Needless

[Homura7]

Spoiler for spoiler:

I don't think it will be even a fight. In fact and considering the level of both needless, there's gonna be more plot development than fight in this arc. As you said, is called Eve's story, and it's to be expected her past will be told next chapter.

[Avvesione]

Originally Posted by _kurusu_

Spoiler for spoiler:

I don't think it will be even a fight. In fact and considering the level of both needless, there's gonna be more plot development than fight in this arc. As you said, is called Eve's story, and it's to be expected her past will be told next chapter.

Spoiler:

Well, they want to inject that stuff into her. Idk if Cruz will stand there and let them do it. And it's about time Cruz does something, especially since Blade and Mio are out (well, dunno about Blade, but we'll assume so). There'll be some info on her past soon. Just wondering who's going to tell the story...... maybe Disk....

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by Avvesione

Spoiler:

Well, they want to inject that stuff into her. Idk if Cruz will stand there and let them do it. And it's about time Cruz does something, especially since Blade and Mio are out (well, dunno about Blade, but we'll assume so). There'll be some info on her past soon. Just wondering who's going to tell the story...... maybe Disk....

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Cruz has done something (and almost always something very important) each arc, he's the main hero afterall. If you mean this one, cmon, I know it's montly, but it has been just 2 chapters since this new arc began

The only I miss here is Gido. They're gonna reveal eveything behind Eve's birth and he's not even with them to listen.

[Avvesione]

Originally Posted by _kurusu_

Spoiler for spoiler:

Cruz has done something (and almost always something very important) each arc, he's the main hero afterall. If you mean this one, cmon, I know it's montly, but it has been just 2 chapters since this new arc began

Spoiler:

Well, Cruz will do something. Almost always has been with his mind, but he did fight in the previous arc. That's the first time he actually tried to fight someone. But that won't do anything. Oh well. Guess we have a month to see what'll happen. Going to try to reread this a few times and see what else I can pick up. The stuff at the beginning of the chapter seems very important and no one has been talking about it yet so maybe I'll look into the kanji they used there...

[big_slick001]

wow, this chapter was SWEET , even though i can understand what they say.
Makes u wish the anime kept going....
The only thing that caught my eye was how can Mio have a BIG camel toe lol

[big_slick001]

Originally Posted by _kurusu_

And some people said I was joking when I came with the biblical reference and said Saten is the Satan of Needless...

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Good point, Sekirei. Saten wears another bandage covering his neck, and Christ had a big scar on that part. With just the left arm Saten crushed Blade in an instant.

Also, as I said before, if Cruz turns he's Christ's reincarnation, you know what this would mean, about the tattoos.

but Saten didnt have the bandages at the begining of the manga so he must have gotten help from the old guy to achieve greater power...or probably the author didnt drew them at first

http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/1/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/1/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/1/16-17/

[Ca12nag3]

Spoiler for ch75:

Im not sure if thats due to plot or art, Imai could have just implemented the idea of the bandage later, remember that the symbol on Arclight only shows when he activates it, so if this is a similar thing it would fade once he stops using it.

For plot, even if the bandage is put there to hide it he could have put it there himself he dont need some old geezer to be his nanny, and the power he could have had for a long time now... So he could have hidden it from Blade if he used it before due to the bandage.

[big_slick001]

i see...i didnt even know there was a lot of NEEDLESS fans, u know sum1 should start a NEEDLESS social group i tried findin 1 but no luck

[Avvesione]

Spoiler for Saten:

Seems that the 5th Wave may have to deal with Dark Matter. On page 23, Saten is talking about the first 4 powers after the big bang. He's saying that the 5th power of the universe is dark matter. Would explain why he was able to use his attack without requiring heat/freezing

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by big_slick001

but Saten didnt have the bandages at the begining of the manga so he must have gotten help from the old guy to achieve greater power...or probably the author didnt drew them at first

http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/1/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/1/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/1/16-17/

Spoiler for spoiler:

Actually, that's because he used the Fifth Wave during the extermination of the resistance force, shattering both arm bandages in the process.

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...3?t=1263731339

Below panel you can read "Fifth Wave".

Though to me it looks more one of those drawing mistakes all mangakas do sometimes:

http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/8/30/

Either way, no problem with that. Though at least one or both arm bandages shattered considering he used the Fifth Wave at that time.

If you want proof Saten had the bandages from the very beggining, read Needless ZeroII first story that takes place 10 years before Needless original story.

[Sekirei07]

Yes Saten's look has changed a LOT since his debut, along with most of the villain's, Arclight's cloths, Uten not looking too childish, Saten in general, Riru got bigger boobs.

Spoiler for Saten's Dark Matter:

Saten's tattoo could have given his fragment a Dark Matter Energy affect. In theory Dark Matter is believed to add in the expansion of the universe and Dark Energy accelerates other forms of energy. So if that's true than it makes sense when taking into account Saten's fragment.

Saten releases seal > gains dark energy affect > currently stored energy shots way up > Saten fires a much more powerful blast

Saten's power is still a take and give relationship but now he gets more bang for his buck. Blade needs to take him out before he can absorb anymore energy.

I am also hoping that Blade might have some new unknown fragment that we havent seen yet that could help him in this fight, or turns the tide for him.

