(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[AP24]

Since Asahi's dish is judged first then most likely he will lose, so the Asahi part will be over soon. It should take at least 2 chapters to judge Souma's dish and next week is a double issue so we won't see the conclusion until after next month.

[sparhawk1610]

Originally Posted by AP24

Since Asahi's dish is judged first then most likely he will lose, so the Asahi part will be over soon. It should take at least 2 chapters to judge Souma's dish and next week is a double issue so we won't see the conclusion until after next month.

It is same every year, so yeah I guess most of us know about the one week break...

[n0m@n]

The question would be will you be waiting for the conclusion of the battle despite the break because of....

A. Since you are really hyped about this greatest battle of the series

or

B. You just want to get it over and done with for this series due to continuing for 300 chapters plus

[mickbis]

The quality of this episode made him look like a small fry
reaction isn't that over the top
it just generic.... for a final boss(?)

[Used Can]

If Tsukuda really values his career, once SnS is over (and we don't know if the manga will end with this arc) he would be better off taking some writing courses, even if it's just basic writing.
Ever since the RdC you can tell he has close to no idea about foreshadowing and development (both for the plot and the characters). His inability to write a decent plot (and this manga never needed a plot, to be honest) turned this once fun manga into a mess, with events occurring without any actual set-up, and characters hardly ever developing. The excessive focus on the MC is also not good for the series and even for the MC himself.

I said Tsukuda needs to learn how to develop characters, but now that I think about it, the problem goes deeper than that, at least with Souma. I believe it's a big issue when things are getting complicated, yet the MC is unfazed by things. Even if he's supposed to be acting composed, we should be shown that inside he's troubled. But in Souma's case he's always chill, and that's problematic because if the MC doesn't give a fuck, then why should I?

[DragonOsman]

Well, he does give a damn about Erina, doesn't he? He at least seems like he genuinely wants to help her.

[Tyrant Ruler]

Soma who's unfazed doesn't bother me that's actually the reason I like him most mc are almost the same in shonen but his a bit different just a few scene that show him to be fazed and that's it. He cares about his friends and a bit for erina , opposin both azami and mana proves that to the point after the azami erina evolves and has a goal even some may not like it but he has one. The true problem with this manga is that it completely went of track about the cooking and introduce lame villains and lack of characters devolment for the others Soma for me is fine I don't me i don't need the same mc over in over again. But I want other character to evolves.

[SilverGlavenus]

Originally Posted by Used Can

I said Tsukuda needs to learn how to develop characters, but now that I think about it, the problem goes deeper than that, at least with Souma. I believe it's a big issue when things are getting complicated, yet the MC is unfazed by things. Even if he's supposed to be acting composed, we should be shown that inside he's troubled. But in Souma's case he's always chill, and that's problematic because if the MC doesn't give a fuck, then why should I?

More like the author intentionally makes everyone falls in love with Asahi, but our MC remains cool and composed. It's a cheap way to portray impossible odds imo.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Well, he does give a damn about Erina, doesn't he? He at least seems like he genuinely wants to help her.

It was like 1 scene in 1 chapter, even if we account a few scenes here and there it's now what you would call even a decent form of development.

Originally Posted by Tyrant Ruler

Soma who's unfazed doesn't bother me that's actually the reason I like him most mc are almost the same in shonen but his a bit different just a few scene that show him to be fazed and that's it. He cares about his friends and a bit for erina , opposin both azami and mana proves that to the point after the azami erina evolves and has a goal even some may not like it but he has one. The true problem with this manga is that it completely went of track about the cooking and introduce lame villains and lack of characters devolment for the others Soma for me is fine I don't me i don't need the same mc over in over again. But I want other character to evolves.

The problem is that a character that is always cool and composed is simply impossible to relate to. Notice that plenty of cool characters can be displayed, many times, as keeping a cool exterior, but on the inside they are concerned and are clearly aware that things are complicated. With Souma that's hardly ever the case. He's always there, with that dumb grin, as if nothing is happening, and since we hardly can see his thoughts (which is odd for an MC, and not necessarily the good kind of odd) we can't tell if he's aware of the seriousness of the situations they get to, and what's at stake. He always has this IDGAF air about him, and while a funny gimmick at times, if there's nothing else to it, no actual emotional investment on part of the MC, then why should the reader care?

Originally Posted by SilverGlavenus

More like the author intentionally makes everyone falls in love with Asahi, but our MC remains cool and composed. It's a cheap way to portray impossible odds imo.

Asahi is yet another problem, since he came out of nowhere, has barely even been developed, has no clear motivation/goal, and has no established rivalry with Souma. I mean, he started as a rival for Souma considering his relationship to Jouichirou, then he was switched to someone trying take Erina's affection, then when he couldn't get that, he attempted to take her by shokugeki. One way or another, Erina got shoved into this mess, and the question is why. Asahi didn't know her before, and she's one of the things he wants to get. Even for NTR-bait this doesn't work, because Souma and Erina are hardly even close. It's hard to call them friends, and thus it's even harder to call them potential lovers (even though it's obvious the story wants to head that way).

[SilverGlavenus]

^Yeah, Asahi is pretty much a ridiculous character ever since he beat Jouichiro, who has been established as one of, if not the best chef in the manga.

