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Old 2010-09-15, 13:22   Link #9021
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These Cubans are in for shock therapy yeltsin style

http://www.youtube.com/v/6BNqeVw4pss

I say let's tear down the embargo, advice the Cuban government to fire sale its assets and finally let American investments flow to Cuba.
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Old 2010-09-15, 15:05   Link #9022
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Massive Fish Kill Reported in Louisiana

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Old 2010-09-15, 15:25   Link #9023
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That's honestly scary to look at. To think so many animals are all dead in that area, truly mind boggling.
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Old 2010-09-15, 15:56   Link #9024
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Does it have to do with PB Golf Oil Spill? I heard rumors about it that it can affect life over a large area.
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Old 2010-09-15, 16:05   Link #9025
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Does it have to do with PB Golf Oil Spill? I heard rumors about it that it can affect life over a large area.
i don't think the oil help but this has happen before and it is mostly caused by the run off of fertilizers form farms and waste form sewers. The nutrients form the run off cause a bloom in algae and bacteria that depletes the oxygen in the water creating the so call dead zone in oceans, in which there is no life. Some of these dead zones are are big as some states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zone_%28ecology%29

until there is conclusive link between the oil spill and the this dead zone, i think is just a attempt to connect this to the oil spill is just to collect money form BP.
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Old 2010-09-15, 19:09   Link #9026
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Old 2010-09-15, 23:24   Link #9027
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i don't think the oil help but this has happen before and it is mostly caused by the run off of fertilizers form farms and waste form sewers. The nutrients form the run off cause a bloom in algae and bacteria that depletes the oxygen in the water creating the so call dead zone in oceans, in which there is no life. Some of these dead zones are are big as some states.
It isn't only the oil, but also some of the products than they used for fighting the oil spill than could affect the flore.
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Old 2010-09-16, 01:13   Link #9028
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i don't think the oil help but this has happen before and it is mostly caused by the run off of fertilizers form farms and waste form sewers. The nutrients form the run off cause a bloom in algae and bacteria that depletes the oxygen in the water creating the so call dead zone in oceans, in which there is no life. Some of these dead zones are are big as some states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zone_%28ecology%29

until there is conclusive link between the oil spill and the this dead zone, i think is just a attempt to connect this to the oil spill is just to collect money form BP.
I see. If find anything about it do let me know then. I still think the PB oil spill might create dead zones or more of them at the very least eventually.
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It isn't only the oil, but also some of the products than they used for fighting the oil spill than could affect the flore.
Really? I though a lot of it would be natural but guess you proved me wrong in that one.
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Old 2010-09-16, 01:43   Link #9029
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BEIJING (AFP) - – Japan has warned its nationals living in China to be vigilant, an embassy official said Thursday, ahead of possible protests over Tokyo's arrest of a Chinese boat captain in disputed waters.

Beijing and Tokyo are entangled in their worst diplomatic spat in years, stemming from the collision last week of a Chinese fishing trawler and two Japanese coastguard vessels near a disputed island chain in the East China Sea.

China has so far summoned Japan's ambassador five times over the incident and demanded the captain's unconditional release. Tokyo says the skipper intentionally rammed the Japanese vessels during a high-seas chase.

Anti-Japanese protesters are planning demonstrations at the weekend in Beijing and Shanghai, reports say, prompting Tokyo's embassy to urge nationals living or working in China to take heed.

"We warned Japanese nationals living in China as well as those travelling and doing business here, through emails and our website, that they should take care of their safety," an embassy press officer told AFP.

The Japanese official, who asked not to be named, said the embassy had no specific information that a demonstration would take place outside the mission on Saturday, and had received no guidance from Chinese police.

A notice posted on the embassy's website said police had told Tokyo they would "do their utmost to ensure the safety of Japanese nationals".

The statement, dated Wednesday, urged Japanese citizens living in China to "use caution in words and attitude when engaging with Chinese individuals" and refrain from carrying out "noticeably provocative actions".

