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C.A. · 2009-03-02, 04:55

Wall Street Fight IV is the most amazing thing I've seen today lol

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2009-03-03, 14:48

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Originally Posted by Tornix

Oh, it's not just you. Almost every match I've played is like that, too. I find it fun every now and then to not chase them and to jump over their fireballs. Eventually they will get fed up and come to me where I'll have easy pickings.

You know what's also another surprisingly good tactic? Taunting your opponent when they are staying back. It's hilarious to see them coming at you all hastily with a rage as if they've taken your taunt really personally.

But yeah, the key trick to beating turtlers is that you have to have patience and good zoning. If you begin to play recklessly and very offensively against them, then you are just taking their bait. Just relax, and when you finally get in on them, that is when you can severely punish them. My main right now is E. Honda and I've encountered plenty of shoto scrubs that do nothing but stay back all day. But once I've gotten in on them, I force them into the corner and do not let them escape. I then proceed to beat them down relentlessly with cross-ups, anti airs, and good aerial tactics to keep them from jumping over me and moving to the opposite corner. The matches are over fairly quickly when that happens and I emerge the victor.

SonOfHeaven · 2009-03-03, 20:01

After using Sakura in some ranked matches(She's good but I'm more effective with Cammy). I'm sticking to Cammy as my main. Finally figured out I can hit Blanka after I block that one move when he spins toward you with spiral arrow. Cannon strike=mix-up game=win. Been confusing many people with it. Still around 2800 BPs, been stuck between 2700 and 2800 BPs today. Most the matches I lose, are ones that I should be winning.

Also beware of Gen users with that overhead jump attack. It can lead to a 3 hit combo to his super to his ultra. If you can stop that overhead for most the match, you have a high chance of winning.

karasuma · 2009-03-03, 22:19

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Originally Posted by C.A.

Wall Street Fight IV is the most amazing thing I've seen today lol

Glad you like it...

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2009-03-04, 13:45

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Originally Posted by SonOfHeaven

Also beware of Gen users with that overhead jump attack. It can lead to a 3 hit combo to his super to his ultra. If you can stop that overhead for most the match, you have a high chance of winning.

Gen seems to be quite crappy so far in this game, so I wouldn't worry too much about him. Pretty much all of his attacks have low priority, a lot of his moves are not safe on block, and he doesn't do good damage either.

Tornix · 2009-03-04, 14:20

I watched my brother play against a pretty good Gen the other night. The guy gave his Chun a good work out. He still has a great cross up at least.

I had a great set of matches last night against a Dahlsim/Ryu/Chun player, N Dru. One negative was that he jumped too much, but still a good player (especially with sim). Even mentioned that I was the best Viper player he's faced.

SonOfHeaven · 2009-03-04, 23:06

I had a bad day today. I went from 2700 Bps to 3000 BPs then all the way down to 2400 Bps. This is because I started to use Akuma after doing all of his trials. It was fun though using raging demon on people. Made my way back to 2700 Bps by using Cammy again. For some reason earlier today, I couldn't do my cannon spike when someone jump toward me. It was strange.

kk2extreme · 2009-03-05, 17:22

i cant win a single ranked match

, the ps3 controller is tough to pull off moves, especially with the controls for someone like vega and bison

JubeiYamazaki · 2009-03-05, 21:17

Fun game, I like it. Dunno if I'm gonna devote time to it, its cool you can still kara-throw like in 3S, and Akuma looks much better in this then previous installments, ST double air hadou trap seems to be amazingly effective in this.

Ken is mid-tier which is surprising, and Ryu is top. All the stuff that made Ken top in 3S, Ryu has and all the stuff that made Ryu mid Ken has now, funny stuff. Freaky Friday in a fighting game.

Abel is cool, fun and nice. Gief is too scrub friendly, sim is nice.

Uhm... Daigo needs to stop playing ST Ryu and start playing SFIV along with everyone else.

That is all I guess.

Tornix · 2009-03-05, 23:46

Daigo does play SFIV and he uses Ryu. There's matches on YouTube I'm sure.

SonOfHeaven · 2009-03-06, 00:14

Doesn't Daigo have the most BPs in Japan for SFIV? I heard that somewhere.

JubeiYamazaki · 2009-03-06, 00:35

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Originally Posted by Tornix

Daigo does play SFIV and he uses Ryu. There's matches on YouTube I'm sure.

I guess I should say Daigo needs to stop playing Ryu like ST Ryu and start playing Ryu like SFIV Ryu.

And ya as far as I know Daigo still has the most BP.

Demongod86 · 2009-03-06, 00:37

I wish Daigo could play Ryu like he played his Sol way back when.

His Sol >> any of his Ryus.

Westlo · 2009-03-06, 05:53

Why should Daigo change his Ryu style when he's the best Ryu in Japan and arguably the best player who has the most battlepoints. Imagine if Daigo was playing Sagat ffs...

