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View Poll Results: Attack on Titan - Episode 18 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 50 | 52.63% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 26 | 27.37% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 14.74% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 3.16% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 2.11% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-08-15, 01:28 | Link #141 | |
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2013-08-15, 05:32 | Link #145 | |
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So you're worried about small problems the same way as big ones.... learn to check which is more beneficial..... every way has its risk. Its better than doing nothing. Show me a strategy that has no problems and risk... |
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2013-08-15, 06:13 | Link #146 | |||
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In what? Training accidents and titan attacks. Does leaving men in a forest in the middle of nowhere help with that? No. So you're just going to lose additional men. For nothing. You might as well eat them yourself and cut out the middleman.
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My problem with your forest plan is that it is high risk, NO reward. It achieves nothing of value and is costly. Even if everything goes perfectly, which you seem to think is guaranteed but will, in fact, never happen, you'll tie up valuable men and material for nothing. Best case scenario? You gain nothing. Worst case scenario? You lose everything. Tell me again how it's a good idea. |
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2013-08-16, 01:46 | Link #147 | ||||
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Sorry about the delay in response... I got sidetracked...
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Hypothetical observation and/or food for thought (): suppose the Corps manage to hold out for couple of weeks with that routine above, how would be their nerves/psychological state of mind? When are these guys sleeping or taking a break where they are just trying to forget about the titans for a minute? One of the thing this show has been very impressive about is the consistent portrayal of the state of mind of the soldiers. If they don't go crazy by week three.... here is a different element to think about: what stops the armored titan to just come rushing in with a shoulder tackle during the day time when some of em' are sleeping while others are keeping watch. I bet it will be much easier to knock them off of a tree than a fortified, giant wall and have the waiting dumb titans at the bottom to go feast-mode on the soldiers that are falling like apples from a tree. Quote:
The point is, I agree that they need to expand. What you are failing to understand is that the enemy is such in titans that any expansion outside of the city limit has not been successful thus far despite humanity's best effort for the past 100 years. Btw, the city has its own forest too, so may be that's how the people started before erecting a giant wall around it? Some more food for thought... Quote:
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That's quite alright. And I think we are slowly making progress too considering Genjichan has conceded at least on one point at how difficult it is to get supply on a daily basis to any army. We are slowly making him wise, and we can make him wiser yet! |
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2013-08-16, 02:22 | Link #148 |
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I would like to point out that the current expedition is starting fresh.
All the fortifications and emergency supply spots the Recon Corps had done for the past 5 years since the breaching of Wall Maria is now worthless because they are not moving out from Trost, whose gate is permanently sealed. They departed from the eastern most district of Wall Rose, Karanese, so everything there is all new to them. Not just terrain (although they might've reviewed maps), but also safe supply routes for the soldiers to trek till they reach Shiganshina. That's one of the main objectives the Recon Corps has to do, not just discovering new things about the Titans. |
2013-08-16, 02:36 | Link #149 | |
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I disagree with you all.
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2013-08-17, 15:06 | Link #153 |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Monterrey, México
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Forest of the Giant Trees. 57th Expedition Beyond the Walls - Part 2
Ever since the start of this current arc, stress has been building and fluctuating throughout my whole body cringing over if the expedition is going to fail or to succeed.