China's state Global Times newspaper quoted Li Nan, a member of the China Federation of Defending the Diaoyu Islands, as saying his group was considering weekend demonstrations.

A posting in a chatroom of the group's website called for a protest outside the Japanese consulate in Shanghai on Saturday morning.

The uninhabited islands -- called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China -- lie in an area with rich fishing grounds that is also believed to contain oil and gas deposits, and which has been a frequent focus of regional tensions.

China, Japan and Taiwan all claim the islands.

Beijing has already postponed talks with Tokyo on joint energy exploration in the East China Sea and scrapped a trip to Japan by a senior lawmaker in protest, branding the skipper's arrest "illegal".

Tokyo has called the situation "extremely regrettable" and said there were no plans for the prime ministers of China and Japan, the world's number two and three economies, to meet next week on the sidelines of a UN summit in New York.

"Nothing is decided at this point. Both sides have made no active efforts to set up such a meeting," Japan's top government spokesman Yoshito Sengoku said, asked if the bilateral meeting will be held in New York.

The United States has weighed in on the deepening diplomatic spat, urging both sides to resolve the matter through dialogue.

Ties between China and Japan had steadily warmed since 2006, when they began to put behind decades of distrust stemming largely from Japan's wartime invasion of China. They already have a deep trade and economic relationship.

China's communist government often invokes humiliating past incursions by foreign powers to stir nationalism-tinged support at home. It reacts furiously to any apparent territorial challenge, whether on land or at sea.

Chinese protesters staged sometimes violent protests in China in 2005 and 2006 over a range of grievances with Tokyo, including the publication of school textbooks in Japan that referred to the Nanjing massacre as an "incident".

"It's necessary to let Japan feel the threat from grassroots Chinese against its interests," the Global Times said in a commentary.

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PARIS (AFP) - – President Nicolas Sarkozy reacted furiously Wednesday after the European Commission compared France's expulsion of Roma Gypsies to Nazi tactics.

France has been under fire for weeks over Sarkozy's controversial drive to deport ethnic Roma living in travelling communities in France back to Romania and Bulgaria, and Paris now faces the threat of European legal action.

An EU founder member that boasts of being the homeland of human rights, France was shocked when Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding of Luxembourg Tuesday condemned the clampdown in stark terms.

Sarkozy hit back at a meeting with French lawmakers, mockingly suggesting that Luxembourg host the Roma, and promising to respond to the complaints on Thursday at a summit of European Union leaders in Brussels.

"He said he was only applying European regulations, French laws, and France is irreproachable in the matter but that if the Luxembourgers want to take them he had no problem," said Senator Bruno Sido of Sarkozy's UMP party.

"He said that our policy is right and, as he will explain tomorrow, it's scandalous that Europe expresses itself like this on what France is doing."

Luxembourg retorted in similarly harsh terms, with Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn branding Sarkozy's suggestion "malicious" and insisting that Reding had been speaking for Europe and not simply her homeland.

In Brussels, the chairman of the Commission stood by the justice commissioner and said there would be an investigation of France's policy.

"Prohibition of discrimination based on ethnic origin is one of the EU's fundamental values and the EU will do whatever is necessary to ensure respect for these principles," Jose Manuel Barroso told reporters.

The Portuguese official said Reding enjoyed the support both of her commission colleagues and "my personal backing."

France's key ally in Europe, Germany, also supported Reding.

"Freedom of movement within the EU applies without conditions, ethnic minorities should not be discriminated against ... and basic rights apply," German government spokesman Steffen Seibert told a regular briefing.

Bulgarian President Georgy Parvanov weighed in with Sofia's first official protest, saying France was out of step with European values.

On Tuesday, Reding declared she was "appalled by a situation which gave the impression that people are being removed from a member state of the European Union just because they belong to a certain ethnic minority.

"This is a situation I had thought Europe would not have to witness again after the Second World War," she added, sparking fury in France, where talk of the Vichy-era persecution of Jews and Gypsies touches a raw nerve.

