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2010-12-16, 19:46 | Link #1903 | |
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The story started to fall apart around the time when Shinn went completely apeshit.. After Stella's arc and Freedom's destruction, Shinn stopped being the main character and Athrun, Lacus and Kira kinda took over and the focus shifted to there POV. And kira never really became the main character, he wasn't all that important to the story (hence the absolute absence of any character development). Athuren and Lacus played a much bigger role than Kira. Fukuda was simply trying to keep the ratings up by having Kira appear often since Shinn wasn't doing anything. So I wouldn't blame Kira for how Destiny turned out, It's like blaming Obama for the mess Bush left behind)
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2010-12-16, 21:37 | Link #1904 |
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Except Shinn isn't a real life character; he can't choose to do anything that appeases real life viewers or not. The fault does lie with Kira, in that Fukuda dumped Shinn's potential to focus on the character that fans liked more. Which is a bit contradictory; Kira is only popular because he was developed instead of left as some whiny character. Fukuda barely bothered to develop Shinn into a character that could draw in fans like he did with Kira in GSEED.
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2010-12-16, 23:41 | Link #1905 | |
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2010-12-17, 01:58 | Link #1907 | |
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If that was true, I guess that Fukuda/Morosawa really pissed off the VAs. Speaking of Kira's VA, I read of a rumor that he cried when they were originally going to kill Kira off at the end of SEED. Just in case you forgot, according to a 2003 interview with Fukuda, Kira was originally going to be killed off, Athrun would lose one of his arms, and Flay was originally to be a human bomb and would destroy the Archangel. Fukuda Interview report Take it for what you will. IMO, it's because of his popularity with the Japanese audience that Kira was kept alive.
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2010-12-17, 02:54 | Link #1909 |
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i'm pretty sure i've said it somewhere in the last 96 pages, but it was because Shinn was such an unlikeable character who the audience could not connect with. there was nothing redeeming about his character, and not only was he childish and annoying, he had the mental age of a 4 year old who had something he liked taken away from him. had they turned him into someone tastefully annoying and obsessed (like Setsuna, maybe) then his ratings might have been better.
and the story was also written so in the end, Shinn was technically standing for the "bad" side.
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2010-12-17, 03:45 | Link #1910 | ||
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If you really meant not to place any blame on Kira, then just take my reply as simply to point out that you should choose your words carefully so as not to be misunderstod. Quote:
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2010-12-17, 04:53 | Link #1912 | ||
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Anyway, I've said what I wanted to say. It's good that you realize that Kira is not at fault any more than other characters are. We disagree on the clarity of your original post, but hey, that's life. |
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2010-12-17, 05:35 | Link #1913 | |
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It's not shins fault that he wasn't able to carry his own damn series because he is not real. But it IS Kira's fault because he is.... also not real? anyways, I'll stop here. It seems Mr.Monster does understand what your talking about..
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2010-12-17, 05:48 | Link #1914 |
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The main reason of this failure i guess is the mismanaged of handling financial system that maybe the reason they took huge of budget to the music groups to make the music so awesome than Seed.
Or perhaps they concern of the popularity viewer rate into decent crash after ep.34 is non other to please the audience is the Kira fans. No wonder why the staff made Shinn like a poor development and Kira made him like a God. |
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Exactly. You selectively quoted my sentence, leaving out the "in that Fukuda etc etc." Of course when you do that it makes it look unclear. You won't understand what's going on if you only read the 5th page of the chapter. Context matters.
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Lesson learned; some people are oblivious to less-than-black-and-white wording, even when the main meat of the post is in black and white.
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2010-12-17, 07:57 | Link #1916 | |
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2010-12-17, 07:57 | Link #1917 | |
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I could just as easily say that Fukuda used Shinn's lack of fanbase as an excuse to use Kira. So, in a way, it's Shinn's fault all along. |
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2010-12-17, 19:26 | Link #1918 | |
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ow and just a fun reminder to everyone: Destiny didn't fail! In fact it's the 2nd most successful Gundam series to date~ In terms of, popularity, ratings, sailes, revenue, ect Destiny was HUGE in the country where it matters the most... Fun facts, just putting it out there..
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