D.C. II S.S. ~Da Capo II Second Season~

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

Spoiler:

Even though I didn't feel the "rushed pace" that Relentless was feeling, I did find it odd that Yume didn't make a whole episode about Yoshiyuki missing her birthday. Normally she would have been ignoring him or something but they made up pretty quickly, but then finding out from Relentless that they managed to do Yoshiyuki a big favor and saved him all the trouble

[...]

I guess Jun couldn't have stopped her even if he wanted, she has already made up her mind and there was no changing it. So by saving Yoshiyuki, she sacrificed herself to the demon tree.

There are still some mysterious left to be solved like;

Why she cut her hair and why the tree revived in the first place (being the main one for me imo).

Spoiler for Episode 8:

Well, it wasn't really rushed in terms of pacing. The pacing of the episode was totally fine, actually. What made it feel rushed to me was because they left a lot of unanswered questions like the ones you outlined. Some of those questions could, in theory, have been answered already, but I'm wondering if they're going to be cut for time. If so, then I will have a lot of "fill in the gaps" to do once the show is over. Then again, it also occurs to me that leaving some gaps may be part of their plan, since they do want people to buy the game. And there are still some major gaps left after the first season that I wonder if they'll come back to (a big one involves Nanaka, for example). They might still come back and answer all those questions, or they may not. That's what I'm wondering about.

So basically, yeah -- not rushed pacing, but abridged content, really. If they come back to it, great. If not, I'll have some 'splainin' to do.

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

And I know this question probably has been asked before but I forgot...where is Nemu? O.o

Simply, they haven't said. You didn't miss anything.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Spoiler for ep8:

Great episode. I thought Tamura Yukari was outstanding. She and the animation really got Sakura's feelings across.

And I don't know the story background very well, but things made sense to me. Cutting your hair is like a ceremony of becoming a nun. It seemed appropriate before a religious ceremony.

[Sorrow-K]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

And I know this question probably has been asked before but I forgot...where is Nemu? O.o

Dead, I hope.

...Errr, I mean, Nemu is a fantastic character, and I can't understand why anyone would have anything less than complete respect for her.

[DanielSong39]

Nemu's probably dead; she was sickly from the start and it's not surprising that she wouldn't live very long.

[qtipbrit]

Originally Posted by Sorrow-K

Dead, I hope.

If she is, it would be 50 years too late.

Originally Posted by Sorrow-K

...Errr, I mean, Nemu is a fantastic character, and I can't understand why anyone would have anything less than complete respect for her.

Especially when she's not compared to someone like Kotori.

Originally Posted by DanielSong39

Nemu's probably dead; she was sickly from the start and it's not surprising that she wouldn't live very long.

She was sickly?
I didn't quite get that the first two seasons.

I am personally finding this season to be better than the last, though I wish Anzu's arc didn't comprise of one and a half episodes.
Of course, I didn't find Miharu 2's personality very appealing, though it gave her a lot of room for development.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Spoiler for Episode 8:

Well, it wasn't really rushed in terms of pacing. The pacing of the episode was totally fine, actually. What made it feel rushed to me was because they left a lot of unanswered questions like the ones you outlined. Some of those questions could, in theory, have been answered already, but I'm wondering if they're going to be cut for time. If so, then I will have a lot of "fill in the gaps" to do once the show is over. Then again, it also occurs to me that leaving some gaps may be part of their plan, since they do want people to buy the game. And there are still some major gaps left after the first season that I wonder if they'll come back to (a big one involves Nanaka, for example). They might still come back and answer all those questions, or they may not. That's what I'm wondering about.

So basically, yeah -- not rushed pacing, but abridged content, really. If they come back to it, great. If not, I'll have some 'splainin' to do.

Spoiler:

Dam, I think I picked a bad choice of word.

I know what you mean as the pacing wasn't rushed as in RUSHED, but because of how they went through the content so fast leaving unexplained events like how Yume didn't make a big fuss of that incident.

Simply, they haven't said. You didn't miss anything.

Ah so...

But isn't he a bit Rooneryyy...

Originally Posted by Sorrow-K

Dead, I hope.

...Errr, I mean, Nemu is a fantastic character, and I can't understand why anyone would have anything less than complete respect for her.

Hahaha...

have to love the innocent emoticon :3

Originally Posted by DanielSong39

Nemu's probably dead; she was sickly from the start and it's not surprising that she wouldn't live very long.