2H-Dragon · 2009-03-06, 09:22

I played this at my friend to check out if it was worth buying. I ended up loaning Street fighter anniversary for the ps2(for street fighter 3rd strike) from my friend. I like the SFIII(3rdstrike)/SFAIII specials more. :| It also seems as far as 2d fighters go I like them in 2d graphics(I found this out after playing SF4). Oh well there's always King of fighters XII coming up. I'm not that amped for blazblue since the characters are too generic for my taste, but the gameplay might turn out great.

karasuma · 2009-03-06, 22:02

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Originally Posted by kk2extreme

i cant win a single ranked match

, the ps3 controller is tough to pull off moves, especially with the controls for someone like vega and bison

You really need a stick and they are all sold out at this moment.

Westlo · 2009-03-07, 11:49

Coming from someone who nearly smashed his ds3 in the first ten minutes of playing SF IV on ps3... (because I was so used to playing this at arcades) you don't need a stick unless you're using advanced moves like kara throwing, focus dash cancel attack etc, a stick just makes things easier and quicker as well as opening up more options, it's not god mode and it won't turn you into Daigo.

That being said I feel like I can play at least 15-20% better with a stick over a ds3. I can't kara throw period on a ds3 (and since I play Ken who has an amazing Kara throw this really annoys me) whereas I can kara throw at will in the arcades, using your thumb for face buttons and pressing crappy and awkward triggers sucks compared to having an entire hand over 6 buttons.... the way I have to set up my ds3 means I fuck up my taunt sometimes too

And I just want to add that learning C Viper on a ds3 is painful since to cancel her moves you need to press 2 punches right after and it's just so much easier at arcades/using a stick.

karasuma · 2009-03-07, 12:59

I also home my skill at arcades. The whole point of street fighter being fun is the ability to pull off combos. If the stick allow you to do that a lot better. That's where the added value at....

Shinndou · 2009-03-07, 19:33

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Originally Posted by Westlo

Coming from someone who nearly smashed his ds3 in the first ten minutes of playing SF IV on ps3... (because I was so used to playing this at arcades) you don't need a stick unless you're using advanced moves like kara throwing, focus dash cancel attack etc, a stick just makes things easier and quicker as well as opening up more options, it's not god mode and it won't turn you into Daigo.

That being said I feel like I can play at least 15-20% better with a stick over a ds3. I can't kara throw period on a ds3 (and since I play Ken who has an amazing Kara throw this really annoys me) whereas I can kara throw at will in the arcades, using your thumb for face buttons and pressing crappy and awkward triggers sucks compared to having an entire hand over 6 buttons.... the way I have to set up my ds3 means I fuck up my taunt sometimes too

And I just want to add that learning C Viper on a ds3 is painful since to cancel her moves you need to press 2 punches right after and it's just so much easier at arcades/using a stick.

Sadly there's barely any arcade here anymore (only a few good ones left in Italy, but the arcade scene has been pretty much dead since a long time), so I already got myself a stick for PS3 time ago (the VSHG, sweet stick by the way). I agree that certain characters and certain feats can only be pulled off efficiently on a stick though. Some people say it's just a matter of preference, but as you said there are characters that are not exactly pad-friendly. C. Viper is one of them, but I'd also add charge characters as well as I think they are far more comfortable to use with a stick.

jedinat · 2009-03-08, 04:33

I don't understand why the button illustrations/descriptions for the moves are so, so obtuse. And I cannot link a freaking medium punch to a hakuden for the life of me (managed to do it twice but have no idea how), let alone some actual combos. It's a frustrating game, but I do like it (got it a couple days ago). Where is the step-by-step tutorial showing you exactly how and when/what to press, and the distances you need to be away from the character, etc.?! It seems half the game is playing "discover the game mechanic," which was probably fun 20 years ago, but kind of questionable in a modern game.

I'm thinking that much of the "enjoyment" is derived from some sort-of catharsis that occurs every time you break through the invisible walls the game constantly sets up before you. Even on medium that bastard Seth's death sent me into an almost violent relief. This game is frustrating but it is also the first fighting game that genuinely makes me want to move beyond the button-mashing stage.

2009-03-02, 04:55	Link #301
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2009-03-03, 20:01	Link #303
SonOfHeaven Metal Gear!? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tampa	After using Sakura in some ranked matches(She's good but I'm more effective with Cammy). I'm sticking to Cammy as my main. Finally figured out I can hit Blanka after I block that one move when he spins toward you with spiral arrow. Cannon strike=mix-up game=win. Been confusing many people with it. Still around 2800 BPs, been stuck between 2700 and 2800 BPs today. Most the matches I lose, are ones that I should be winning. Also beware of Gen users with that overhead jump attack. It can lead to a 3 hit combo to his super to his ultra. If you can stop that overhead for most the match, you have a high chance of winning. __________________

2009-03-04, 14:20	Link #306
Tornix The Evil Twin Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East Bay, S.F. Age: 41	I watched my brother play against a pretty good Gen the other night. The guy gave his Chun a good work out. He still has a great cross up at least. I had a great set of matches last night against a Dahlsim/Ryu/Chun player, N Dru. One negative was that he jumped too much, but still a good player (especially with sim). Even mentioned that I was the best Viper player he's faced. __________________ X-Box Live: Tornix SRK, PSN: TornixSRK, GGPO: Tornix SRK

