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2004-07-18, 18:24 | Link #63 |
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I'm pretty happy in Britain. There's a certain amount of appeal to the notion of continental Europe, if I spoke another language, with their better funded public services and so forth, but I'm rather fond of TV and I think I'd miss it pretty badly, (Except for a few exceptions like anime, I believe that TV everywhere else really isn't worth watching), and the idea of compulsory ID is one I'd have a lot of difficulty accepting. The US I firmly intend to avoid, a lack of basic facilities like free near-universal healthcare is bad enough, but I don't like the look of the culture there, and the rampant corporatism is simply scary. Japan, for all its wonderful animation, also seems to have a fairly messed-up society from what I know of it. Scandinavia and places like Canada and Australia might be possible, I don't really know much about them.
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2004-07-18, 18:48 | Link #64 | |
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Amsterdam legal trades are prostitution, drugs and many other things that i dont dare to mention, but its only in certain areas of the red light district
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2004-07-19, 11:25 | Link #66 |
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Finland
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I live in Finland and this place seems like a good place to live in. We have a good social security, free school meals and all that, but also high taxes. I've been to Sweden a few times and from what I could tell it looks very similar to Finland and I'm quite surprised it (and Norway) ranked quite a bit above us.
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2004-07-19, 12:20 | Link #67 | |
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2004-07-19, 17:39 | Link #68 | |
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Unfortuanely, there are gonna be people out there that you can't reason with that are always gonna hate Americans and won't ever forgive them for our actions as a country. So how can they take their anger out on America? Simple, it's citizens. I love to travel, and I plan on visiting more of Europe, as well as Africa and the Middle East someday. If asked, I will proudly say I'm American if it comes up in my travels. If something bad were to ever happen to me intentionally because of my nationality, then at least I know I wouldn't be in the wrong. |
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2004-07-19, 17:41 | Link #69 | |
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2004-07-19, 17:52 | Link #70 |
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I dunno, I do agree you shouldn't be judge for the country you are living in. But again, for some people that lives in not so good conditions, the fact is that you're not gonna be hated for being american, you're gonna be killed if you fall on some extremist by bad luck. For them, the way you live peacefully and your freedom and all, it has a cost, and part of that cost is the way some people are living in the world. So no they won't hate you for who you are, but for how you are living. Yet I'm just theorizing, so I might be wrong all the way. It's not something I experienced.. I'm canadian.. and if someone is going to say he's canadian and he's not, he better behave well.
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2004-07-19, 18:24 | Link #71 |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Rest assured, my father is a well-behaved individual. He will uphold the bright image of the modern Canuk
I can agree though that maybe these people do have a valid reason to hate Americans if our prosperous way of living directly forces them to live in destitution, but what actions by the US government cause this type of scenario I wonder? |
2004-07-19, 18:24 | Link #72 |
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I think a lot of the arguments for blaming ordinary Americans for things rest on the belief that in a democracy, the people are responsible for the actions of government.
Rather misunderstands the degree to which democracy really happens of course, especially in corporatic America, and a trifle probabilistic, to say the least. But it's not completely mad. |
2004-07-19, 18:37 | Link #73 | |
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2004-07-19, 20:25 | Link #74 |
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There has been destructions of pharmaceutics development facility that was saving many lives, just because of a rumor of some biologic weapon development, I don't remember the fact, but if someone gives me 10$ I'll take the time and get my "Livre noir des États-Unis" (Black book of USA).
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2004-07-19, 21:01 | Link #75 | |
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But then again, these 'extremist' people are so messed up in the head you can't reason with them and they're motives will never change. But I agree with your theory that people think like this, and they have no sympathy from me at all. |
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2004-07-19, 21:23 | Link #76 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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Let's get something straight, they don't hate you for your lifestyle. They hate you for years of economic explotation, for political deciet, for destorying their industries, for forcing them into situations favorable to you, for literally raping their lands of resources with promises of aid that never really comes nor is ever enough, for interfering with their self government, for organizing military coups, for convincing them to do your country's dirty work then abondoning them when they needed you the most, for imposing economic sacntions that result in the deaths of millions and the list does go on and on. You might not be aware of it but America's imperialistic foreign polices in the last half century have done nothing but fuel anti-American sentiments throughout the third world and Middle East. Their point of view isn't so hard to understand. If I was in their situation, I too would probably hate anyone from a country that benefits from my country's exploitation. |
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2004-07-19, 22:55 | Link #77 | |
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It's too bad I can't tell them all I'm sorry for all the awful things we've done to them, and that I don't agree with alot of what my country has done to make their's suffer. Not like that would be enough though to be forgiven even though I'm being sincere about it. I'm indifferent to everyone until you start hating me for the wrong reasons. |
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2004-07-20, 03:20 | Link #78 | |
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The fact is, if enough Americans didn't want to profit from exploiting people in poor countries, they could get together and do something about it. But when most people go to the polls, they're not thinking about this sort of thing. All they're thinking about is things like how much it'll cost to drive their huge great big cars around. I don't know what sort of person you are personally, but the majority of Americans are choosing the course of action which approves the exploitation of these people on their behalf. And the line between that and participating in it personally is pretty thin. |
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