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Perfect 10 | 7 | 17.07% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 14 | 34.15% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 19.51% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 19.51% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 7.32% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 2.44% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-02-03, 06:00 | Link #21 | |
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Poor psychopatic massacre (How did he make psychopatic massacre from Saigusa Haruka in the first place oO).
This time she got trolled pretty hard. It appears like Futaki's point is something like: 'Hey You are friends, with Haruka right? Or are you actually MY friends?' very mean. Quote:
So depending on where you live secret DNA tests, when you are unsure if your child is really your kid, could could actually bring you in front of a court too. On another note: To get those famous 99.99 % results you need more than just the the children's and the father's DNA, you need the other parent's DNA too. And no, neither wife nor husband can substitute permission for their DNA being used for a test for the other, they can however substitute the permission for their children. (in Germany, only the mother can, In Austria both parents can when they got shared child custody.This might not be up to date though; If something changed then most likely that everyone has to agree.) A court can however order a DNA test, then no more consent is needed. Don't get me wrong, you can still determine it, but its a lot less accurate, A reputabable institute would btw never use DNA material for a test without a person's signature. Another problem is, which is probably tied to the above example, is that the DNA could be taken from anywhere if the person doesn't sign that the DNA used is theirs
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2013-02-03, 08:33 | Link #23 | |
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Okay... Haruka and Kanata's family is really dysfunctional.
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More along the lines it is illegal to do so unless both parties are willing.
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2013-02-03, 10:36 | Link #24 | |
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One added bit I wanted to mention here - I feel a bit badly for Kud in all of this. It was subtle, but I could tell how sad and conflicted Kud is feeling right now. Kanata is her roommate, after all, and Kanata agreed to that to help Kud out. And Kanata is nice enough to Kud. So having Kanata and Kud's LB! friends at each other's throats must be very depressing and alarming for Kud. Actually, I kind of think that Riki should have verbally restrained himself a bit more simply out of respect for Kud and Kanata helping her out (saying "We all hate you" is rather harsh of course). That obviously doesn't justify how Kanata treats Haruka, but I don't like how everybody seems to be forgetting that this is Kud's roommate here.
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2013-02-03, 10:47 | Link #26 | |
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It's good that the dude is humble, but seriously, he tremendously helped two different girls in a matter of weeks. It's not "arrogant" for him to think he could similarly help out Haruka. He's earned the right to say "Hey, I successfully helped out a couple people recently. So I have reason to hope that I can help out Haruka too."
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2013-02-03, 11:01 | Link #27 |
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The only thing I could say is “Will the real Haruka Saigusa please stand up?”
And also, I feel that it's biologically and anatomically impossible to have a woman being impregnated by two different guys at the same time! No wonder their family is so screwed up! |
2013-02-03, 11:10 | Link #28 | |
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Heteropaternal Superfecundation |
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2013-02-03, 11:45 | Link #29 |
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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It would be interesting to know if anyone who has not read the manga/played the game already knows who is Futaki and who is Haruka atm.
One of them is obviously wearing contac lenses, and tbh I wouldn't be too sure the Haruka at the end of the episode is Futaki lol. looking at it from an objective perspective - the smile and the question point really hard to her being Futaki, however the fact that the Chiffon cake tasted as it was supposed to is actually a contradiction. "Haruka's" was dry "Futaki's" was perfect Haruka claimed that she is really good with dishes including eggs, such as chiffon cake - yet the cake was dry as hell. So what if dry-cake Haruka was actually Futaki, while oasis-cake Haruka was really Haruka? It is also a bit strange how "futaki" let the plate fall to the ground when Riki said 'yesterday'. Maybe I'm just overthinking this though
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2013-02-03, 13:01 | Link #31 |
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I just knew they would have one of the twins impersonate the other at some point
Incidentally, since Haruka and Kanata have different fathers, shouldn't they look different? They're not real twins. The episode was pretty good. They strongly hinted Kanata was in truth treated as harshly as Haruka. Their shared hardships should have brought them closer (and I expect this is what will happen soon), but it's sadly the opposite that happened.
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2013-02-03, 13:02 | Link #32 | |
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Since the mother is the same, the case is the same ^.^ |
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2013-02-03, 13:06 | Link #33 | |
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In my opinion the girls could have stood to look a little more different. It would have made the surprise much more of a surprise (I knew they were linked somehow all along since they had the exact same hair and the same hair ball ornaments). And no, despite having different fathers, they are still considered twins because they developed at the same time in their mother's womb. Again, heteropaternal superfecundation. |
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2013-02-03, 13:09 | Link #34 |
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As suspected Kanata has nothing to do with flyers and is against it.
Going by her conversation with Riki it looks like her life was just as bad as Haruka's. Everyone are thinking that she had it easy since she was accepted by her family, but is it really the case? That slap clearly shows that she is being abused just as much as Haruka if not more. The only difference is that Haruka openly shows and tells her problems while Kanata keeps everything inside under cool facade. Haruka might be abused but she has freedom to do whatever she wants while Kanata has to follow strict rules. It would be even harsher on her if murderer happens to be her real father because then she would have to work twice harder to keep the status. I really wouldn't be surprised if she sometimes would pretend to be Haruka to have some fun and freedom. I might be over thinking but Kanata does care for Haruka in her own way. Riki noticed it and it wouldn't make much sense for her to keep that hair gum otherwise. So I'm wondering if she sometimes took Haruka's place and took the bashing. Though I do admit that I might be giving her a bit too much credit with last statement. I still can't completely understand what Kurd saw... possible bruises since Kanata always wears long sleeves while in that shot there are none so... This is my take on her.
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2013-02-03, 13:12 | Link #35 |
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I thought Kud was just feeling awkward. I never suspected she might have seen things on Kanata's body, but it might put things into a bit more perspective.
The narrative and execution was still a bit wonky but this has been a very good episode, in the same league as Mio's final episode.
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2013-02-03, 13:13 | Link #36 | ||
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in Haruka's eyes, Kanata is the sister who had everything go right for her. Kanata received praise and inheritance for being "the good daughter", and that obviously will breed jealousy and animosity in Haruka's heart. In Kanata's eyes, Haruka's misbehaving is causing Kanata serious problems with her family. If Haruka would stop acting like a delinquent, Kanata would be spared a lot of the punishment she's received. It's not hard to see why Kanata has a Zero Sum view of the world. Kanata's being "the chosen daughter" brings Haruka grief. Haruka's fun-loving mild delinquency is bringing Kanata a harder time with her family. This is a job for Komari's Happiness Spiral!
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2013-02-03, 13:18 | Link #37 | |
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This is purely speculation though...
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2013-02-03, 13:19 | Link #38 | ||
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Nobody is saying that Kanata had it easy, but don't you think it's a bit presumptive to assume that Kanata was abused exactly as much as Haruka was? Quote:
Why are people on this thread now trying to downplay the abuse Haruka received and/or exaggerate the abuse Kanata received?
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2013-02-03, 13:25 | Link #39 | |
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It's impossible to know for sure at this point, but I have a feeling her treatment, while better in appearance, was actually just as bad as Haruka. What Kud saw which shocked her so much was probably Kanata's scarred/bruised body. She might even be the figure we see in the OP.
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