2009-03-04, 23:06	Link #307
SonOfHeaven Metal Gear!? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tampa	I had a bad day today. I went from 2700 Bps to 3000 BPs then all the way down to 2400 Bps. This is because I started to use Akuma after doing all of his trials. It was fun though using raging demon on people. Made my way back to 2700 Bps by using Cammy again. For some reason earlier today, I couldn't do my cannon spike when someone jump toward me. It was strange. __________________

2009-03-05, 23:46	Link #310
Tornix The Evil Twin Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East Bay, S.F. Age: 41	Daigo does play SFIV and he uses Ryu. There's matches on YouTube I'm sure. __________________ X-Box Live: Tornix SRK, PSN: TornixSRK, GGPO: Tornix SRK

2009-03-05, 17:22	Link #308
kk2extreme Your wife is hot... Join Date: May 2008 Location: At your house fixing A/C	i cant win a single ranked match , the ps3 controller is tough to pull off moves, especially with the controls for someone like vega and bison

2009-03-05, 21:17	Link #309
JubeiYamazaki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003	Fun game, I like it. Dunno if I'm gonna devote time to it, its cool you can still kara-throw like in 3S, and Akuma looks much better in this then previous installments, ST double air hadou trap seems to be amazingly effective in this. Ken is mid-tier which is surprising, and Ryu is top. All the stuff that made Ken top in 3S, Ryu has and all the stuff that made Ryu mid Ken has now, funny stuff. Freaky Friday in a fighting game. Abel is cool, fun and nice. Gief is too scrub friendly, sim is nice. Uhm... Daigo needs to stop playing ST Ryu and start playing SFIV along with everyone else. That is all I guess.

2009-03-06, 00:14	Link #311
SonOfHeaven Metal Gear!? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tampa	Doesn't Daigo have the most BPs in Japan for SFIV? I heard that somewhere. __________________

2009-03-06, 00:37	Link #313
Demongod86 Gundam Boobs and Boom FTW Join Date: Dec 2005	I wish Daigo could play Ryu like he played his Sol way back when. His Sol >> any of his Ryus.

2009-03-06, 05:53	Link #314
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	Why should Daigo change his Ryu style when he's the best Ryu in Japan and arguably the best player who has the most battlepoints. Imagine if Daigo was playing Sagat ffs...

2009-03-06, 09:22	Link #315
2H-Dragon Silent Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Netherlands Age: 38	I played this at my friend to check out if it was worth buying. I ended up loaning Street fighter anniversary for the ps2(for street fighter 3rd strike) from my friend. I like the SFIII(3rdstrike)/SFAIII specials more. :\| It also seems as far as 2d fighters go I like them in 2d graphics(I found this out after playing SF4). Oh well there's always King of fighters XII coming up. I'm not that amped for blazblue since the characters are too generic for my taste, but the gameplay might turn out great.

2009-03-07, 11:49	Link #317
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	Coming from someone who nearly smashed his ds3 in the first ten minutes of playing SF IV on ps3... (because I was so used to playing this at arcades) you don't need a stick unless you're using advanced moves like kara throwing, focus dash cancel attack etc, a stick just makes things easier and quicker as well as opening up more options, it's not god mode and it won't turn you into Daigo. That being said I feel like I can play at least 15-20% better with a stick over a ds3. I can't kara throw period on a ds3 (and since I play Ken who has an amazing Kara throw this really annoys me) whereas I can kara throw at will in the arcades, using your thumb for face buttons and pressing crappy and awkward triggers sucks compared to having an entire hand over 6 buttons.... the way I have to set up my ds3 means I fuck up my taunt sometimes too And I just want to add that learning C Viper on a ds3 is painful since to cancel her moves you need to press 2 punches right after and it's just so much easier at arcades/using a stick.

2009-03-07, 12:59	Link #318
karasuma Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	I also home my skill at arcades. The whole point of street fighter being fun is the ability to pull off combos. If the stick allow you to do that a lot better. That's where the added value at....

2009-03-08, 04:33	Link #320
jedinat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 38	I don't understand why the button illustrations/descriptions for the moves are so, so obtuse. And I cannot link a freaking medium punch to a hakuden for the life of me (managed to do it twice but have no idea how), let alone some actual combos. It's a frustrating game, but I do like it (got it a couple days ago). Where is the step-by-step tutorial showing you exactly how and when/what to press, and the distances you need to be away from the character, etc.?! It seems half the game is playing "discover the game mechanic," which was probably fun 20 years ago, but kind of questionable in a modern game. I'm thinking that much of the "enjoyment" is derived from some sort-of catharsis that occurs every time you break through the invisible walls the game constantly sets up before you. Even on medium that bastard Seth's death sent me into an almost violent relief. This game is frustrating but it is also the first fighting game that genuinely makes me want to move beyond the button-mashing stage.