2011-08-19, 13:40 | Link #17122 |
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Just thought this might be good reposts. Can't tell where I got this from Jeez, I wonder who the heck thought of changing such a dark series like Claymore into chibi style
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2011-08-19, 14:57 | Link #17124 | |
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It's been one of my favorite Raphaela pics for a long time now since of how dark it is... yet there so innocent too. Hmm... I don't recall this one. Lolz at Yuma and Helen (since they kinda got there comedic cliches going on atm)
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2011-08-19, 17:26 | Link #17125 | |
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2011-08-19, 18:30 | Link #17126 | |
The One Eyed King
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No, no, no... please don't confuse normal anime/manga tropes with Claymore. There is no incest going on between these sisters. It's all about context, recall Claymore is pretty much the anti-shonen shonen, since females are the dominate sex for fighters, there is no romance (the exception so far seems to be Roxanne manipulating Cassandra and a few others), power corrupts not strengthens, the heroes fall and become the villains and not always due to there own failings but pure bad luck often enough, the heroes are practically hermits and shunned yet still willing to throw there lives away for others, there seems to be strong unspoken bonds that develop between fellow warriors yet it's rarely expressed between them (no friendship speech between the two friends, both just know it and accept... though they will explain it to others if it will help them. i.e... Deneve explaining her an Helen to Undine... Even better many know it but can't accept it for various reasons (i.e. Clare with Jean, since Clare doesn't view herself as worthy of it), etc... While many others series use one or two of these many examples it's rare to find ones that do as many as Claymore does at such a constant basis. Anyways, I see the pic as being more akin to Clare explaining her past with Elena (the girl from ch 4) to Raki. Where she described them as crying each other to sleep. The anime went a step further and put them in a prison and the latest chapters seem to have implied the trainees where treated pretty much like that too. So in this case we just have two scared sisters latching on to each other since they're all each other has in a very dark moment of there young lives. Hence why I love the pic, since it so matches our understanding of the days between becoming a warrior and after becoming a hybrid. As much as the girls may have wanted revenge in there hearts after the yoma killed there loved ones even the most vengeful people will get scared a cling to each other when they're completely helpless. This is even more true when dealing with very young children, they truly crave comfort and if they only have each other then they will give it to each other. How do I put this best... Ask yourself what is "art". To me, the answer to this question is something created that makes one think when viewing that thing. Here we have a drawing that makes one wonder just what these two girls are going through and if the viewer knows the context of the plot of the manga or anime Claymore then they'll look at this picture and hopefully realize the intent of what is transpiring in that moment of there lives and wonder just what is causing them to react that way in that moment. Could it be more training? Are they about to get scolded for not training fast enough for the orgs schedule? Have they even had training yet and just wondering what the org will do to them after turning them into hybrids? Are they about to meet Rubel for the first time? I look at this pic and all those thoughts and more just rush through my head. In this fanart there is clearly a vital moment transpiring and these two seem very scared... Rhetorical Question: Is that not enough to make you think about just what it is going on? Recall while yes they are forced to "bond" mentally with each other... just try to imagine what hell the org put these two girls though to make them want to start destroying there individuality (not as much as Alica and Beth mind you) so they'd become dependent on each other. That way they'd not fear there yoki synced minds any more but crave such a bond. So that way they could theoretical completely merge there minds and one of them could "give" there consciousness to the other so she could awaken her body and become there desired weapon (well at least prove it was possible, so a more perfected gen 2 could take there place one day). I mean we're talking about a state of connection between two minds that really exceeds anything the human mind itself is capable of... anyones natural response to such a connected state (at least as implied by these series) would be to reject it. Simply put the mind of one just can't contain the thought process of two individuals at the same time and still keep the original mind in tact. Both sisters must have instinctively sensed this but being forced and manipulated to constantly keep trying by the org that they deluded themselves into believing everything would be alright if they just had each other. Oh, how they must have feared each new level of there training. At least that's what I think when I look at this pic. I've also heard several others talking about what they though of when they looked at this and most where very interesting ways to view that pic. One of them that really stuck with me was the two sisters where looking out the window just remembering there past before all they became hybrids (you know they whole prisoner staring out the window recalling freedom cliche), and then they got startled by the org coming to collect them for more training. While not as "fanboy crazy level of thought" as mine it does really fit the scene too... @anyone reading this if you have your own thought on this pic please share I'd love to hear it. Anyways my point is... this pic, while not drawn or colored with the level of skill of a master artist, it does seem to to have been made by someone who really had an idea or moment they wanted to capture. That just by itself makes this one of the truly great Claymore fanarts. I hate to use the term but this pic has a "soul" to it, or at the very least we as humans personify a "soul" on to it. EDIT: Wow, didn't mean to write so much
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2011-08-19, 20:47 | Link #17128 |
The One Eyed King
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The timing of that after my tl;dr , if I didn't know better I'd say you'd held that in reserve for a "less talk, more pics" moment
Glad too see 尾上純季 is still making Claymore pics ... after a week of none I'd feared his 3 month streak of a pic every 5-6 days was ending.
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2011-08-19, 21:10 | Link #17129 |
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Helo Everyone!
