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Perfect 10 | 211 | 60.81% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 49 | 14.12% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 23 | 6.63% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 20 | 5.76% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 19 | 5.48% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 0.86% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 3 | 0.86% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 0.58% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 3 | 0.86% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 14 | 4.03% | |
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2009-03-13, 07:35 | Link #161 |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
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I can't believe it Fuuko ninja'd 1/3 of the ep.
Anyway if ppl wanted realism then don't go watch anime. You know the laws of anime so you know the drill. You don't like the ending and don't like Maeda writing. Oh well... Lot of ppl like it and the story is sellable so it's considered good. What can't not be sold will always be forgotten. BTW, can anyone tell the song name they used at mid ep before Fuuko appearance?
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2009-03-13, 07:40 | Link #162 |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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why are so many people feeling down about the fact it had a happy ending ?
i loved the ending after all the shit that happend to the characters they deserved a happy ending if i want a super downer ending anime i would just watch saikano again
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2009-03-13, 07:43 | Link #163 | |
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2009-03-13, 07:44 | Link #164 |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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I only gave the ending an 8. Ithought it was a very nice one, but it may have been done in a better way.
As much as I love Fuuko, I thought her part at the end was a bit too long. It may be due to the fact that I didn't fully understand her role though . Well, I will miss the serie... and Kotomi-chan u_u'. I would have love to see more of her...
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2009-03-13, 07:53 | Link #165 |
Ahou ga
Join Date: Feb 2009
Age: 47
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I'm a total sucker for happy endings, so this gets a 10 out of me.
It's an extremely rare thing for a story of any kind to resonate with me on a level I can honestly relate to. The last such story was the movie Big Fish, from which I drew several parallels to my relationship with my own father. I found it to be a terrific movie and it holds a special place among my movie recommendations. I've been watching anime now for more than half my life (got into it when I was 15) and while it's been a fun ride so far I really haven't found any stories within anime that really got to me until I found Clannad and Clannad ~After Story~. As I've said in my thoughts a few episodes ago, I'm a father myself of two wonderful kids. I have an amazing wife who I love to no end and who loves me back. I was raised to believe that two things matter above everything else in life: family and friends. Watching Tomoya's journey from being a self-absorbed delinquent to the man he became thanks to the support of his friends and loves ones has been an affirmation of my belief in the importance of these things. To be sure, he got to his destination the hard way, and for a while there he did lose sight of the goal. No one is perfect, though, and we all waver from time to time. The true measure of any person is how they face adversity. In spite of all the hardship he faced, Tomoya did come around and re-dedicated himself to his family even if it means a life without Nagisa at his side. In spite of his own perceptions of his father, he found it in his heart to forgive him his indiscretions and help him find happiness as well. That all speaks to a strength of character that you simply will not find in a lead character in most stories, be they on paper or on the screen, live action or animated. Ultimately, though, no one can live being 100% magnanimous. You have to want something for yourself as well in life. For a long time, Tomoya didn't seem to want to let himself be happy. To an extent I believe he thought that happiness was simply something he was not meant to have so he decided to make others' happiness his own. That just doesn't work, though. If you don't want anything, you never change. If you don't change you don't grow, and as Nagisa said at the very beginning nothing can stay the same way forever. Not even Tomoya's own misery, which he ended himself when he admitted how important Nagisa was to him. When he called out her name it was with such passion that it shook me. It is rather fitting (and even perhaps a little ironic in a way) that allowing himself that moment of happiness is what saved not only his own life but that of Nagisa and Ushio as well. But then it's also bringing things full circle. Both Nagisa and Ushio saved Tomoya from a bleak, solitary, meandering, meaningless life, after all. I think that's how most guys who get married and have families feel about their wives and children, at least I know that's how I feel. And while I don't come from the same background or go through the same trials in life as Tomoya, it's a message I get loud and clear. Kudos to KyoAni for also presenting the ending in a way that can be construed as being either completely mystical or completely not. The sudden jump back in time to Ushio's birth leaves things at least somewhat open to interpretation. Did Tomoya really go through all that hardship and then wish for a different life, or was it all simply just a nightmarish hallucination as Nagisa lay there laboring to deliver their child? I'm sure most fans of the series, especially those who played the game, will say it was the former. I, however, am completely comfortable looking at it either way. I suppose it depends on your own feelings about the supernatural as to which perspective feels more right, so to each his or her own. As for the Fuko ending...let's be honest, we all wanted to see a little more Fuko before the very end. She is rather cute, after all. A bit touched (and by "touched" I mean "bludgeoned with a ball peen hammer"), but cute. Now I will sit back, enjoy whatever extra bits we get in episode 23, wonder if episode 24 will be another DVD-only thing (please more Kyou oh please oh please oh please) and hope that the rumors of a Tomoyo After movie are for real. |
2009-03-13, 07:56 | Link #167 |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Why is everybody saying this is a happy ending? If this is all a hallucination(as i assume it is because of the incoherence in the episode) then nothing is solved, the last scene with Fuuko finding Ushio can be seen as the result of Tomoya dropping Ushio's corpse under the tree and then commiting suicide, why is everyone assuming a happy ending when nothing was made clear this episode? I think my interpretation is way better, screw dues ex machina.
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2009-03-13, 08:46 | Link #180 | |
Ahou ga
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If I had to wager a guess, 23 is actually going to be episode 1 of Clannad only told from Nagisa's POV instead of Tomoya's. Finally, you can quit the trolling/flamebaiting anytime now. I give you a 2/10 for your efforts, but only because it's a Friday and I'm feeling generous. |
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