I blame the tree actually...Sakura's subconscious also ^^

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by qtipbrit92

She was sickly?
I didn't quite get that the first two seasons.

Yes, she was sickly, though in the window that we saw her in the anime it may have seemed sort of unclear how much of that was caused by the sakura tree. It's one of the reasons, though, why Junichi would check her temperature every morning (using that "infamous" method), and was referred to when he she fainted at school and he carried her back home "piggy-back". Also probably one of the reasons why she studied to become a nurse; she had a lot of experience in hospitals. Anyway, yeah -- it may not have been as obvious as it could have been in the anime, but Nemu had a weak body. So if she did pass away, it wouldn't surprise me.

Actually, now that I think about it, Nemu being weak and sickly was precisely what was intended to compliment/cancel out her legendary "black" side. Her sort of tough/distant/possessive attitude was an effort to mask her weakness/vulnerability/frailty. I guess she was sort of an "early model tsundere"? But anime watchers so hated her black side that perhaps the anime didn't do a good enough job of balancing out her personality. In the early days of the game, Nemu was by far the more popular character (and remains quite popular with game fans).

Originally Posted by qtipbrit92

I am personally finding this season to be better than the last, though I wish Anzu's arc didn't comprise of one and a half episodes.

Well, it's not as if the show's over quite yet!

[KBTKaiser]

Hmm...to explain the nemu game problem or not to explain...

*Keeps mouth shut unless relentless gives the okay for a spoiler set*

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

Hmm...to explain the nemu game problem or not to explain...

*Keeps mouth shut unless relentless gives the okay for a spoiler set*

If it's spoilers from the original D.C. timeframe, I don't think it's a problem (source material comparisons to past events are allowed behind clearly-marked spoiler tags), but I wonder if it's better to post it in the original D.C. thread instead? I'd like to have my memory refreshed as well, because it's been a long while since I played D.C.P.C. or watched the original anime...

[nikorai]

Just watched episode 8
relentlessflame

Spoiler:

When i saw the little Yoshiyuki i instantly understood what the episode is about. She didn't have to explain in detail.
By the way what's the point of getting hair cut. If it's personal it's ok. But say, Aisia would never do such a thing and she's no worse a magician.
So where can i read game spoilers about Sakura?
At the time i read the summaries there were none for Sakura's path.

[Kristen]

So, episode 8 was pretty dark... Sakura devoting the rest of her life to become a filter of bad wishes, what an interesting concept. But, it's always been interesting to see her in later seasons. It's her mask over the rest of her. Like, she'll act happy and social, but underneath her is a really emotionally scarred girl from the events of season 1.
And I guess she's always wanted short hair, but was worried that she'd hate herself in the mirror the next morning or something. XD

I have no idea where they'll go from here with 5 episodes left. There may be some plot twist in the game or something I don't know of... Because that felt like a very "finale"-esque sort of an episode.

[DragoonKain3]

And here ends what I know of spoilers. Good thing as well, since I dunno the ending so I won't be bored doing the guess work. So yeah, while it's true that this episode had sort of an ending feel to it, there's still the 'winner' to be decided lol.

An interesting thought. From what I read before, Sakura did use a wish for Yoshiyuki, and that's all what I know of game spoilers. Now, the question is, how did she use the wish? I hazard a guess that she wished for the child she never had with Junichi (would kind of explain how Yoshiyuki looks a bit like him ). If that's true, wouldn't that make Yoshiyuki the uncle of Otome/Yume?

And for the record, I loved Sakura second best in season 1. So yeah, this episode was very moving for me.

[arkxkra]

Spoiler for ep8:

nice episode, i feel sad and touch in this episode, sad because Sakura is gone, and touch because Sakura use her own to protect them. Whole episode is talking about her, but this is also the final moment of her? T_T. Why life is so cruel...

so Yoshiyuki do not know Sakura sacrificed for him?

BTW, short hair Sakura not bad.

few more episode to go, but dunno what the story left, I feel this episode more like the ending >.<"...

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by nikorai

Just watched episode 8
relentlessflame

Spoiler:

When i saw the little Yoshiyuki i instantly understood what the episode is about. She didn't have to explain in detail.
By the way what's the point of getting hair cut. If it's personal it's ok. But say, Aisia would never do such a thing and she's no worse a magician.
So where can i read game spoilers about Sakura?
At the time i read the summaries there were none for Sakura's path.

