'Pacific Rim' (2013) - Guillermo Del Toro's Mecha VS. Kaiju film.

[Hemisphere]

Originally Posted by Shinji103

On the whole issue about Gipsy's swords, it seemed to me like they were just a newly-developed weapon rolled out with Gypsy's refit; remember they weren't just blades that slid out/folded out of the arms like Striker's claws, but collapsible saw-blades. Collapsible means weaker structural integrity than old-fashioned solid swords, so they needed to be advanced enough so that they wouldn't break in combat.

That too. Plus, it wouldn't fit in with any of the Jaegers on deck. Crimson has its sawblades, Cherno's style is more bulky, heavy punches and no finesse, and Striker already has Sting Blades. Only Gipsy was a potential candidate for having the swords in.

On a design note, Tacit Ronin and Striker Eureka screamed Armored Core for me. You can even find their parts in-game.

[iceyfw]

i usually come out of a movie theater thinking to myself it was a pretty entertaining movie. but this one... THIS ONE... i came out thinking AWESOMESAUCE and i must watch it again when i buy it on blu-ray! and i have never ever purchased any blu-ray movie before. that's how much it impressed me. it totally had nothing to do with me being a mecha fan. yup. no siree!

[solidvanz]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/07/...ray-and-sequel

Spoiler for Kaiju's secret revealed if there is a sequel in the future...:

There was a line that I deleted from the movie that will come back if I do a second movie. Newt explained that the Kaiju are not carbon based organisms like humans, they are silicon based. The only part I left of his explanation is that they have a hive mentality, meaning that if you “drift” with a Kaiju brain, you are drifting with every Kaiju alive.

Depending on the duration of the drift the information might be complete or incomplete, but the Kaiju know everything the human drifts with them knows. That’s as much as I can tell you without spoiling the sequel. Well, that’s providing there is a sequel – if there isn’t one, I promise, I’ll spill the beans.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Rather than a movie sequel, hurry up and get Kojima onboard to make a proper game ! I don't care if you have to make it AU !

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by RobotCat

-Hannibal Chau seemed to know a lot more than he let on, especially about linking minds with the Kaiji. Maybe that ties to the whole conspiracy thing I talked about before.

No Hannibal Chau has common sense. Drifting is a two way experience. That is public knowledge. Newton knowns what the Kaiju knows. That is how he learned they are a hivemind. But now the Kaiju and their masters knows that Newton knows.

Hannibal put two and two together when two Kaiju went a beeline for Hong Kong. He points out how much a dumbass Newton is.

Two Kaiju Category 4 were sent just to kill Newton. So Hannibal sends Newton as far away from him as possible. He already lost an eye from one of those public shelters.

[Hemisphere]

Originally Posted by solidvanz

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/07/...ray-and-sequel

Spoiler for Kaiju's secret revealed if there is a sequel in the future...:

There was a line that I deleted from the movie that will come back if I do a second movie. Newt explained that the Kaiju are not carbon based organisms like humans, they are silicon based. The only part I left of his explanation is that they have a hive mentality, meaning that if you “drift” with a Kaiju brain, you are drifting with every Kaiju alive.

Depending on the duration of the drift the information might be complete or incomplete, but the Kaiju know everything the human drifts with them knows. That’s as much as I can tell you without spoiling the sequel. Well, that’s providing there is a sequel – if there isn’t one, I promise, I’ll spill the beans.

Now we need Mark 5 and higher Jaegers. The Russian Jaeger pilots better be Cryska and Inia this time around. Bonus points for chainsaw arm blades.

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by Hemisphere

Now we need Mark 5 and higher Jaegers. The Russian Jaeger pilots better be Cryska and Inia this time around. Bonus points for chainsaw arm blades.

Forget that. Call in Axel Almer. He'll show the rangers how it's done.

And Sanger Zonvolt. Don't forget to make him a Zankantou.

[Hemisphere]

Come to think of it...after being reminded of BETAs with that silicon-based lifeforms bit, the whole kaiju drift reminds me of Muvluv Alternative.

Wow.

Originally Posted by Shinji103

Forget that. Call in Axel Almer. He'll show the rangers how it's done.

And Sanger Zonvolt. Don't forget to make him a Zankantou.