Greetings form Poland!! I'm a new in this forum, and i have some business . .' So, did anyone help me for searching some art of Irene Claymore? I've searched fifty seven pages of 800, and i found 97 pictures - 20% of that it concerned that same Irene . .' I know, that work is enough heavy, but i please you for find some pretty arts... 5-7 is enough for me. Can I count on your help? I please cordially. |
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Em... To be honest, this is my first time going this deeply in conversations freely expressing how I think of an art, so it's kinda awkward and I never meant to type this much either I just give it a 8/10 for the pic in the end.
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2011-08-19, 23:05 | Link #17135 | |
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Erm, this is gone far enough -- since he didn't say it, I quote DGK in saying "Less Talk, More Pics!"
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2011-08-19, 23:18 | Link #17136 | |
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2011-08-20, 00:22 | Link #17137 |
The One Eyed King
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@Jean_Claymore Glad my tl;dr got you to think. Rest assured this is art... it's not about agreeing or disagree but thinking about the art and listening to others express there views. As a die hard Raphaela/Luciela fan I'll accept a 8/10 rating () since as I said it wasn't of the highest level of quality in any manner but at least it did a good job of capturing something that we could interpret for ourselves and yet stayed true to the cannon source material.
@ALL Now a warning... Ryus is about to start joking about souls to make a point at the end of it about his first comment that sparked this nonesense. Sure, why not? (j/k , don't take me seriously here religious people, but rest assured this will lead to a point... eventually ) The AFs are proof of this ... they exist yet are completely soulless since they are devoid of any human personality, even more so than the yoma. [ignore the fallacy logic that's about to kick in, since I'm only j/k] So therefore none of us have souls, and we just have a believe in them... but maybe that is what made them exists in the first place... hmm... more questions now. So... if one views that as true then... Even if true, not all "souls" are necessarily equal. Prove me wrong see above... Once again, even if true... This one started a religion And then there is this thing... a face only an evil flesh eating loli could love. This conversation reminds me of what Yoda said to Luke in The Empire Strikes Back: "For my ally is the Force. And a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us… and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this… [nudging Luke's arm] crude matter! You must feel the Force around you. Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock… everywhere! Even between the land and the ship." Now sure the force is in the tree & rock too... but Jedi Masters don't go stopping miners and foresters from making a living just cause the land is getting effected, just as Claymore don't go stopping humans from eating meat since it's wrong and effects other life forms. They protect the "higher" living life forms since they're what created the force in the first place and in the case of the Claymore's it what they where and what they want to protect... the rock and tree are just beneficiaries and not the source. In this case good art is the upper lifes form and then there's the other life forms and then don't forget the rocks... i.e. like Dauf's face We can argue all you want about all artwork having a soul or not but my point, while worded in a fashion that caused some teasing and joking that needs to stop before mod shows up, was I thought was quite clear. Not all art work necessarily has a soul that everyone can appropriate or connect to as easily, while others will just connect with people to a much larger degree. Think of it like this, what if I was to tell you two things. Which would you care about more... First off on any given day there are like about 8,000 earthquakes on the miniscule level of the Richter (less then 2.0)... while they're all so small you can't feel them you've likely been in a few hundred earthquakes at least by now just based on pure chance on some of those <2.0 quakes happened near you. Second that a 6.3 earthquake happened just 113 km (70 miles) E of Fukushima, Honshu, Japan and there have been typically several of this size and distance a week since the big one that hit there not too long ago. So sure every artwork may have it's own "special" soul but not ever art work truly gets to claim special was meant in a positive manner.
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2011-08-20, 05:25 | Link #17139 |
Hara Mamburu
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And here I am with you again! : D
I've taken a vacation and now I have free time for drawing pictures =) I plan to finish old ones and to make a couple of new ones. A big plus is that it is much more comfortable to work now ( Spoiler for room:
As Gooloo once wrote I also make my drawings of the resolution of my screen =)), at least in something we're alike, but in all other respects -- I'm a fan of his high quality works! And he makes them perfectly well. I have questions -- have anyone heard anything about the second season? And I read the announcements, in which it was said that due to the tragedy in Japan the next monthly issue was postponed but promised to make two issues in the next month - at the beginning and in the middle - I trust people =) was waiting for the release, in vain ( Here are some works that are drawn by hand Spoiler for Di:
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2nd - just like in anime which one is better it's up to you guyz and here I publish my work for the first time, exclusively. P.S. Thanks Ryus for picking up a Latin phrase for Alicia. I think it fits perfectly! If other users were as active and helped pick up such phrases for all the characters, it would have been much easier to create new works! And thanks to him - because if it were not for him, I would have never finished it - that day I my entire database with pictures on Claymore disappeared. Fortunately, I decided to show him the unfinished picture - afterwards it was used as a template (I had to do Retrace) I dont like PhotoBook, sorry, - so here is the link with originals wallpapers http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CVEQ4HLJ BTW, Ryus - I remember about my old work, and I'll return to them, too, and I will take into account your wishes and your friends' suggestions (who wrote PM), so in the near future I will publish finalized versions. |
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