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2009-06-10, 09:41 | Link #983 | ||
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Thanks for the clarification, SagaraSouske. Yet, there's still the "body" part that escapes me. What body, to begin with? Why does Clare have to experience all that with her physical body/physically to understand? Isn't it the same or maybe isn't it enough to do it mentally? Or does she have to do it both physically and mentally? |
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2009-06-10, 11:10 | Link #984 | |
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Rafaela was just being overdramatic. She wanted to know what she felt, everything that happened in her life as if she was her. Mentally is fine all right, but if she was in the face of great danger and pain, physical is quite a good way to get the message across, especially if it involved yoki. Both is preferable. I think you're really wracking your brain over nothing. |
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2009-06-10, 11:32 | Link #985 | |
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2009-06-10, 11:37 | Link #986 |
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I think there are things you can not learn from books or teachings alone especially when feelings like love or hate are involved.
Assuming clare can trust rafaella that's perhaps why rafaella not only gave her knowledge alone to clare. By the way i think that clare's mistake is a mistake rafaella made too. Perhaps Rafaella felt guilty for the awakening of her sister, clare feels probably still guilty(despite irene) for the death of teresa. This could be another possibility.
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2009-06-10, 11:43 | Link #987 | |
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But if you read Italian, Spanish is almost up to date (Chapter 91) and has multiple translators to choose from. It's too bad we can't check any of our translations against theirs, because I get a feeling any translator in German would really have some trouble with that one line. The biggest problem for them isn't translating it, but fitting the German in the dialogue boxes! Seriously, it makes little enough sense in English. If we were to make it logical in Deutsch I get the feeling the dialogue text would be tiny.
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2009-06-10, 12:30 | Link #988 |
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You know, you're probably right and I'm reading too much into it and even expecting something deep from a manga. But I can't get out of my head that mental body option that makes me think of something involving soul-link, suggesting Clare to experiment in that direction, too. I mean, Yagi must have chosen that term for a reason.
Yep, when a new chapter is out, I do check all the translations available that I can read, giving precedence to the English ones. The problem is I'm afraid some English to other languages translators take the English one they prefer instead of the Japanese raw to make their translations . Anyway, I can confirm the latest Italian one was good. *looks around* I have a strong hunch all the talk about translations is getting someone in trouble. Better change the subject. Seriously, it didn't even cross my mind. |
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2009-06-10, 16:59 | Link #992 | |
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Crazy unexpected surprises like Dunames, or me and Amoredoll talking about Kim Possible are a relief I like to help by constantly posting Jim Carrey stuff, like Ace Ventura for laughs |
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2009-06-10, 17:52 | Link #993 |
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If we were to believe Rafaela and her good intentions to reward Clare by giving her the memories and feelings she cherished the most as a sign of high esteem towards Clare because she defeated her and then telling her to look into them to find the big mistake she was/is making, it would suggest me to doubt this mistake to be about Priscilla. Why am I saying this? Because at this point, the logical course of action would be to associate the mistake with Clare's revenge against Priscilla. Or better, the Priscilla Clare remembers, as some of you stated. Well, what if it's something else completely? Yagi has a nice way to surprise me since I always guess wrong. What could it be? ...
It's a common knowledge to think manga aren't deep and are only for children and teenagers. My friends keep on repeating me that I have the attitude to find deep meanings into them when there aren't any to the point of convincing me they're right. They should come in here and see with their eyes. |
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Just look at all the previous posts hun, that's all I can say (But yes, I also agree with you. Everything you said sounds logical) |
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2009-06-10, 20:44 | Link #995 | |
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Claymores struggle with the prospect of awakening all of their life. It would make sense the solution to their ultimate fate would be a better understanding of how youki and there yoma half effects themselves and find ways exert their human will to better control youki and the yoma half within their body rather then be controlled by it and eventually awaken. |
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2009-06-10, 20:57 | Link #996 |
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Clare is already able to control her yoki at a level never seen before.
she released her yoki and concentrated it entirely into her right arm. Rapheala says this herself. she mistakes her yoki disappearing only to realize it is now located only in her right arm. Theoretically, Clare should now be able to do a full body awakening while preventing her mind from awakening along with it
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2009-06-10, 21:05 | Link #997 | |
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That does bring up a possible prospect Vinak. I was always under the impression that their was a very good chance Claire would awaken if she fought Priscilla(not like she has nothing to lose), but this brings up a new good possibility: That she may use all her power and fully awaken, but perhaps keep her mind the same as it was as a Claymore. If she does do that, or perhaps, is able to turn back to normal(depends what you mean by "full-body". Full Awakening with Claymore mind, or just 99% Controlled Awakening?). If this is true, she is truly the kind of warrior the Organization is looking for. |
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2009-06-10, 21:12 | Link #999 | |
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Yes, If their is indeed a Claire vs Priscilla battle, I have no doubt their's an extremely good chance that will happen(assuming she doesn't fully awaken, and assuming their's a battle to begin with) It would let us see Claire's fully awakened form and she still is able to turn back to normal. |
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2009-06-10, 21:19 | Link #1000 |
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It's not just controlling youki, but also control the yoma half in them. Youki is a tool. It's like power gained from hybridizing with yoma flesh. Controlling the yoma is far more crucial in not being consumed by the yoma half and lose the human mind when awakening. Youki however, is profoundly linked to the yoma half. To understand how to control the yoma within, one will need to learn through controlling youki - as demonstrated by soul link.
As a bad example, I will borrow Bleach for a moment. Claymores are like shinigami with hollow powers. Awakening is like complete hollowfication of said shinigami. The inner hollow completely takes over the being. Youki is akin to Reiatsu of hollow nature. A successfully controlled awakening with the claymore retaining control is like becoming a Vizard. You gained the hollow power but do not get consumed by your inner hollow. Of course the comparison is not entirely accurate as the relationship between shinigami and hollow vs human and yoma are different, the link between reiatsu and shinigami or hollow powers are also of a different nature compare to youki and yoma. |
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