Imagine if they came up with something like a live-action SRW film, along the likes of Pacific Rim's cinematography. I'd be jizzing buckets glued to my seat all day long.

[Frailty]

I shall rename this movie in my mind as Shingeki no Kaiju because of how similar Pacific Rim is to Shingeki no Kyojin... in a way

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by Hemisphere

Imagine if they came up with something like a live-action SRW film, along the likes of Pacific Rim's cinematography. I'd be jizzing buckets glued to my seat all day long.

This.

Oh, and here's another guy who would fit right in with the Jaegers.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/LvNCKtLLIRc

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Seriously, a Revolving Bunker or the Claymores would have fit a Jaeger like a glove.

[Hemisphere]

Gipsy already used the plasmacaster in a manner similar to Alt Eisen's Revolving Bunker, repeatedly even! Granted, those were just point-blank shots, nothing like stab-and-shoot...but the thought still counts. So Raleigh's almost there.

I'd love to see more Super Robot-inspired and Real Robot-inspired Jaegers. More from Armored Core, and some from Muvluv Alternative, personally speaking, if there's going to be a Pacific Rim sequel.

[Wild Goose]

I'm just happy that they managed to make BURESTO FAIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA believable.

[Hemisphere]

That and rocket punch. There was, like, only one other Mazinger nerd with me in the cinema I watched it in. So depressing.

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by Hemisphere

That and rocket punch. There was, like, only one other Mazinger nerd with me in the cinema I watched it in. So depressing.

Hey, at least you had that. Absolutely nobody in the room I was in knew anything about mecha.

[Helius]

Originally Posted by Hemisphere

That and rocket punch. There was, like, only one other Mazinger nerd with me in the cinema I watched it in. So depressing.

Kinda makes me go "huh?" as to how a robo arm with all its intricate parts can withstand such impacts.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by Helius

Kinda makes me go "huh?" as to how a robo arm with all its intricate parts can withstand such impacts.

Don't bring up the matter of giant robot limbs surviving impacts man. If we go down that road, we have to start seriously considering how Gypsy Danger avoids tearing its legs apart everytime it takes a step.


I mean. Think about it. Gpysy Danger lifts its feet how high when ever it takes a step? About 30-40 feet? Imagine if you took an Abrams tank and dropped it 30-40 feet a couple hundred times. How good of shape do you think it would be in? Not very! Especially when you consider that there's MUCH more weight involved in these impacts than with a tank.


That's not even going into how much Gypsy Danger should weigh realistically. 2,000 metric tons is impossibly light. If you took an average six foot human male who weighed about 170+ pounds and scaled him up to the size of a Jaeger, he'd weigh in excess of 6,000 metric tons. And THAT'S a being of flesh and bone. Not an armored battle machine.


From an engineering perspective, the idea that a Jaeger could have deployable swords/plasma cannons in its arms that it uses for fistacuffs is a pretty small leap compared to the idea of Jaegers in the first place.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

My past comment remains in effect; if the giant monsters can even exist, then by that measure so can giant robots. Indeed, Kaiju bodyparts have been harvested and used for their unique properties. The laws of physics applies to both sides. To build a giant robot in the Pacific Rim universe is just another form of reverse engineering. You know, like Mecha Godzilla.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

My past comment remains in effect; if the giant monsters can even exist, then by that measure so can giant robots. Indeed, Kaiju bodyparts have been harvested and used for their unique properties. The laws of physics applies to both sides. To build a giant robot in the Pacific Rim universe is just another form of reverse engineering. You know, like Mecha Godzilla.

That's really closer to Evangelion than Pacific Rim though!


Though the idea of using a Kaiju's skeletal system as raw material for a Jaeger's body would be amusing. Especially if you decided to make it explicitly clear that only Kaiju material was physically robust enough to be formed into something like a robot.

[Hemisphere]

They'd have to have some hardcore preservation methods though, because kaiju remains don't last for long.

[Helius]

Oops, can of worms accidentally opened.

But still, while hard science isn't by any means a main focus of this film, it's still difficult to suspend the disbelief when you're already predisposed to the mechanics of it. For instance a Chinook can lift no more than 10 tons while the average Jaeger weighs 2,000 tons. You'd be needing at least 200 helos just to carry a single Jaeger....man, the nerds that we are...