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2012-01-28, 05:11 | Link #2363 | |
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Even tho you are responding to me I do understand what your trying to say even if it is badly worded. I have very similar disgust on AA crew actions as a whole. But ive already said my piece years ago in different threads. But for argument purpose im just going to stay neutral and avoid another circle of arguments specifically the nature of Kira's insertions. I hope you can understand. Quote:
But for the sake of plot and story we can see from the final product why she was at the frontlines instead of doing what politicians that dont agree with mainstream decisions do back in parliament. Last edited by winter45; 2012-01-28 at 08:55. Reason: Work calls |
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2012-01-30, 12:59 | Link #2364 |
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After re-wachting Gundam Seed and Destiny for the 4th time i can say that this SEED serie is the best Anime imo out in the anime world, its just great everything! The drama, the action, its all perfect. And i know there allot of those bashers, it's just you guys take it to damn serieusly these Gundam series, Kira is just perfect! FU
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2012-01-30, 14:04 | Link #2365 | |
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2012-01-30, 18:26 | Link #2366 | ||
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I'm sorry, but Athrun is the last person who should be blaming others about not making the "smart" choices. The funny thing is, that he keeps on doing it, like when he was mad at Shinn for not being a good soldier when, as we can see in SEED, Athrun wasn't always a good soldier himself. |
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Define bashers? most people here recently are being civil. Quote:
You can go around the net and find kira cultists or lacus bearers, kiraXathrun social groups as an example of *serious* Perhaps in your own mind, but he does have flaws shown throughout SEED and DESTINY. Quote:
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Hehe Times has changed... the mention athrun not being a good soldier lead to neg reps, hate mails and at least 20 rabid fans disagreeing. Last edited by winter45; 2012-01-31 at 01:09. Reason: Major editing |
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2012-01-31, 07:57 | Link #2368 |
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What kinda flaws did Kira shown in SEED and destiny? I think Kira was really intresting, with the fact that he was the ultimate coordinator! But again like Kira also say'd, he was selfish sometime's, that is maybe a flaw. I think that Gill in Destiny was a Good man with an good solution, but Kira and lacus didnt like'd it and they put up a meaningless fight.
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2012-01-31, 08:52 | Link #2369 |
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Perfection in real life doesn't exist that's why I thought in a sci-fi movie or an anime, one could be. Unfortunately, there is none. Even Kira, who is one of my favorite pilot thus far.
I know there are bashers of Seed. Most of their claims are baseless and they were just on it because they think they're cool if they do. Anyway, if you see it here, expect it to be deleted. For me, Seed is a good series, but Destiny is err.. have good mechs least to say. It's confusing, really.
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2012-01-31, 14:17 | Link #2370 | |
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2012-01-31, 15:12 | Link #2371 | |
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She would risk a war with the AF again, and the last time Orb did that, Orb was conquered. |
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2012-01-31, 15:23 | Link #2372 | |
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She could go back earlier, but she could surely not do anything. You know, many people are very stubborn regarding elders and hierarchy; they follows whatever craps from a mature, well-formed nobles like Seiran, but not from a young, orphaned ones aka Athha, though Cagalli is clearly much more smarter. This was one of the reason of the unnecessarily causalities in the Orb-Minerva battle. Very crazy, wasn't it ? And I think it was Cagalli who insisted to go out to interference, and it was impossible to stop her. This is why I think she is a much better solider than a bad leader. |
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2012-02-02, 02:16 | Link #2373 |
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Seed kira was shown that he could be manipulated. DESTINY he was defeated by being predictable against shinn. There are others but im short on time. @wm4 Cagalli even tho she may not get fast direct results she may try other approaches such as rallying and campaigning. Government officials practice this when they are against a mainstream decision. Given her political opponent is removed of course it a good time to come back. No risk no obstacles no effort. Yes it is easy to stop her. Room with 3 walls and bars.. solves everything when trying to restrain someone... j/k aside, AA crew are very irresponsible for allowing the head of state to freely do as she pleases in a battle. Safety of government official is a high priority when on board a military vessel in the navy. Considering cagalli is quite poor as a politician then i wouldn't be surprised anything she does would be better. NO offense but she would also be a pi$$ poor soldier as well. The scenes where ORB pilots yelling at her what soldiers do and fight for is a clear indication she doesn't understand the qualities that makes a soldier. |
2012-02-02, 04:38 | Link #2374 | |
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I looks obvious that Cagalli didn't have much support in the administration. Her left & right arms were the Seiren family. I guess one needs some time to prepare a campaign, but it looked apparently that everyone of the AF, the PLANT, and of course the internal culprits were constantly stealing her time. What happened in the storyline was not that optimal, either. The rise and fall of Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi (as well as Char in CCA; I mentioned Char because al-Gaddafi and him were quite similar at that point) is a pretty classical example of a hero taking leadership. |
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Why it was controversial? Kira and Mu. They should have stayed dead, instead they ruined everything. Athrun also needs to make up his mind for once and Cagalli needs to stop being lead around the nose. Shinn should have got more development and screen time as well as his relationship with Lunamaria expanded upon.
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2013-01-06, 00:56 | Link #2379 |
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Shinn never would have died, he was fine. Lunamaria fixed his helmet before is cracked completely.
Besides, original Mu and Kira were supposed to die. That was changed due to Kira fanboys and many refusing to accept Mu's death. Hence why they edited out his blood helmet floating in space. Destiny need more focus on the Real Main Character. Shinn, and a real villain. Not Mu pretending he was Rau. |
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It just felt like SEED Destiny lacked a lot of originality too, specially mid-way through to the end, where it melted down into SEED 2.0 pretty much.
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