Spoiler for Cruz might awaken now I hope:

I thought of this one last night and would be the best scenario for getting the gang out of this one. Ishiyama beats up Cruz to protect Eve. Cruz awakens with the Dobbelganger ability and uses it to turn his broken arm into a drill and drives it through Ishiyama critically hurting him. Saten notices and has to retreat with Ishiyama. Gang is spared and Cruz can use Dobbelganger to heal Eve. Everybody wins! Than 666 will take an interest in Cruz now as well.

[Homura7]

Spoiler for spoiler:

You expect Blade defeat Saten when he only could defeat Aruka with his fragment and Cruz's help? Not gonna happen. Plus, the tattoo has nothing to do with Saten's fragment. Even if Blade gets up, he has no chance.

As for the tattoo itself, it works as a power amplifier, wich increased the power of Saten's wave. When Arclight activated his tattoo, the strenght of his punches increased considerably.

At this point it should be noted the Fourth Wave is nothing more than a extension of Saten's fragment.

Cruz will do something very important as always, but him gaining his fragment, it's not the time... yet.

[Magin]

Originally Posted by Sekirei07

Spoiler for Cruz might awaken now I hope:

I thought of this one last night and would be the best scenario for getting the gang out of this one. Ishiyama beats up Cruz to protect Eve. Cruz awakens with the Dobbelganger ability and uses it to turn his broken arm into a drill and drives it through Ishiyama critically hurting him. Saten notices and has to retreat with Ishiyama. Gang is spared and Cruz can use Dobbelganger to heal Eve. Everybody wins! Than 666 will take an interest in Cruz now as well.

I don't know what you're smoking, but I want some of it... remember, the most we've seen of what Cruz can do other than figuring out how the fragments work is survive things that should've killed him 10x over. I'm guessing that Cruz will at least be guessing Ishiyama's fragment

[Avvesione]

One thing that will happen this arc is we'll find out Eve's past since it is titled "Eve's Story"...

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I'm wondering what Ishiyama and Saten's interest in Eve is. Seems strange since both of them have Eden Seeds in them, so they don't want that from her. Also, Saten has an interest in Cruz, so I wonder if we'll get a hint sometime this arc about what Saten wants out of Cruz.

[Ca12nag3]

Spoiler for ch75:

guessing the old geezers fragement wont help Mio 1 bit since shes power, all she can do is swing and hit with large objects. And her body is tough. So even knowing what that guys fragment is wont change a bit. Also Blade and Saten took off to fight outside the room.
So its realy Cruz who got to do something. But hey i dont know what i mean even if he got a power he never used one before ( at least not that he knew off) It could be that he used it before but thats only when he was in a dangerous situation and to survive. (that is if thats the case) and that its not just hero-luck). Like when he rescued Eve or the fall from great hight. Ishiyama is an experienced fighter so even with a power like Mio has he whipes the floor with her lol.

[Avvesione]

Spoiler:

Do you think Saten can only use the Fifth Wave when he unleashes his power like that? (with the tattoo and all?).

Also, do you think anyone else has Eden's Seeds? Looking at the people who do have them isn't that surprising at all. However, looking at those who don't shows that Aruka is the strongest non-Eden Seed class Needless out there... and we all know who Aruka is related too...

[Ca12nag3]

Originally Posted by Avvesione

Spoiler:

Do you think Saten can only use the Fifth Wave when he unleashes his power like that? (with the tattoo and all?).

Also, do you think anyone else has Eden's Seeds? Looking at the people who do have them isn't that surprising at all. However, looking at those who don't shows that Aruka is the strongest non-Eden Seed class Needless out there... and we all know who Aruka is related too...

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Well i dont know. Im still trying to figure out if Cruz realy has some power or is he just a bystander. Im thinking about the list again You see the leader of the resistance knew something was up, he didnt trust Aruka yet he did Cruz...why? Also in the worst case ( and i guess he was expecting it) the resistance would be whiped out yet the list must be save. Now if his hunch was right about Aruka he would know she would kill Cruz and then find that list on him. So what made him so sure that it would be safe with Cruz?....

[big_slick001]

Originally Posted by _kurusu_

Spoiler for spoiler:

Actually, that's because he used the Fifth Wave during the extermination of the resistance force, shattering both arm bandages in the process.

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...3?t=1263731339

Below panel you can read "Fifth Wave".

Though to me it looks more one of those drawing mistakes all mangakas do sometimes:

http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/8/30/

Either way, no problem with that. Though at least one or both arm bandages shattered considering he used the Fifth Wave at that time.

If you want proof Saten had the bandages from the very beggining, read Needless ZeroII first story that takes place 10 years before Needless original story.

Alrithy then

[Sekirei07]

Originally Posted by Avvesione

Spoiler:

Do you think Saten can only use the Fifth Wave when he unleashes his power like that? (with the tattoo and all?).

Also, do you think anyone else has Eden's Seeds? Looking at the people who do have them isn't that surprising at all. However, looking at those who don't shows that Aruka is the strongest non-Eden Seed class Needless out there... and we all know who Aruka is related too...

Spoiler for Rather than Eden Cells:

I'm more interested in who has the other parts of The Second if Saten only has his left arm.

[Avvesione]

Originally Posted by Sekirei07

Spoiler for Rather than Eden Cells:

I'm more interested in who has the other parts of The Second if Saten only has his left arm.

Spoiler:

Now there's something to think about. The first time we saw the Second was when he was in that cylinder with only his torso and head. That means that Saten probably had the left arm before that. (and for the other limbs, those may have been fused on other people too...) Be interesting to see if we learn more about Saten during Eve's past.