2008-11-24, 10:40 | Link #1146 |
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Theres nothing like using your partner cannon fodder while you escape. That was just so wrong yet funny i cant blame Touma for landing that punch at the end i think i would have done the same thing. The story has taken an interesting turn and has actually picked up my interest again. I was wavering for a while but im starting to enjoy the episodes more now.
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2008-11-24, 13:30 | Link #1148 |
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Hmm...I'm still finding this show disappointing.
More vague explainations about things that may or may not turn out to be lies later on. So far this show has been rife with lies and contradictions. In ep8 alone we had - People on "the other side of the coin" can't see us nope, the students in the cafeteria can - Espers in academy city cannot use magic nope, students in the cafeteria again - Gregorio's choir needs a large amount of people for it to work, 3333 for the true version to be exact nope, 7 guys can do it and it's the true version apparently And off the top of my head, in previous eps we had - Stiyl and Kaori are the bad guys out to harm Index nope, they are Index's friends - Index will die if her memories aren't wiped nope, the church lied - Index cannot use the magic stored in her brain nope, in her automated defense mode she can - The legendary Dragon's Breath White Feathers of Doom! Touch one and die! nope, only causes amnesia even after a head shot Speaking of Touma's amnesia, that's another thing that's been bothering me. I don't feel like we actually know Touma well enough for the amnesia to make a difference to his character at all, to me he is the same cookie cutter shounen protagonist as he was before except now he occasionally thinks "oh no I've lost my memories!" as if to remind us of that fact. Back to ep 8, how does Index know Touma well enough to know for certain what he might or might not say in any given situation? They've only known each other for a few weeks at most right? And to be so bothered by it to go out and look for him? The answer is she probably shouldn't know but she has to end up in the clutches of the bad guys somehow! This is just poor writing IMO. Wow it sounds like maybe I should drop this show I probably will which is a shame because I was impressed by the first episode, I think I might have set my expectations too high because of it - like getting lured by the aroma of a plate of food with all the ingredients to be delicious and expecting it to be, only to find it was cooked by an amatuer upon actually eating it. Oh well, I hope the people who are enjoying this show continue to do so. |
2008-11-24, 13:58 | Link #1150 | |
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a) He was using them as his mind control watchmen and the magic they were using was probably an alarm to activated the spell to attack Touma & Styil. or b) In the 6th episode, Aleister allows Magnus to 'borrow' Touma since he was a Level 0, technically a normal human who's neither psychic nor magician. Those Cafeteria students were probably level 0's who still haven't got esper powers and Izzard just brainwash them to use magic and be his guards. Actually, Gregorio's choir was actually done by 3333 monks at the Vatican and the knights were just helping being spotters to aim and increase the fire power of the spell. |
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2008-11-24, 14:13 | Link #1151 | ||
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Or... it should have been... @Kouvley There aren't too many contridictions, but plot devices are many...
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2008-11-24, 14:50 | Link #1152 |
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I'm sure there can be plausible explainations to most of my points but I guess my main point is, with the frequency it's been happening(lies, contradictions, plot devices etc), it's hard for me not to react with a "ORLY?" the next time someone "explains" something.
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2008-11-24, 18:06 | Link #1154 | |
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@Kouvley
I believe I read before in a blog that- Oh wait, let me copy-pasta: Quote:
Maaahh~ The original contents of the message was for the people who whines about explaination, but the point is still clear.
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2008-11-24, 18:28 | Link #1156 |
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That's fine too Lies makes everything interesting, you shouldn't buy what every/anyone says on face value, People are just people and they're capable of being lied to and lie themselves.
Well, not so much for you if/since you know all the answers already
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2008-11-24, 18:41 | Link #1157 | ||
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I assume the person writing the blog is talking about the novel... Yes, those things needed to be explained. Of course, after all. But that is not what bogs down the novels. It's the information required to even understand a centimeter of the plot. Explanation is okay, but when you get pages and pages of it, plus information that is unnecessary and sounds like it came from wikipedia, that's when we have a problem. Quote:
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2008-11-24, 20:38 | Link #1158 |
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It's not so much a matter of making sense or not, it's that the plot is overly convoluted. When you pretty much set every little plot point or explanation up to be contradicted down the road with a plot twist revelation, it ceases to be surprising after it's done often enough. We begin to expect the plot twists, so we aren't terribly surprised when they happen.
Mind you, I do find this show much more tolerable now that Touma has a brain and isn't so hot-headed. Funny that: lose memories, gain brain. And some of the music in this show is pretty good. Yeah... Index walking into a trainwreck in the most recent ep to set up a cliffhanger is a pretty blatant plot device, but I'll live with it.
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