2011-03-29, 21:03 | Link #12761 | |
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Fossil-fuel cars have been around since Ford made the first. Society is too deeply entrenched in using this kind of vehicle for a century to make a sudden switch. Though palm oil cars are the next best bet in mixed fuel cars - but the Asian governments are too dumb to capitalise on this kind of technology.
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2011-03-29, 21:28 | Link #12762 | |||
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Huh, my automobile doesn't cost me anywhere near that much Vexx.
I bought my 1998 Jeep outright for $6700.00 with only 65,000 miles on it. Insurance costs me $325.00 every 6 months ($54.00/month), and gas is about $160.00/month for me at $3.47/gallon. I store it in my driveway, I do all the maintenance, buy the parts from NAPA, don't pay parking fees or tolls (I plan ahead so I don't have to, there are exceptions, but those are very rare), taxes on it are very low ($31.00/year, plus emissions every 2 years adds another $20.00). I agree with you that people MUST have choices and public transit needs to be one of them, but not the only choice. As SaintlessHeart pointed out, there's no way we can convert to electric cars completely over the next 50 years. Electric cars have been around since the 1800s, and never have quite caught on (granted technology is much better now). And considering how far we've come with hydrogen thus far, I think electric-cars are a pipe dream. As for the right to travel ...I don't care what the DMV manuals say. I care what the courts have ruled on this issue. SCOTUS ruled thus: Quote:
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2011-03-29, 22:25 | Link #12763 | |
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With all the hate spewed about the US turning European, I would say that the pipedream is the US ever reforming its public transport system. I honestly have entirely given up on the US, there's more hope in China turning into a state upholding freedom of the press.
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2011-03-29, 22:29 | Link #12764 | |
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I know, I'm a bleeding heart Liberal so just shoot me now. I absolutely agree with you on the US public transit system needing reform. It does, but unfortunately there's no money for it right now. I'm not against public transportation, I just don't want it to be THE ONLY form of transportation. About China....you might be right. _________________________________________ In other news: Home prices in the US decline further. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Home-p....html?x=0&.v=1 Also, 13% of US homes now sit vacant. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Housin...77853.html?x=0
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2011-03-30, 02:00 | Link #12765 | |
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2011-03-30, 02:11 | Link #12766 | |
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speaking of US turning EU-ian, this presidential candidate is deathly afraid that US will be like EU in just a few decades...
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2011-03-30, 02:36 | Link #12767 | |
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That's a very weak argument and is basically an argument to ignorance. Considering it is illegal to walk or ride a bike on most major highways, it is obvious (as in doesn't require the SCOTUS to rule on) that we have a right to own cars. They're property like all other goods and/or services. Government (at least the US government) does not have the constitutional authority to ban property without due process of law. Even arms are protected (a la the 2nd Amendment). We have a right to own any type of property that doesn't infringe on the rights of our fellow citizens. Nuclear weapons are produced by private companies. Even nuclear power plants are owned by private companies. Private property rights in the USA used to be immense before corporate lobbyists got their way. However, even in that case the government had to pay the owner of the land, move his house to the new location, and compensate him for the forced move. Therefore, any attempt to try and make the case that "cars aren't protected" by the court rulings on the constitutional right to travel is inane at best. __________________________________________________ ________ Now back to the news: Very interesting article on inner city Americans of African decent fleeing the "blue" states: http://blogs.the-american-interest.c...tes-in-droves/ Well, if you didn't think there was an international banking elite before, maybe this National Journal article will change your mind. It's about how the bailouts have resurrected the big banks. http://nationaljournal.com/magazine/...0110328?page=5
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2011-03-30, 02:36 | Link #12768 | |
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why group the two things together. its like saying "sex and violence" or "ice-cream and genocide" one is exteremly desirable, the other should be avoided like a virus.
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2011-03-30, 02:44 | Link #12769 | |
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2011-03-30, 02:44 | Link #12770 | |
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That didn't click the first time I read the post. An Islamic controlled atheist country ....talk about a non sequitor. That's like a KKK controlled African country, not gonna happen.
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2011-03-30, 02:51 | Link #12771 |
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China executes 3 Filipinos despite Manila's pleas
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72T0Z620110330
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2011-03-30, 03:25 | Link #12772 | ||
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the UK suffers from the same cultural guilt trip as most of europe that makes them stupidly act like they're suppose to feel sorry and ashamed for their past actions. and they are foolishly trying to atone by acting like their culture is NOT inherently superior to anyone elses. how hopelessly misguided. the US, to the best of my knowledge, has no problem declaring itself as the greatest nation on earth. you know, the PROPER way to behave. Quote:
it's a fear that makes no sense, and its grouping Atheists with Islamists, which also makes no sense.
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2011-03-30, 03:33 | Link #12774 |
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Yeah that sure is the proper way to behave...
Anyway I just came across this interesting recent study and wanted to know if anyone else knows anything about the subject: http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/...splay/?id=6866
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2011-03-30, 03:33 | Link #12775 | ||
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what other way is there ?
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2011-03-30, 03:42 | Link #12776 |
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I don't know about you but I'm happy with the constant critical cynical take we always have on everything (even if it is killing our English football). It doesn't make me or anyone I know "sorry or ashamed" for past actions and I reckon acting like my culture is inherantly superior to everyone elses would be rather backwards.
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2011-03-30, 03:49 | Link #12777 | |
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both aspects are required. if you aren't critical of your culture, then you say that it doesn't require constant improvment. if you accept the idea that it's NOT inherently superior, then you say that there's no POINT in constantly improving it. either option accepts mediocrity.
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2011-03-30, 07:25 | Link #12778 |
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If you accept the idea that it's not inherently superior, then you say that there's every reason in constantly improving it.
If you say it is inherently superior then you say that there's no point in constantly improving it and every reason to oppose change. That's the way I see it.
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2011-03-30, 08:51 | Link #12779 | |
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why defend it ? why try as much as possible to spread it ?
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2011-03-30, 09:17 | Link #12780 |
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The same reason as how old Winston describes democracy: it's not the best out there, but it is as good as it gets after trying all others. Also, I defend my country for other reasons. It's where my family and friends are, and really, do you need any other reasons to live in the place or defend it?
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