu steamrolling the other 3 combined in a giant bulldozer.

[Miraluka]

^Except Ai, of course.

[leadeater]

Originally Posted by Flying Dagger

I think it is an example of the author having no clue how to further develop the story and diverging too far from the shuraba aspect...

Masuzu is fine, she is willing to play somewhat dirty and stir up trouble. The other girls are just too weak to compete. Instead of a shuraba you end up with Masuzu steamrolling the other 3 combined in a giant bulldozer.

I think that's fine. Masuzu, as strong as she is, is weak against herself in a sense. She might be strong fighting against the other girls, but when forced to focus on herself, she breaks down due to having never dealt with those sorts of problems. No matter how hard she fights against herself, in the end she's going to lose. Plus if the other girls manage to zone in those issues, they have a chance of beating her. Well "beat."

[Flying Dagger]

if my memory is correct Ai also stand no chance. I think the anime made her look good (I didn't watch), but she just does not have the same clique.

Originally Posted by leadeater

I think that's fine. Masuzu, as strong as she is, is weak against herself in a sense. She might be strong fighting against the other girls, but when forced to focus on herself, she breaks down due to having never dealt with those sorts of problems. No matter how hard she fights against herself, in the end she's going to lose. Plus if the other girls manage to zone in those issues, they have a chance of beating her. Well "beat."

Then this defeats the selling point and the main theme of the novel as a shuraba.
The main candidates should be on a every-girl-for-herself basis and be willing to use underhanded tactics. Masuzu is awesome in my eyes because that is what she offers.

This is why I believe the author has no clue what he is writing (lack of proper planning). Even Masuzu broke down to a girl in constant deredere mode who thinks of nothing but rubbing her body against Eito all day.

In fact there novel might have been more interesting if it is a fight between an aggressive Masuzu going after Eita with underhanded tactics while he aggressively pushes her away. He is a failure when it comes to the anti-romance department.

I see all those side volumes as delay tactics+author giving in to his true desire to sell service novels.

[leadeater]

Originally Posted by Flying Dagger

Then this defeats the selling point and the main theme of the novel as a shuraba.
The main candidates should be on a every-girl-for-herself basis and be willing to use underhanded tactics. Masuzu is awesome in my eyes because that is what she offers.

This is why I believe the author has no clue what he is writing (lack of proper planning). Even Masuzu broke down to a girl in constant deredere mode who thinks of nothing but rubbing her body against Eito all day.

In fact there novel might have been more interesting if it is a fight between an aggressive Masuzu going after Eita with underhanded tactics while he aggressively pushes her away. He is a failure when it comes to the anti-romance department.

I see all those side volumes as delay tactics+author giving in to his true desire to sell service novels.

Isn't the main theme not just shuraba, but also the fact it's a self performing act? The act of pretending to be something you're not? It's not just the fighting between the girls, but also the idea of being a fake. It's always felt like the fighting between the girls is more for the sake of comedy rather than seriousness, while the idea of the self performing act is the more important of the two themes for drama. It's just that now the author is getting into the more serious parts of the shuraba, where it's not just silly tactics and trickery, a battle where it's all for fun and no one gets hurt, but one with real consequences, forcing themselves to question their own act. Like in volume 6, it's primarily Masuzu vs Hime, a very bitter battlefield, not on romance, but rather a battle of ideals, fake vs reality, in which the ideals that Masuzu clings onto being wiped away by the straightforward attack of Hime. And then there's Chiwa making an attack on Eita when Masuzu is at her weakest, causing Masuzu to decide to abandon the battlefield, due to her self-doubt being amplified by the duel with Hime and Eita and the fact that in her eyes, she will never be able to reach a real bond with Eita.

[taichi-kun]

Ohh Dat Masuzu

I didn't know that the manga oreshura +H was based on a short novel

Oreshura -1 could be a story set in the past..

[cRs95]

Hello there,

normally I dont register in forums, but I followed many topics with bookmarks, and finally it's time for me to say HI ^^

Soooo... I watched the Anime of Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru the last 2 days, all 13 Episodes to the end.
I also looked everywhere for some explanations,(sorry If this was already answered, but I didn't found it)

1. Is the Light Novel still on going? Normally there was a break for about max. 6 months or something, and Volume 7 is already 10 months old!

2. I couldn't find a translation for Volume 7, did Eita finally choose a girl? What has happened at the end of Volume 7?

I hope I didn't overlooked any answers for my questions. Thanks in advance!