2012-08-02, 12:51 | Link #541 |
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FWIW as much as this OVA sucks, it's partly the producers' fault: I think the OVAs are not trying to be adaptations, per se, but rather a sort of alternate Rurouni Kenshin for people who want a darker&edgier/"more realistic" version. Which is why even the first OVA series felt disconnected from the manga/TV series, the second OVA series had basically nothing to do with it, and this third one might as well be a different show, too. It's more "inspired by Watsuki Nobuhiro's Rurouni Kenshin" instead of an adaptation... which I wouldn't normally mind, except URGH, what the hell are you doing to the characters I love, never mind the story?! ;__; )
The mess that is the actual writing in this OVA is, of course, an entirely different problem... (*cough*Okada*cough*) I still can't get over the sex scene. Ouch! (I can't believe a woman wrote that. ) |
2012-08-02, 13:43 | Link #542 |
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I'm still too hungry to look forward eating the Jinchu adaptation, what a shame
And like many people said, the OVA does not look like Kenshin at all, it looks more like a dark and edgy standalone anime inspired by the Kyoto arc.
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2012-08-02, 14:38 | Link #543 |
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There are times I'm asking myself how and why people adapt stories like that WITHOUT consulting the author himself, especially when the subject material has been covered before. I know it's difficult to cover everything into 45-minute episodes, but not to the point of disconnecting from the original tone.
About the sex scene... that was probably the only positive (for me at least) when you know Yumi is involved here. Naughty me! Last edited by KiraYamatoFan; 2012-08-02 at 16:29. Reason: missed a word |
2012-08-02, 15:01 | Link #544 | |
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See, about the sex scene, if you think about how insanely hot (I mean, literally ) Shishio's body is, it's just.... owww. And as an example of the absolutely "genius" writing, we see Shishio fry Usui just after the sex scene. |
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2012-08-02, 16:27 | Link #545 |
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The sex scene was pretty bad, but I think Shishio's line to Kenshin about "The hot springs making women open their legs more" or whatever might have been even worse. Why would he talk about such things in a conference with his greatest rival? It's just stupid. Okada had no grasp whatsoever on any of the characters. Like having Misao be the one to claim Kenshin and Sojiro's bout was a tie. Just... no. Every single person was out of character, it was Seisouhen/Reflections all over again.
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2012-08-02, 16:34 | Link #546 | |
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But from the very second Usui comes in, it comes back into the negative bit of the show. |
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2012-08-02, 16:50 | Link #547 | |
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I can understand the “disconnected” feeling to the TV series though, since we got a whole new characters and Kenshin here is a different person from someone we knew from the series.
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2012-08-02, 18:27 | Link #548 | |
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Sure, Tsuiokuhen is less "typical shounen" than the manga or the series, but it also sacrifices the details that make the whole thing work as far as I'm concerned, and ultimately turn it into a standalone story. I suppose whether it works or not depends on what one is looking for in a story - me, I'm character centric so I focus more on these things. Other people are more into mood or story, etc. |
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2012-08-02, 18:45 | Link #549 | ||
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I can see why they did what they did with Kenshin and in some ways it works, and I can see why they did what they did with Tomoe but I think she suffers for it a bit in character because she ends up coming off like an ice sculpture rather than a person. Quote:
But yes, more seriously, I don't attribute all of this to Okada (who is... probably not the best suited for this) as this also DEEN, and they are notorious for bad, thoughtless, or just plain stupid decisions and butcherings of franchises. Still, the writing was quite erratic (almost non-sequitur at times), and there's only one person to blame for that.
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2012-08-02, 23:15 | Link #550 |
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Ah, that statement is true for me . Back then when I was about to watch Tsuiokuhen, I was expecting to see a dark “Battousai” Himura and also a grim kinda story too (I’ve already finished the manga at the time). After watching it, my mind was blown away. The OVA met my expectation for a dark story almost perfectly, and I’m glad to see a colder Kenshin from his “battousai” period. I have no problem with the manga, but the OVA version “clicks” more with me.
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2013-05-31, 07:29 | Link #554 |
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No one is more weary at having my emotions toyed with than me, and thus more reluctant to post this here:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...end-on-tuesday It's probably related to the second live-action movie, so I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm not getting my hopes up...
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2013-06-05, 04:09 | Link #558 |
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I would deliriously accept a Jinchou adaptation under any circumstances, but I fear it would be DEEN and Furahashi again, and frankly I've lost confidence in him as a director. I think the first two seasons were an accident - I simply don't think he likes RK the way Watsuki wrote it. As for Okada, I'd be OK with her as she tends to do decently with adaptations of finished product.
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2013-06-07, 12:48 | Link #559 |
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If the same bunch does the Jinchuu arc they'll probably want to follow their own continuity, that is, the OVA continuity. And remember how they dealt with the Jinchuu arc in Seisouhen. -_-) I'd been also hoping to see the Jinchuu arc animated one day, but if I had to choose between the OVA treatment or nothing...
I don't quite understand what Furahashi's (or whoever told him to make the OVAs the way he does) problem is with the tone and message of the manga. I can sort of understand that they want to do a more "mature" Kenshin, never mind that this was one of the most mature manga that ever ran in WSJ. But why the hell do they think the way to achieve this is to excise all positivity about it... Last edited by kuromitsu; 2013-06-07 at 13:00. |
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