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Perfect 10 | 86 | 50.89% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 52 | 30.77% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 16 | 9.47% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 4.73% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 1.78% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.59% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 1.78% | |
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2009-03-14, 05:39 | Link #201 | ||
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2009-03-14, 07:38 | Link #203 | |||
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Awesome episode. Haruta with his girlfriend was pure win. We found out Ami isn't as cold hearted as some people may have thought and that Minorin wants to live her life without the help of others. And again there was plenty to analyze in this episode, which is what really makes this series so good. In the interview room Taiga says she wants to fall in love normally but at the cake shop she says falling in love from fighting all the time is normal, ah the irony. I didn't care too much for the final classroom scene where they ganged up on Taiga but the story needs to be moved along since there is only two episodes left now. It was nice all the friends are cooperating and helping each other out too. All that's left is for Minorin and Ryuji to chase Taiga for their final confrontation. What stinks is I don't think Ami will confess or Ryuji will find out about Ami's feelings. There is no way he'd figure it out since she is quite vague with her feelings towards Ryuji when he is with her.
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Well, his mother got sick because she took on another job for his sake, so its okay with him being a little upset over it. And yeah, Ami really should have come clean in this episode with Ryuji. If we had more episodes I'm sure at one point she would have (I don't know what happens in the novel since I haven't read it yet, so don't tell me).
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2009-03-14, 08:10 | Link #204 |
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The ending part of this episode is some what rather painful to watch but quite enjoyable. However, early parts left me speechless so I gave it 10/10.
This episode is masterpiece, best among all Toradora episodes. If you watch carefully, producer put out a lot of novel details in there through hidden thoughts. Spoiler for My epic scenes:
Gosh.....this episode made me decide to keep DVD volumes. |
2009-03-14, 08:15 | Link #205 | |
A blast from the past
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Me too. People should learn not to spoil things in other series' threads...
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2009-03-14, 08:33 | Link #206 |
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Kushieda is one walking mass of paradoxes and hypocrisies. She doesn't want people meddling in her emotional affairs, but always interjects herself in Taiga's and Ryuuji's already turbulent relationship. She believes in independence to find your own happiness, but treats Taiga like Taiga's a child who doesn't know what she wants.
At the very least, Ami is practicing what she preaches, even if she's become the cast's highly brooding and suddenly docile member.
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2009-03-14, 09:34 | Link #207 |
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I can't believe I agree with Meo in matters beyond DotA, but yes. This episode made her so out of character, and translations helped little (not complaining, though).
DragoZERO: You're welcome, although I barely spoiled anything. If you can't even stand very broad strokes like that for comparison's sake, I can't see how you tolerate other forums or threads. Please. K, that came off angry. To expound, however, I barely spoiled anything. I didn't even mention any important occurrences in the film. But it's a wonderful movie. Someone spoiled it to me before and I still found it the best Ghibli movie I ever saw.
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2009-03-14, 10:00 | Link #208 |
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How's she interjecting herself into Ryuuji and Taiga's problem? She avoided Ryuuji after the summer vacation, after she made up with him after the culture festival she told him she's deceptive and he shouldn't look at her the way he does, and after that she goes back to avoiding him like the plague. Can you think of an instance where she butts into Taiga's business with Ryuuji on her own volition before the confrontation in the last episode? The closest I can think of was in the second episode when she takes both of them to the roof to tell them that she supports their relationship which.... doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. She always had good intentions but she just had trouble telling people what she wanted.
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2009-03-14, 13:02 | Link #213 | |
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The way I see it, getting anything else other than the "happily ever after" is like striking the lottery, or being killed by an asteroid. Whichever way you wanna look at it. |
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2009-03-14, 13:06 | Link #214 |
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FYI: Anime's storyboard went different from novel from start by opening confession scene before rumors. And about hairpin, it's anime's variations showing that Taiga realized it's Ryuuji who saved her. That's why she asked Ryuuji out if it was a dream.
They made it beautifully done. It might not cover everything from novel but it fits perfectly for anime. |
2009-03-14, 13:16 | Link #215 |
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Indeed, the result speaks volumes about the team's talents. It certainly isn't the team or studio's fault that they have only 25 episodes to work with.
If anime creation is about making the best show under given circumstances, the Toradora! team earns an A+. |
2009-03-14, 15:34 | Link #216 |
Knowledge is the solution
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Hmm... I'm kinda surprised at people saying that Minori acted out of character this episode. Haven't we known for more than 10 EP's that Minori is an internal mass of contradictions and self lies waiting to explode? (e.g. this episode).
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2009-03-14, 17:00 | Link #219 |
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If anything Minori behaviour over those episodes just disappointed me, I mean passive-aggressively trying to get Taiga and Ryuji together by ignoring Ryuji really is no better than Taiga actively trying to push Ryuji and Minori together. Real life couples date first to see if they click, if it works that's great, if it doesn't move they onto someone else. If the people in this story actually tried to date first they wouldn't have to have stupid arguments over 'who's better for who'.
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2009-03-14, 23:05 | Link #220 |
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Past two weeks I've been rewatching the first half of the series... and have been even more impressed. Maybe it's cause I got into Toradora around after episode 10 came out so I marathoned the series up to there, but so many details are planted so early that I never really picked up on, and hints at characters' true feelings that aren't revealed until much later... really makes me appreciate the writing so much more.
On another note, is it just me or did Ryuuji and Taiga almost get run over by a Prius this episode?
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