As for the romance, I honestly don't expect much since the author is clearly not good at this. The chemistry maybe there, the interests maybe there, but that's about it. Readers can't also relate to Soma on a personal level since all his battles were either to compete for a prize, or to clean up someone's mess (mostly Jouichiro's).

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Originally Posted by SilverGlavenus

^Yeah, Asahi is pretty much a ridiculous character ever since he beat Jouichiro, who has been established as one of, if not the best chef in the manga.

As for the romance, I honestly don't expect much since the author is clearly not good at this. The chemistry maybe there, the interests maybe there, but that's about it. Readers can't also relate to Soma on a personal level since all his battles were either to compete for a prize, or to clean up someone's mess (mostly Jouichiro's).

I don't see the chemistry between them tbh

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by SilverGlavenus

^Yeah, Asahi is pretty much a ridiculous character ever since he beat Jouichiro, who has been established as one of, if not the best chef in the manga.

As for the romance, I honestly don't expect much since the author is clearly not good at this. The chemistry maybe there, the interests maybe there, but that's about it. Readers can't also relate to Soma on a personal level since all his battles were either to compete for a prize, or to clean up someone's mess (mostly Jouichiro's).

Yeah Asahi was basically Mimisaka 2.0 and he worked as well as the original aka not very. As for the romance... non-existent. No chemistry at all compared to other characters they're trying to write it into existence but it really hasn't worked.

As for Soma being relatable i'd say no. He's your typical WSJ hero whose got a chip on his shoulder and wins in way so ridiculous that you look at him like... really. If anything Soma is actually overrated as a character.

[Used Can]

I agree on there being no chemistry. It's clear from chapter 1 that Tsukuda would eventually set those two up to end up together (though the (excessive I dare say) focus on Megumi made that questionable). However, no actual relationship has been developed between them.
Seriously, think about it:
- Back when Erina hated Souma's guts, you couldn't call them rivals, because they weren't competing, Erina simply wanted him out. They barely even interacted, and at some point Erina barely even got any focus.
- After Erina accepted him: Still no development in their relationship. They are hardly around each other that you cannot call them friends. Until rather recently, and that's basically one scene, Souma had shown no interest in Erina, and no matter how much her opinion changed on Souma during the Central storyline, Erina's thing for Souma was closer to some degree of admiration and respect, not even once did she see him romantically, and that didn't change post timeskip.

[DragonOsman]

There was only that one scene where she describes her ideal man, who is someone like Jouichirou but also quite conveniently like Souma.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

There was only that one scene where she describes her ideal man, who is someone like Jouichirou but also quite conveniently like Souma.

Yeah, that indeed happened, but that's also not development. I mean, she describes someone close to Jou/Souma/Asahi as her ideal man, yet despite having been around Souma for a year and a half, she's shown no interest in him. I understand her showing no interest in him when she hated him, but after they ended up in good terms, you would have expected her to see him differently if, as she described, Souma is the man she described as being what she finds as her ideal partner.

Development for romance always works in the "show, don't tell" fashion. In this case we got told something, but that something was never shown, even less developed.

[SilverGlavenus]

I think romance also extends to other couples, not just Soma x Erina. The author never really put the effort into fleshing them out, like Tsukasa and Rindou.

[Used Can]

Tsukasa and Rindou, and the other couples not getting any development gets a pass in my book, since Tsukuda hardly gives any proper focus to side characters. I'm not saying that's a good thing, as that's a terrible use of non-main characters. However, that's how Tsukuda has decided to role. Yet, despite all the focus Souma has received, he has actually hardly developed as a character (read: character as in as a person, not solely as a cook). And, although Erina didn't get enough focus during the parts before Central (which was a really odd choice considering she always carried that "main heroine" thing with her, despite her lack of appearances), she did become really relevant once that storyline started, and considering the premise Tsukuda established in chapter 1 (devoting your food to someone in particular), you would have expected him to use their partnership during that story to have them become closer, but he didn't do that. Then Azami got defeated, we got a timeskip and we're shown they haven't grown any closer. And then, of all things, we get some chapter in which Erina pretty much describes Souma-like qualities as her ideal partner, and then we get another chapter in which Souma realises Erina is pretty... like, seriously? If Tsukuda thinks that's even remotely a decent way to kickstart romance into his story, then there's really nothing to say. I mean, the writing in this manga has been terrible for quite a while, but writing a decent romance isn't really that hard, but this is just the worst way to carry things out.

[matt619]

it has been two weeks and there's still no new translation
i will not suprised if ms decided to drop this because it turned so bad

[DragonOsman]

@Used Can: The thing is, Erina probably didn't realize at the time that she was describing both Jouichirou and Souma. Her intention was to describe Jouichirou. That's all that's confirmed.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by matt619

it has been two weeks and there's still no new translation
i will not suprised if ms decided to drop this because it turned so bad

Hm? The Korean scans only emerged on Friday, and ch. 307 did get translated last week.

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

@Used Can: The thing is, Erina probably didn't realize at the time that she was describing both Jouichirou and Souma. Her intention was to describe Jouichirou. That's all that's confirmed.

I'm not so sure if that was her intention, considering that, as soon as she said that, she wondered if Jou had been her first love. So, she wasn't sure of that herself.
The way I saw it, she honestly described the type of person she liked, and as soon as she put her feelings into words she realised Jou fit the description (and Megumi realised that Souma fit the bill too). She wasn't trying to describe anyone in particular.