2009-01-04, 13:44 | Link #1483 |
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Agnostic, here. There might be something out there, yes, but many religions don't rub with me right. Especially western ones, all that talk about being absolute sinner no matter what, and how Jesus died because we were all so ugly and malevolent; I simply don't agree. I believe that I am myself, and I simply follow what my heart and my mind tune to. Fortunately for me, I have a good set of morals, and I never read one page of the Bible. I guess my mother just raised me to be so.
I decided to cut a whole chunk of my original post out, as I kinda derailed for no reason. Carry on. :3 Last edited by Issac; 2009-01-05 at 12:32. |
2009-01-05, 21:36 | Link #1484 |
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That's not really "western [religions]", that's Christianity. I don't have anything against Christianity, but the idea that you should practically hate yourself because you've always been a sinner and always will be was always strange to me. I joined a Christian group as an undergraduate university student in an effort to better understand some of the core Christian beliefs, and that was probably the most frustrating view that I encountered. I met some of the absolute nicest people, and yet they'd cut themselves down due to the sinning aspect. Granted, those people do not represent the collective of Christian thought, but they were extremely devoted to their religion. Whereas your average Christian likely has nothing more to do with the religion than napping in church every Sunday, I felt that the views of my peers in that group were quite insightful as they were very diligent about studying and discussing the religion.
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You're either a catholic because you believe catholic claims to be true and you live according to its doctrine, or you're not catholic. Last edited by Xrayz0r; 2009-01-07 at 10:26. |
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2009-01-07, 10:57 | Link #1488 |
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I would consider myself as an atheist?
I have no religion However, I do have respect for other religions though, it's an interesting thing, and it's a very old thing (See Middle ages and beyond)
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2009-01-07, 17:37 | Link #1491 | ||
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2009-01-07, 18:02 | Link #1492 | |
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Of course, people can never be 100 percent sure of anything, but science is ultimately about how well a theory's predictions fit the data. If they don't, the idea is discarded and something else is tried until the conceptual framework matches real-life output. There is no such thing as complete certainty (such is more common in religions, which believe in the ability to have absolute truths), but as an ongoing process, science constantly strives to better align its theories with observed reality. In this way, science is, and has been, quite iconoclastic, since it goes where the evidence leads rather than kowtowing to accepted Authority, and any upstart can upend even the most respected of theories by presenting a model that better accounts for the facts. Now obviously, if the uniformitarian assumption happened to break down due to a supernatural entity rewriting local (or universal) reality, science would have to revisit its most basic tenets. But so far, it's worked pretty well. |
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2009-01-08, 09:39 | Link #1495 | ||
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2009-01-08, 12:56 | Link #1496 | |
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And note, that's a limit of science in general. A small leap of faith every rational being has to make. When it comes to particulars... Well, there is no human being on Earth who's done all the scientific experiments, acquired all the knowledge, done all the thinking to put the sum total of human scientific knowledge inside his own head. What does it mean? That at some points, he must take on faith that other scientists knew what they were doing. And at best, because that is the way science works, he does it all with the knowledge that what science says isn't absolute truth, but merely close enough (or not) - for now. So, yeah. Easy on the arrogance. Quote:
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2009-01-13, 14:07 | Link #1500 | |
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With that in mind, I use the term faith as defined by belief unfounded by evidence. Now, we already know that science is based on some basic assumptions. One, that if a pattern repeats itself it is safe to assume it will remain the same (hence a law), and that a natural law once formulated extends to everywhere else in the universe. Any respectable scientist is aware of this, it's pretty basic and I hope you didn't think you were the only one to ever figure this out when you entered this thread. It's blown this thing entirely out of proportion after I simply commented on a guy who thought religion and science are equal in terms of dependency of faith. They are obviously not, I dare you challenge that. On the religion topic, pretty much the same thing. You're not arguing my point, you're messing with definitions, and religion suddenly becomes a bunch of other stuff I didn't consider posting my thoughts. You were obviously aware of this. Kind of lame you feel like picking on words rather than ideas. I'll say, if tomorrow the dictionary doesn't have their number #1 definition of religion as this, and Christianity, I shall lay down my argument that being a christian simply because your parents are is pretty ridiculous. Last edited by Xrayz0r; 2009-01-13 at 14:17. |
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