Even though I think this would all be a comparison to past game events now, I'll post my reply in the game thread just in case they do decide to come back to it in the anime. It's not a major spoiler, but I don't want to reveal anything before the anime does in this thread.

[ThoHell]

Hm....I'm not sure if I can see this series ending with a couple pairing with its current course. Not to be offensive, but man Da Capo 2 has just been whack and not to my liking at all. Being a Da Capo fan, I'm curious to see how they're going to end this so I'll bear with it a little longer. Only took 20 episode for Juichi and Sakura to have a seen together and even converse....ONLY! Questions still plaguing my mind: Will Sakura ever die? What happened to Nemu and the kids she and Juichi had together?

[ichobi]

I don't quite get why Sakura made a wish so that Yoshiyuji would born. Has there been any explanation prior to this episode?

[ThoHell]

Originally Posted by ichobi

I don't quite get why Sakura made a wish so that Yoshiyuji would born. Has there been any explanation prior to this episode?

none......just random, maybe not completely random but development to current situation seems random.

[ichobi]

I see thanks ThoHell.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by ThoHell

Being a Da Capo fan, I'm curious to see how they're going to end this so I'll bear with it a little longer. Only took 20 episode for Juichi and Sakura to have a seen together and even converse....ONLY! Questions still plaguing my mind: Will Sakura ever die? What happened to Nemu and the kids she and Juichi had together?

Well, keep in mind that, though some characters from the original Da Capo returned and have a role, this show isn't about them, really. It's about Yoshiyuki and the new generation and how they deal with the legacy of the sakura tree. So if you're expecting a great deal of explanation about what happened to the "53 years ago" generation, that's not really the point of this show. There are still a few more details they could throw in and probably will, but the whole point is that they didn't want the old cast to overshadow the new one. This isn't "Da Capo Season 3" (or 4), it's a whole new story that just happens to be tied to the first in some ways. Some questions probably won't be answered in the anime either if they weren't answered in the game (but there's also a good chance that some additional facts may be revealed in the PS2 version of the game that releases this Thursday).

In short, it just sounds to me like you're more interested in the previous generation than the current one, but if that's the case you'll probably inevitably be disappointed. This isn't about them, really.

Originally Posted by ichobi

I don't quite get why Sakura made a wish so that Yoshiyuji would born. Has there been any explanation prior to this episode?

It was mostly explained in episode 8, but more explanation may be forthcoming still. Pay special attention to the conversation Sakura has with Otome, and then with Junichi. The most important thing to remember, though, is the original Da Capo story and the relationship Sakura has with the sakura tree and with Junichi, and how things ended up this way. This season, unlike the first D.C. II anime season, definitely assumes that every viewer has seen the first season (and possibly the second season for good measure, since it helps finalize some details). If you remember the original D.C. anime, and pay attention to what she says this episode, I think it should make sense.

Originally Posted by ThoHell

none......just random, maybe not completely random but development to current situation seems random.

I respect your opinion, but I think you're completely wrong. There's absolutely nothing random about it in the slightest. You just have to know D.C. history and be paying close attention. In my opinion, of course...

[ThoHell]

I'm only curious about the first generation D.C. cast due to the large time jump, it's only natural to wonder and be curious about what had during all the years we didn't get to see.

Sakura from D.C. 1 withered the tree. She insisted --even with the good that the tree can bring-- that magic is dangerous. She tried hard to convey that life lesson to Aisia who ended up reviving the tree, which then couldn't be withered by Sakura. When along the way did she revive the tree and why? I can only see that her mentality was regressed in D.C. 2.

She said in ep 8 that she created the tree, which she didn't. It was planted by her grandmother for her. Pretty much it seems like it made her immortal, kind of weird how immortality was so easily achieved and that there aren't more like her.

Being random, I meant that there wasn't really any hint of connection between Yoshiyuji and the tree or Sakura using its power for Yoshiyuji prior to ep 8, therefore, it seemed to be last ditch climax. You can argue there was, by saying she brought Yoshiyuji home one day out of no where to become part of the family and that was the hint there. But is that really? Where was there the slightest implication that the tree was connect. Next to none would know if they had not seen ep 8.