2012-09-26, 13:26 | Link #761 | |
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Things have just gotten so outta hand with the right, and it all began with Bush Jr's first term, too. By the end of his second term, we could really see it, and then this great acceleration of it went from the last 2 months of 2008 to present day. And this "great acceleration" I speak of is really also the course the right has taken where they've gone into a steep decline (AKA gone very corrupt and batshit crazy). Is "RINO" an acronym?
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2012-09-26, 13:30 | Link #763 | |
Juanita/Kiteless
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Fine, they can call people "RINOs". You know what I call them? Extremists.
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2012-09-26, 17:29 | Link #765 |
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Its very sad to talk to people I know who have unconsciously moved into the "ultra-right extremist zone" from much more *sane* positions they had in the 80s or 90s. OTOH, a lot of my conservative friends who remember those times are choosing to vote Libertarian this year in the hopes of knocking the current "batshit crazies" who have hijacked the GOP off their little saddles.
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2012-09-26, 17:39 | Link #766 |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
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From what I am getting, the major objection that doesn't have to do with rights is to the welfare programs. The arguement remains the same as it was in the 1980 Republican platform, just that they seem to be even more fed up with the results of what I suppose is an extention of the Carter era programs (in style). The generational welfare system. Welfare for illegals. Welfare causing dependancy on the Government for more welfare due to the system not really being set to get people off welfare (I've encountered this with a friend who gets social security, but if he makes more than a certain amount, he loses it. There is no insentive to get off SS if he'd make less working a part-time job after all the taxes (sales tax is getting huge in California) and expenses to get to work (unless the tax breaks are suppose to make up for that if one can file a tax return and get back maybe a thousand or so dollars even if they didn't pay that much in income taxes because they are under the minimums). So he gets SS and works eBay and trades as much as possible to get enough for food and rent with some disposable income left. This is for someone without a high school education (I don't like to ask personal question, I just get what I get told over time).
The Republic or Republican leaning people I know get bent all out of shape about welfare programs because of things like that. They are worried about social issues in the "we like things as they are now...why change it?" tune. They seem very worried that the Democrats (or as they tend to call them, the Social Democrats) are going to start dismantling the Constitution. The 2012 Republican Platform even has a full on section about the Bill of Rights. They believe that American should be on top and stay on top of the international pecking order. The difference of opinion between them seems to be in foreign policy. Most I talk to are of the isolationist type that want to end globalization, bring back out forces to US soil, and basically let the world solve its own regional problems without us getting involved anymore. While they might respect Israel, they see them as being able to handle the local Arabs on their own without us. These tend to be Vietnam veterans or those of similar age or children of same. (mostly male, but some female). That or the "Big Stick" policy variant. Leave us alone and we will be generally quiet. Get on our nerves and we send in a Task Group to ease our nerves. Blow up our people or stuff, we send in the Marines and the Army. Touch our soil with threat of invasion...your cities will be glassed. We keep the biggest sticks for those that do us harm. Otherwise, Gunboat Diplomacy.
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2012-09-26, 18:44 | Link #767 |
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Wow so Jon Stewart yet again said exactly what I've been thinking last night, that Obama and Romney are the fortunate beneficiaries of getting to run against candidates that make them look remarkably good by comparison. He even used my Flowers for Algernon analogy for how Romney actually looks to be getting dumber and dumber with each passing week. You can probably find the video on the Comedy Central website in the U.S. For Canadian posters it's here
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2012-09-26, 19:08 | Link #768 |
books-eater youkai
Join Date: Dec 2007
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In Ohio, Romney says his "heart aches" for jobless
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88N13D20120926 Do he really think than someone will really belive him ? Obama mocks Romney for "newfound outrage" on China trade http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88P1LS20120926 Well, making a shitload of money by shipping US job to China kind of disqualified Romney about talk about that.
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2012-09-26, 19:15 | Link #769 |
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And, Scott Brown and his staff catch fire for their nasty little antics and catcalling about Elizabeth Warren's ancestry from the Chief of the Cherokee Nation. It doesn't seem to matter whether its local, state, or national, the GOP just seems to have become the political home for small-minded, petty, bullies who pretend to be politicians.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...gn?ft=1&f=1001
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2012-09-26, 23:50 | Link #770 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Though Jon Stewart has been skewering Romney hard for a while now, I'm actually more genuinely concerned that Obama really didn't take the opportunity to set up as many private meetings with other world leaders as possible. I guess it is a sign that Stewart is absolutely right that Obama is really the luckiest dude in the world given that I couldn't even consider his rival candidate worthy of such a scrutiny in the first place. :/ But if Romney is the second luckiest dude, then Ron Paul is probably the unluckiest. I'm not a Paulfag, but it says something that even Stewart didn't bother bringing up any stupidities on Paul's part while he "showcased" the rest of the pageantry. Also, lol King Abdullah. "Keep the networks." |
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2012-09-27, 00:34 | Link #771 |
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I don't think that meeting foreign leaders at the UN is as important as you might think. Obama already has pretty active dialogue with world leaders, he, and they, might think there isn't that much to talk about.
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2012-09-27, 08:37 | Link #774 |
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Yeah. I mean, sure it is unusual. But private meetings are not part of the official event. It is entirely possible he had met these leaders already or had nothing new to discuss. Don't forget, the other leaders have things to do too. You don't want to waste their time either.
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2012-09-27, 08:38 | Link #775 |
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I'll take king Abdulla's advise that "it's not that big of a deal as we are making it out to be"
That man is so calm and vanilla every time we see him on air, hard to believe he's a monarch of an Islamic state.
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2012-09-27, 14:08 | Link #779 | |
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I don't much like a "monarch" in a state with strong ties with any "religion", that's like double backwards for me. That stereotype being said, I like the king of Jordan. He's always a great figure to look up to whenever he's on air. Unlike... say, the monarch of Saudi, with the double-tongue of theirs.
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2012-09-27, 17:02 | Link #780 |
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Obama leads Romney 49-42 percent in latest Reuters/Ipsos survey
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88Q1JB20120927
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