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I always assumed that past trauma is why Mikasa's expressions are so bland all the time, like she's suppressing her own emotions. Eren seems to be the only one that Mikasa actually gets emotional over, evidenced by her threatening to force-feed Eren in episode 2.
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2013-04-21, 18:58 | Link #1222 | |
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The question is if Mikasa thinks of herself as part of the family, why make the difference? Why not call Eren's parents "my father/mother" as well? It just seems to show that Mikasa is still somewhat detached from everyone, including Eren's family. |
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2013-04-21, 19:13 | Link #1223 | |
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2013-04-21, 19:27 | Link #1224 | |
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(All the more reason for people not to drop manga spoilers or even subtle hints. I understand the eagerness to share knowledge but, really, it damages the viewing experience for anime-only audiences. Please be considerate.) Agreed. Even without reference to the original material, that much can be inferred from Mikasa's behaviour. She's borderline psychotic, crazy enough to scare away neighbourhood bullies with a single glare. Eren's the only thing that's keeping her sane, hence her overriding concern for his well-being. |
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2013-04-21, 19:44 | Link #1225 | |
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2013-04-21, 20:34 | Link #1228 | |
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2013-04-21, 20:58 | Link #1229 |
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ive seen the 3 eps though havent seen the manga. will definetely look up on ht manga. the story is a bit sobering but dark enough to be high on my list to follow. it does seem to be as graphic as Berserk is. though such scenes are hard sometimes ie the giant eating the mother in front of him. its also sobering in the reality considering 250 000 were sent to retake land but only 100 survived.
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2013-04-21, 20:59 | Link #1230 | |
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Like Iron Maw, my first impression of that scene in the anime was that Eren had been traumatised by events. His emotions were understandably unstable, hence his outburst. As for why the scene was included, that's easy: the anime producers needed to pad out the material to fill the time. It would have been jarring to introduce the training camp in Ep2, only to end it halfway. Plus, there was a need to control the story's pacing. If you watch carefully, you'll see that Ep2 was gradually taking the tone from Ep1's emotional high, down to the depressing low of Ep2. You are meant to see the severe contrast between the lazy complacency of humanity in Ep1 and the pathetic helplessness of Ep2, as refugees begged for food even as many of them were sent to a meaningless death to recapture Wall Maria. The peaks and troughs of emotions are what gives you, the viewer, a sense of pacing and tension. You can't keep viewers on a constant high. You'll either run out of thrills or you'll wear out your audience, whichever comes first. So, that was why the scene was added. It was necessary from the perspective of the anime. One should never go into an adaptation expecting 100 per cent fidelity with the source material, because that is never possible. Different mediums require different approaches to storytelling. |
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2013-04-21, 21:00 | Link #1231 | |
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EDIT: TinyRedLeaf is probably closer to the truth here. Last edited by Iron Maw; 2013-04-21 at 21:51. |
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2013-04-21, 21:01 | Link #1232 |
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Thought this was another excellent episode, really this series keeps getting better and better for me.
Also really like how many female characters (who seem to be treated with respect as characters) are in the trainee camp. The last scene with Eren flying in the air was really well done. That's how you end an episode.
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2013-04-21, 21:14 | Link #1233 |
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You know what I just thought?
There is a way to defeat the Titans easily... Being so huge and naked and based on Human's design... They must have huge exposing "Achilles heel" LOL, aim for that and the Titan drops down than you can aim at them easily. Potato girl is funny... so, to use her "power" all you need is to make her starve than throw some bread or potato at the Titans and watch the Werewolf like battle... |
2013-04-21, 21:22 | Link #1235 | |
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Though, of course, I'm not sure whether this could have been the case or not for this show. Perhaps someone who's more informed on whether or not the author is involved in the anime production at some level could share some info with us |
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2013-04-21, 21:28 | Link #1236 | |
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Anyway her calling Eren's parents obaa-san/ojii-san is perfectly normal from an outsider's view (not sure how things go for western kids though). |
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2013-04-21, 21:32 | Link #1237 | |
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In other words nobody is bitching about that scene because "it isn't in the manga therefore it's wrong", but because they think it was a bad choice or it wasn't done well. i.e. they don't think it was necessary at all to show Eren insulting Armin, rather, simply wrong. And anyway it's not really bitching because pretty much everyone says it's a minor thing, just a bit off.
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2013-04-21, 21:36 | Link #1238 | |
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Let me use the example of a couple of collage buddies of mine. The four of us have been into anime for a long time but I'm the only one that actually does any manga reading while they mainly stick to anime. After episode 2 came out I recommended it to them and they watched both episodes in a row, they liked it of course but when I asked them what they thought about the MC (Eren) one of the said, and I quote "He seems like a little whiny bitch to me." and that they generally thought he was just a typical emotional shounen MC and that they didn't like him much. I was puzzled by this (since I never got that impression in the manga) and they pointed out that particular scene, saying he was overreacting with his outburst toward Armin. Yesterday they saw episode 3 and told me their opinion of Eren has improved but still hasn't changed much. I just hate to see people form a negative opinion of a character based on an anime only scene that breaks his character right at the start of the series. If people don't like Eren or any other character from his/her canon actions then I'm perfectly fine...but I'm not fine when that opinion is the result of badly handed filler. |
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2013-04-21, 21:53 | Link #1239 | |
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The purist approach to adaptation places an unreasonable limitation on creativity and innovation, in my opinion. There have been several movie adaptations of popular Jane Austen novels, for example, and hardly any of them are "pure" transfers from text to screen, line for line, scene for scene. Then, there are more radical interpretations, like the BBC's contemporary update to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes, starring Benedict Cumberbatch. It is absolutely faithful to source material? Hell no. But does it work? Hell yes.
But that's a meta-discussion for another day, another thread. For the record, I'm with creb: Quote:
But he does score points for effort, and for being quite cool on occasion. I'll grant him at least that much. |
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2013-04-21, 21:57 | Link #1240 |
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I like training episodes were nothing is given, but earned.
Eren's emotions are never lukewarm. He's either very resolute or very wimpy. It's better to have both than the latter. We have too many of those in other shows. In a weird way, Shingeki has this morbid humor. It gives out this funny blend of Hardcore Seinen action poses with some fail expressions that lead to laughs. I found it hilarious when I saw that guy's doom face when Mikasa was obediently listening to Eren about cutting her hair. What made it worst was he was rubbing some dude's afterwards. And Demon Sasha's bread grab. lol On a related note, I need to know the name of that song playing at the very end of this episode. I want that shot into my veins. Can anybody confirm if that was Steve Conte of GiTS fame?
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