Both Barroso and Seibert expressed regret at the tone of Reding's statement, but stood by her right to make the criticism.

Reding, however, attempted to soften her words on Wednesday telling AFP she regretted the "interpretations that are distracting attention from a problem that must be solved now."

In an apparent contradiction of her earlier quotes, she added: "I in no way wanted to draw a parallel between World War II and the actions of the French government today."

Meanwhile, Italian President Silvio Berlusconi backed President Sarkozy saying Reding should have raised her concerns in private with French leaders.

A US State Department official, who asked not to be identified, urged France to "respect the human rights" of the Roma community.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she expected the issue of the Roma to be discussed at a one-day summit in Brussels on Thursday but that she hoped there would be a "better tone."

France stepped up its Roma round-up in August, after Sarkozy called for unauthorised Gypsy and Roma camps to be dismantled, and foreign-born Roma to be sent back to their Eastern European homelands.

Stung by criticism that the ensuing campaign -- in which hundreds of Roma have been put on flights -- amounts to mass deportation targeted at a single minority, France claimed each migrant's case was handled individually.

French ministers say most of those who left had accepted voluntary repatriation, and the rest had been expelled by judges for failing to meet EU-approved residence criteria.

That defence fell apart last week, however, when a document surfaced showing that the interior ministry had taken Sarkozy's speech at face value and ordered police to make clearing Roma camps their "priority".

More than 1,000 Roma have been expelled from France since Sarkozy's speech, with the latest batch of 69 flying out from Marseille on Tuesday.

Those who agree to go voluntarily receive 300 euro (390 dollars) grants to restart their lives, those who do not are brought before a judge who can expel them if they have no proven means of support in France.

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Old 2010-09-16, 09:42   Link #9030
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Old 2010-09-16, 23:45   Link #9031
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Old 2010-09-17, 08:28   Link #9032
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Old 2010-09-17, 18:00   Link #9033
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Wall Street critic Warren to shape consumer watchdog

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(Reuters) - President Barack Obama named Wall Street critic Elizabeth Warren on Friday to oversee creation of a new consumer financial protection agency, drawing praise from liberals and an outcry from Republicans and the financial industry.

Obama announced Warren as a special adviser to steer the new agency's establishment, not as its director, allowing him to avoid a bitter Senate confirmation fight. Republicans accused him of circumventing congressional oversight.

Calling Warren "one of the country's fiercest advocates for the middle class," Obama made clear the outspoken Harvard University professor would take the lead in shaping the powerful new watchdog, a centerpiece of the sweeping regulatory overhaul he signed into law in July.

"From now on, consumers will ... have a tough, independent watchdog whose job it is to stand up for their financial interests, for their families' future," Obama said in the White House Rose Garden with Warren at his side, as he highlighted her working-class roots as a janitor's daughter.

With congressional elections looming in November, the White House hopes Warren's appointment will have populist appeal to voters resentful of Wall Street excesses, seen as a key cause of the deepest U.S. economic downturn since the Great Depression.

But the financial industry and many Republicans opposed Warren's selection, worried that she will bring a heavy-handed regulatory approach that could crimp business profits and global competitiveness.

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which is Warren's brainchild, will have broad powers to write and enforce rules covering mortgages, credit cards and other consumer financial products.

She has until July 2011 to get the agency up and running, according to a federal government notice.

Warren, 61, becomes an assistant to the president and special adviser to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. Obama said she would have direct access to him.

"She will also play a pivotal role in helping me determine who the best choice is for director of the bureau," Obama said. The White House said Obama hopes to name the agency's chief in the next several months but declined to say whether Warren would be a candidate.

"TOUGH COP"

Warren, whose grandmother drove a wagon in the Oklahoma land rush, said in a White House blog post that the new agency would act as a "tough cop on the beat" and declared that the time for financial "tricks and traps" was over. She did not speak at the Rose Garden ceremony.

Supporters hailed her appointment.