With each and every inch of land that the expedition moves forward the strees keeps on building up and up, and that's when carnage burst out of a sudden. I would never imagine to hate a Titan with such burning enthusiasm than the Female Titan. That huge b***h practically knows beforehand all the combat moves and maneuver strategies, so what's it's real identity. We definitely know by now that it's the type like Eren, so it has to be someone, functioning like a mole, inside the walls spying from within. The worst out of all is that not even the master soldiers knew what was going on and fear gripped right into their hearts. It's the situation one when faces the unknown and is paralyzed by fear because there's no reference point, familiarity, or common factor to cling onto. It's the type of situation that whatever you do, think, and feel right in the moment that's what counts. Being a sort of snark to quite catch upon things, I was hell confused what was the ruckus about Erwin proceeding as schedulted when after the recon team was lost. I have this raw epiphany which later on in the episode Armin confirmed my deep fears: Erwin's expedition in the recent past has had trouble advancing forward beyond the walls likely of the female Titan's interference. However, I don't know if Erwin's intention to bring Eren forth into formation is their means to fight off the Female Titan, although there are loops in that theory. It would be too convenient if only Erwin and Levi knew about the Female Titan from experience, and how fearsome it is in battle while did not know about it. Even in the slightest possibility, if the knew beforehand then what's the point of meaninglessly losing men and warfare power continuing on with the expedition when common sense would have dictated to retreat? |
2013-08-17, 15:08 | Link #154 | |
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2013-08-17, 15:13 | Link #155 | ||
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It seems your main point is that an army in the trees can forage supplies for itself and the titans can't climb trees. -snip- -Second: There's no raising livestock in huts or raised platforms. Livestock need food and space to grow, lots of food and space. You're not going to be farming/foraging enough for them. There's also no way to build enough platforms space for them to be self-sufficient too. Now that the chickens are on the ground you'll be attacked every time you went down to raise/catch a chicken. Don't say "go get them when titan's aren't there" because the whole point of the outpost is to attract attention. They're always going to be there. Can't even play the distraction game either, if you're there long enough, they'll be there in enough numbers that they can't all be distracted away. (Abnormals too) Sure, they'll avoid livestock, but the livestock will get trampled as well. Not only can you not feed the livestock, there's no place to keep them. -Third: What about non-food supplies? Those blades break, those gas canisters go empty. It's been specifically stated that the hardened steel (and gas) they need to make and maintain the 3D gears is produced by the heavy industries in the cities. Can't move those industries to the trees; they'd need a supply line. -Fourth: You just have a high-risk outpost with supply caches along the way. So you drain resources from the city, risk an army 24/7, and probably not attract all the titans away from the cities anyway. The giant forest is East of Higansha, so all the titans North and South of that city will go to the city anyway. Congratulations, you've just distracted 1/3rd of all the titans away from a city that was built to distract titans anyway. Department of redundancy department! -Fifth: You can't infinitely forage for even a small squad infinitely. Eventually they eat all the berries or kill all the animals. Hunter gatherers back then had to migrate to keep fed. They can't migrate out of the trees for more foraging area. Might take a little while, but it'll eventually happen. Quote:
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1. Front line of defense against Titans 2. Luring the Titans to a > Less populated area away from the walled cities > With strategic advantage for their 3rd gear > Providing an effective ambush site against Titans 3. Serve as a resupplying area for Recon corp. 4. Training area for actual combat experience.. 5. A front for further expansion.. Supplies could be resource from wild games or livestock being raise ABOVE. Other necessity could be sent twice a month from the main base inside the cities every 15 days at night. Last edited by NoemiChan; 2013-08-17 at 17:58. |
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2013-08-17, 17:49 | Link #157 |
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There's absolutely zero benefit to having a post in the woods. It gains nothing for them. At the level of tech they have, there's no way they can hunt at night to sustain themselves without frequent supply trains, which just puts more men at risk. There's just no point in it. Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2013-08-17 at 20:30. Reason: The snide remark is not needed... |
2013-08-17, 17:57 | Link #158 | |
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2013-08-17, 23:47 | Link #159 |
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Being a manga reader I know everything about the Female Titan, but damn, the anime has made her ten times more awesome. They'd be so screwed if all the titans fought like that.
Aside from the human-form Titans that I know about, most of the mystery surrounding the "normal" Titans is still unresolved - even in the manga. Anyway, expect more awesome from the Female Titan with 19 and 20, but the regular Titans won't have their secrets revealed for quite a while it seems.
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2013-08-18, 02:30 | Link #160 | |
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