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View Poll Results: Steins;Gate - Episode 24 (END) Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 123 | 57.75% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 53 | 24.88% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 21 | 9.86% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 3.76% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 2.35% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.47% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.47% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.47% | |
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2011-09-14, 13:40 | Link #121 |
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So let's talk Steins;Gate and visual novel adaptations for a bit.
So when I came into this show I wasn't really sure what to expect, but I quickly found myself taken a back by how quickly these characters were growing on me, how even the pace was, how stable the production values were, and how much of a thriller the plot turned out to be in the second half. It may come as no surprise, but typically I'm not a fan of the visual novel adaptation scene in the slightest. For the most part I find the average one chock full of bland characters, inconsistant production values, bland romantic love triangles and a second half that's typically more emotional manipulation than intriguing and high stakes. Steins;Gate offered me something different, it offered me a visual novel adaptation that I could actually see myself recommending to some of my friends. I don't think that's happened since the Higurashi adaptations, and we all sadly know how those have ended up as of late. They're no match for this one on the production value side or arguably even the pacing and writing side, so I have to say....Steins;Gate is easily the best visual novel adaptation I've ever seen hands down. I think that counts for a lot more in the long run than any rating I could ever possibly assign it. I mentioned to someone yesterday that I kind of view Steins;Gate the same way I do Madoka Magica, but now that I think of it that might be an inappropriate comparison. The thing is, I already kind of liked the magical girl genre going in so already there was a hook for me, but for Steins;Gate it had to do it all from the ground up. I think it helps if you have some source material other than a dating sim, but I also think to put too much emphasis on that sort of thing cheapens what White Fox accomplished here with Steins;Gate. They've justified the right for the visual novel adaptation to persist into whatever era of anime is coming, and that is by no means an easy feat considering where I started with this genre at the beginning of the year. |
2011-09-14, 14:26 | Link #123 | |
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2011-09-14, 15:19 | Link #124 | |
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But what I really mean, the whole scene feels forced and underdeveloped. A villain is meeting his daughter who happens to offer him a paper on her time travel theory. Good stuff, says he, having turned a couple pages, and announces that he is going to steal it. Then some guy shows up. Oh, I see, says the villain, you people conspired against me. And he pulls out what? A pocket knife. Why? To kill everyone, indeed. Why doesn't he quietly run away to Russia, nobody could stop him anyway... |
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2011-09-14, 15:51 | Link #125 |
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He wasn't planning to kill Kurisu. He did it in a moment of anger when he thought Okabe and Kurisu were conspiring against him. So it wasn't like he woke up one day and was like "Hmm, I think I'll shoot my daughter and random people lol", he just happened to have a knife on him.
Him having anything else, would be the more asinine plot twist, me thinks.
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2011-09-14, 15:53 | Link #126 | |
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Pent-up hatred for his daughter + plus the delusion that Okabe and Kurisu had been planning to humiliate him = VIOLENT RAGE
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2011-09-14, 16:22 | Link #127 |
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Moreover that hatred just did not come out of nowhere. Kurisu had told Okarin well about it when she opened up to him in a previous episode (Okabe joked about her being struck by thunder in the plains of Arkansas and Kurisu told him to shut it and listen).
When you think of episode 1 and that monologue of hers in that one episode where she told Okabe about her dad, it is easy to think that Makise being at Nakabashi's conference before that very first d-mail = daughter visiting dad in hope to get his approval. Moreover, it makes sense that perhaps Kurisu took on her mother's name, if that name is Makise, because father distanced from Kurisu's family. |
2011-09-14, 16:58 | Link #129 | |
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But Suzuha shouldn't have vanished. That would not happen inside a time machine.
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2011-09-14, 21:57 | Link #131 | |
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Because the Steins Gate line prevents WW3 and the SERN Dystopia from happening, Suzuha never had to travel back into the past in the first place, hence why she disappeared. Doesn't mean she doesn't exist though.
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2011-09-15, 00:26 | Link #132 | ||
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2011-09-15, 02:05 | Link #134 | |
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What happened in that time machine scene in episode 24 was that the world started to restructure to enter Steins;Gate. Because Steins;Gate has an uncertain future, Suzuha may or may not be borned, unless Okarin in the Steins;Gate world line observes and confirms Suzuha's existance 7 years later, Suzuha should not appear in year 2010 Steins;Gate world line. It's just like Schrodinger's cat experiment, just that now Suzuha is the cat in this situation. |
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2011-09-15, 02:57 | Link #135 | |
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Steins;Gate has set another benchmark for the VN adaptation, let's see if there's going to be another series that will challenge it.
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2011-09-15, 04:16 | Link #136 | ||
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Okarin doesn't need to remake the time machine because he's in a different worldline now. It's the same thing with the D-mail: you receive it even if you never sent it in the current worldline. Their version of time travel allows an effect without a cause.
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2011-09-15, 06:18 | Link #137 | |
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The sane and logical thing is to actually have one and only one copy which you never leave it out of sight.
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2011-09-15, 06:28 | Link #138 | |
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2011-09-15, 09:45 | Link #139 | |
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