"I would like to congratulate American consumers, because nothing could be better news for them in terms of being protected in financial matters like home mortgages, bank accounts, and credit cards," said Representative Barney Frank, Democratic chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

Warren's critics saw her appointment differently.

"The Obama administration's first priority should be ensuring that our financial institutions are operated in a safe and sound manner," Republican Congressman Spencer Bachus said. "Instead they resort to a calculated political ploy to appoint a passionate, but inexperienced, advocate to run a new agency with unprecedented power."

Matt McCormick, a portfolio manager and banking analyst with Bahl & Gaynor, said Warren's appointment was more political than focused on correcting financial industry ills.

"I really doubt she will have the ability to bring people together considering the political nature of her appointment. It is troubling," said McCormick.

There is also potential for friction with Geithner, whom Warren clashed with when she headed the watchdog agency overseeing the government's $700 billion financial bailout program.

But Geithner attended her appointment ceremony and, in a statement issued later by the White House, praised her as a consumer protection pioneer.

While she may have the president's ear, there are questions about whether bypassing the confirmation process will put legal constraints on what she can accomplish.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce slammed the method of her appointment "an affront to the pledge of transparency and consumer protection."

Obama used Friday's announcement to underscore financial reform -- an effort Republicans and Wall Street largely opposed and voters have mostly ignored as they fret over a rough economy saddled with near double-digit unemployment.

The White House hopes Warren's appointment will not only appeal to the middle class but also help energize the president's liberal base before the November 2 election, when his Democratic Party faces the threat of big losses in both chambers of Congress.
Expected the backlash from the megacorps. It is good to see that their days of controlling the financial markets with crap goods are over.
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Old 2010-09-17, 20:13   Link #9034
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Did anyone else get flashbacks of Carl Sagan's Contact? I just know we'll find that hidden message from God...

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Old 2010-09-18, 00:23   Link #9035
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Did anyone else get flashbacks of Carl Sagan's Contact? I hust know we'll find that hidden message from God...
Always.... that section of the classic story managed to raise the hairs on my neck the first time I read it. Those who have seen the movie but not read the book.... you were trolled to some extent (not that the movie is bad, its just not that close to the book).


In other very strange news... I'm trying to figure out why this couple thought Venezuela would want a nuclear bomb and who they'd point it at. Almost belongs in Silly News....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11351535
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Old 2010-09-18, 00:26   Link #9036
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In other very strange news... I'm trying to figure out why this couple thought Venezuela would want a nuclear bomb and who they'd point it at. Almost belongs in Silly News....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11351535
That defiantly belongs in the Silly News.. Why would Venezuela ever need a nuclear bomb plan? Its not like there going to make one anytime soon. Or are they......
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Old 2010-09-18, 17:45   Link #9037
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I just hope we don't start hearing comparisons between this pair and Rosenbergs! On the other hand, given the current climate of opinion in this country, we're probably about due for another security "scandal."
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Old 2010-09-19, 09:25   Link #9038
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Pope "plotters" released

Apparently they were chatting about the Pope's security and someone called the cops. (The Met Police refuse to give any explanation for why they were arrested or released.)

You don't suppose this had anything to do with it?
"The men, all believed to be of North African origin, were arrested on Friday in London."

Nah, probably not.
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Old 2010-09-19, 10:44   Link #9039
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Pope "plotters" released

Apparently they were chatting about the Pope's security and someone called the cops. (The Met Police refuse to give any explanation for why they were arrested or released.)

You don't suppose this had anything to do with it?
"The men, all believed to be of North African origin, were arrested on Friday in London."

Nah, probably not.
Oh boy were they lucky, imagine they were latinos instead. (okay that one was too cynical... but I essentially think SeijiSensei is not far off with his assupmtion, it was at least part of the reason.)
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Old 2010-09-19, 14:54   Link #9040
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Oh boy were they lucky, imagine they were latinos instead. (okay that one was too cynical... but I essentially think SeijiSensei is not far off with his assupmtion, it was at least part of the reason.)
It'd be hilariously sad if the next major attack is carried out by pasty white dudes.
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