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But I agree that the plot seems weak the way Obito was so easily convinced. He needed to see what pain saw (namely that killing naruto's close ones does not warp him). |
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One of the reoccurring differences being highlighted between these two (Obito and Naruto) is that Naruto appears to have more support--people who will quickly steer him back on track if he's about to stray off the righteous path. |
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2013-11-06, 22:47 | Link #44 | |
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But you are right in saying that Naruto has more support than Obito did. Obito got found by Madara ... possibly the worst moral mentor ever. Last edited by Cookie-Monster; 2013-11-06 at 23:35. |
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Wait a minute, that's right.
Obito is no Uzumaki, so how did he survive not 1, but 7.3 beasts? (.03 cause, y'know, a tentacle and part of kinkaku and ginkaku shouldn't count as 1 beast each!) Another thing, Naruto was just doing the tug of war with Obito right? Like he did with Kyuubi? So... should he not just be able to control Juubi's chakra instead of having them all separate? I mean, maybe I'm missing something. Or at lot of things.
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[QUOTE=Ushio the Omega;4899439]Guyver is still ongoing volume 30 was released ( http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...eptember-23-29 ) in September at number 33 with 35,000 copies sold.
I appreciate your efforts but reissues don't count for me.The original Guyver series was cut short in 1997.I predict a similar fate for when Masashi Kishimoto stops writing Naruto(same thing happened to DragonBall after it ends with Cell).New writers and artist will take over to continue the series.This isn't a bad thing necessarily because Guyver could use a proper ending,and i liked the end for DragonBalls GT.So maybe a fresh crew for Naruto might be what is needed to bring back Naruto for some fans. A conversation with a Manga editor is one sided"you keep drawing or get replaced,we own your title." I get the feeling that people assume that Obito is of sound mind,that's crazy. Last edited by Monster0; 2013-11-07 at 07:37. |
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One thing was that Minato helped Naruto back to his senses, but more importantly when he got out of the huge rock he immediately got the information from Katsuyu that Hinata and others are alive. So after that when he faced Pain for the last time he already knew that Hinata is alive. Also Hinata can't be compared to Rin, i would say Rin was to Obito like Hinata and Sakura together are for Naruto. But anyway it's not a fair comparison according to Tobirama, he said that Uchiha go crazy when they experience such things |
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Good point though. Last edited by sayde; 2013-11-07 at 17:57. |
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I think they're already under the genjitsu. Since he was fighting Madara, he was "in the eye of the storm" so to speak and has fallen under it before the others.
The supposed idea of the genjitsu is that reality goes away and you live in your own dream world yes? So Madara would be with Rin living his dream life, etc, etc, but Naruto's shtick is to never give up. So he'd probably still be fighting Madara. Sure his dream is to be Hokage, but he would notice he was fighting Madara moments ago. Technically he doesn't have full control of the Kyuubi because his dad has 1/2 of it, so the Kyuubi couldn't wake him from any genjitsu like Bees Biiju can. Plus it' no ordinary gensjitsu anyway.
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