2007-02-15, 14:32 | Link #21 |
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It isn't surprising to start seeing more of Sasuke's true strength. Considering his goal (which right now is more important than Naruto's goal), he is going to need to be impossibly strong to defeat his brother who is arguably the 'ultimate' ninja in the series now with the 4th dead and the AL's powers unknown.
I am fairly curious as to how the series will go from here. The story needs to focus a bit on team Orochimaru whom for most parts were having appearances. It would be nice to see them joining the fight against Akatsuki although it would be for their own selfish reasons. Still think Kakazu got killed retarded though; but I guess there is no more use arguing about it as both he and possibly Hidan are gone for good.
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2007-02-15, 14:52 | Link #23 | |
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Anyway, we know the jutsu is currently half complete, so until they meet it has to finish - so add a few weeks for that. And, in addition to training for that, Kakashi might teach a few more stuff to Naruto, including, maybe one of the first Sharingan captured techniques from Yondaime. |
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2007-02-15, 15:01 | Link #25 |
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Oro is like Michael Douglas of the past (pre-Zeta Johns era). Unless he receives help, it is almost impossible for him to stop himself from doing what he was supposed to do (and, we know from the previous arc, Sasuke is more than ready for that).
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2007-02-15, 15:13 | Link #26 | |
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2007-02-15, 15:16 | Link #27 |
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-Well now, this is probably the very first chapter in which Naruto looked so depleted of energy that he could only muster a few words. While I certainly didn't mind this chapter at all it felt, to be blunt odd, especially Shikamaru's behaviour (that big toothy grin just doesn't fit him). Then again, not all chapters can be about blood, guts and glory.
-So Kurenai really was pregnant. Heh, way to drop the bomb on us Kishimoto. The King reference is about the future generation, rather than individual people. It makes sense though. After all, what do peole fight for most of the time? That's right, it is to assure that there is a tomorrow. -Now then, what will happen from this point forward I wonder?
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2007-02-15, 15:20 | Link #29 |
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Yondaime was alive after Sharingan was implanted on Kakashi. So, it is possible that the first technique Kakashi copied would be the technique that made Yondaime the Yellow Flash.
Considering the importance of that teleporting technique to Naruto's Rasengan Shuriken, and Naruto's highly advanced use of clones in reaching the opponent, and creating a diversion to plant that seal, that technique would be a really good match for Naruto. |
2007-02-15, 15:30 | Link #30 |
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Well, i think he can succeed only if Naruto saves him, which means Naruto goal is the way to achieve Sasuke's goal. It's just that Sasuke does not know and understand that. Or maybe I should say that Sasuke does not have a true goal in life now, he has become more like Orochimaru's tool, and his goal has become a part of Oro's goal, as we know Oro's goal is to destroy the whole akatsuki, while Sasuke's goal is just Itachi. But the main point is that Sasuke will not live to see the moment when Orochimaru kills Itachi using his body, being dead before achieving your goal is hardly achieving your goal.
Which most likely will never happen, so Sasuke's present goal will never be achieved. I'm sure that if Naruto somehow saves Sasuke than Sasuke's goal will be changed to the real ultimate goal: kill Itachi to save Naruto. |
2007-02-15, 15:33 | Link #31 |
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This chapter was a bit weak.
I'm disappointed in how easily Kakuzu and Hidan were killed. I know Naruto got his super awesome jutsu but for an elite ninja to be killed by such a simple trick is pathetic. I guess Naruto's generation had to step up and be ninja at some point but it was rather anti-climatic. Hidan's abilities were never revealed and he was an interesting character. Naruto surpassing Kakashi is very unconvincing. The only good part is the heart warming scene between Kurenai and Shikamaru. One thing I find odd is that Oro is still training Sasuke when Sasuke has accepted that the only way he can defeat his brother is to give up his body. So what is the point of trying to toughen him up? I hope we see better character development with the Akatsuki as while these two were cool their contribution to the story was subpar.
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2007-02-15, 15:49 | Link #33 |
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Naruto and Shika, more or less solo'd, a member Akastuki, both of them are no pushovers. Need i remind you that Itachi is also a member of said group. Yet all everyone can say is that Sasuke is still better than Naruto. So what if Sasuke beat a bunch of nobodies? I can kill 1 million ants (big black ones) but you would never say I was stronger than Naruto for that right (well and the fact that Naruto is fictional)?
Kind of odd if you ask me. Both Naruto and Shika were under no handicaps and their oppenents were very strong, whether they were equal to Itachi is beside the point, since the comparision is between Naruto+Shika and Sasuke. Sure Sasuke looked cool, that's what he was created for, to be Naruto's foil. I just don't understand how Sasuke shows up in one frame and everyone doubts the good guys' strength. |
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It is not only the jutsu, it is everything involving with the development of that jutsu, starting with effective use of Kyuubi chakra, mastering an elemental which would open the door to learn other ones, developing his body to overcome the limits required for that jutsu, achieving years of experience during the development of that jutsu. Repeating myself once again, it is not only the jutsu itself, but it is everything related to the jutsu. |
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I hope we see better character development with the Akatsuki as while these two were cool their contribution to the story was subpar.[/QUOTE] Quote:
I would like to know why when one character, like Shika or Sasuke does something everyone gives them due credit. But when Naruto comes around and does the same thing (sometimes better) people give doubt him? Is it because you expect more from the main character? Are you a hater? Last edited by Hunter; 2007-02-15 at 18:23. Reason: Don't double post |
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And, despite what I was referring to, it seems you still do not find it convincing. Well, the fact is he is, as Kakashi already said. He over-powered Kakuzu, destroyed two of his hearts and make the other one unstable in just one attack (that combined, strength, intelligence, speed, etc.). And, considering what he has acheived so far in addition to having at least double the non-Kyuubi based chakra capacity of Kakashi, for me it is convincing enough. Quote:
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2007-02-15, 17:59 | Link #39 |
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Can I post now? I was blocked a while ago (something with whitelisting domain)
--> OK So, I wanted to ask about this weeks illustration. It was done in 30 minutes as I didn't want to spend more time for it. Do you think it's ok if I deliver that kind of stuff and once in a while a good one? If you prefer, I can do fast pencil ones or no illustration at all if it's going to be crap like this week's ( I'm not impressed by it ^^' ) |
2007-02-15, 18:06 | Link #40 |
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Naruto does not surpass Kakashi. Naruto has an overwhelming ninjutsu, but he hardly can be compared to Kakashi who is more talented in taijutsu and genjutsu (as well as ninjutsu). Basically, if Naruto cannot land his jutsu against other members of the Akatsuki, he could be killed.
I am not saying that Naruto is weak, or that he has not grown. It is just that his growth was limited, in comparison to Saskue's, for example. Naruto has so far gained an overpowered jutsu and is a bit more crafty (and mature?) whereas, many would speculate, Saskue has greatly enhanced all of his skills. It was disappointing how Hidan, a potentially unique character, turned out to be such a failure. Same would go with Kakuzu, there was a lot of potential but they were killed off prematurely. They were sheep to the slaughter house to further emphasize Shikamaru and Naruto I suppose. |
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