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2006-10-17, 15:07 | Link #542 |
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Golden Week is a collection of 4 holidays and Japan just said "WTH" and made it a whole week off. The whole country pretty much shuts down for festivals and holiday. It happens in the first week of May.
So... the school year starts on April 1st and just about the time everyone gets rolling they have Golden Week. Then in mid-summer there's a one month summer break (which is usually filled with homework and extra-help cram classes) then a fall stretch until the harvest holidays. Basically instead of the massively antiquated stupid "3 months off for summer" most Americans have (so, who helped with the summer farmwork last summer?) they get lots of breaks throughout the year. Of course, their school system actually expects you to work and meet expectations and the parents support that concept The wiki thoughts are interesting but mostly speculative.... basic problem with wiki-data is that lame stuff can get left in if few participate or no one provides updated info. Anime stuff in particular seems to have its share of "religious viewpoints" that may or may not have references for backup.
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2006-10-17, 22:17 | Link #544 |
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Aye, 29April to 5May, so it slides over a weekend as we rotate through the 7 year week cycle. http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2282.html
Heh.... it could also make Kyon *wrong* because he was still half-conscious. It could also mean the writers forgot about Leap Year (when in 2004 normally the 6th would have fallen on Wednesday but Feb29 pushed it) It could also be an intentional Twilight Zone moment --- Haruhi has screwed with reality. I can't discount it completely though... it *could* mean that it is the year 2009 in the series... but then that would mean Kyon was fretting about 1999 when he was 5.... odd but not impossible. And I don't suspect much daily life change in only three years barring disaster.... Placing the Haruhi Initial Bang at the 2006 release of the series would be something KyoAni would think of though.... I guess that would clear the XP problem since no one is actually going to upgrade to Vista without having their teeth pulled
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2006-10-17, 22:38 | Link #545 |
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I dunno, I think Kazu's thought is plausible- he's not lamenting the uneventful passing of 1999 specifically, he's lamenting that the new millenia has come without the wonders anticipated by scifi and the like.
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2006-10-17, 23:10 | Link #547 | |
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By the way, the debut chapter was "Suzumiya Haruhi no Taikutsu" (the baseball episode). The first novel volume, "Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu", was released a little over a month later (6/10/03). In other words, Tanigawa-san started with the magazine serialization and novel volume release at the same time (although at the time it was only meant to be a one-shot story written as an entry for the Sneaker awards (which it won)). Tanigawa-san pretty much stayed like that since then: short stories for the magazine serialization, and an original long story for a novel volume every once in a while (like Shoushitsu (vol.4) and Inbou (vol.7), for example). *pops out* |
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2006-10-18, 01:32 | Link #548 |
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Sometimes no matter how careful a writer is there can be continuity errors .. hell even Tolkien carried around a bag of errors to his grave and LOTR to this day has continuity errors in it. Given the author of the various forms of SHnY has to have one hell of a flowchart/timeline of things happening and *all* the little bits that require continuity checks.... I'm not going to get toooooo anal about it.
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2006-10-18, 11:15 | Link #550 |
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Technically... a "slider" is really a time traveler. They're just moving across the axis (river?) of spacetime rather than up and down it.
Yuki might qualify simply because she's aware of how the timeflow is being manipulated but Mikuru comes closer. Itsuki's entrance into "closed space" also qualifies (closed space being a new baby universe or an intersecting p-brane depending on your physics flavor of the week). Storywise, I haven't seen any indication that someone is tagged specifically as a slider ... maybe the translator guys have noticed someone?
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2006-10-18, 11:36 | Link #551 |
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A slider can also be someone who goes into alternate universes and parallarities. There was a TV drama series a while back called Sliders that discribed something about that. Also, various novels have certain context in regards to this, like Alan Dean Foster's Parallex. So which character has been travelling time and space and demensions or alternate universes?...
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2006-10-18, 16:14 | Link #552 |
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Speaking of sliders, from what I heard, what was actually said in the orignal Japanese was "ike-sekai-jin", which means "one from another world". Likewise, instead of timetravelers, it was "mirai-jin", which I believe means "one from the future".
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2006-10-18, 16:34 | Link #553 |
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"alternate universes" and "parallelaties" are just descriptions of the branching of spacetime as a result of quantum wave events. So a time-traveler by default would be sliding up and down and across these branches - which is why I equated sliders and time travelers. I just don't differentiate between "time travel" and "parallel universe hopping" -- though I know people think of them differently in popular fiction.
As Meophist points out, the japanese terms are a little bit squishy.
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2006-10-18, 19:46 | Link #555 |
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Picture theory bothers me. I'm pretty suspicious of her claims that she can exist in a timeline and still 'have no effect,' especially when she interacts directly with such a powerful agent as Haruhi. Hell, the time-travelers started the whole 'John Smith' causal loop.
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2006-10-23, 01:24 | Link #558 |
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About the year the story takes place, here's my 2 cents:
First of all, the year of the story for the anime is definitely 2004 (unless KyoAni does a fix on the DVD). My proof? In ep. 10, around 5:30 of the a.f.k. release, Kyon's cellphone clearly show that 5/25 is a Tuesday. That would be year 2004. As for the year for the novel, I have come to the conclusion that either somebody messed the date up (either in-story character or the author), or it's 2003. My first clue is Dec. 17 -20 must be school days, since Kyon went to school during those 4 days in Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya. My second clue is July 7 (Tanabata event) and Sept. 1 (first day of school after summer vocation) must also be school days, since Kyon also attended school during those dates. Unfortunately, these 2 dates happen to be the same day. But now there's a contradiction. Assuming Kyon's high school don't have school on Saturday (as seen during the first "SOS Brigate wondering around the city" acitivity), then 12/17 must be a Monday or a Tuesday. That would be 2001, 2002 and 2007. But on all of those years, 7/7 and 9/1 are on weekend. I have 2 explanations (other than someone messed the date up) for this contradiction. (1) Because Kyon's high school was in special pre-holiday schedule, they might have to show up for school on Saturday. This will allow 2003 and 2008 to be considered, and 7/7 and 9/1 are monday on those years. (2) Due to the event in Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, 12/18 - 12/20 can be concidered as a separate timeline. So as long as 7/7, 9/1, and 12/17 are weekday, any year is fine (which happens to be 2003, 2004, 2008, and 2009). Both explanations have some flaws in them. But that's the best I can do. Of course, there's also the issue of "the first day after golden week is a wednesday". If we were to accept that as truth, then there's no way to dispute the story must have happened on 2009. Together with all the other messed up, we can then say the author didn'r really plan on the date very carefully at all. Bah, I say. Instead, I think the ff. are what really happend (most of which already mentioned by someone else): (1) Error in translation. While this is the cause I would like to believe the most, concidering both the official Traditional Chinese translation and the a.f.k. translation gave the same translation, this is unlikely. (2) The day Taniguchi tapped Kyon's shoulder is not the same day Kyon talked to Haruhi about her hair. But the way the story is presented definitely suggest those 2 events happened on the same day... (3) Kyon in still delirious from the long holiday. (4) Kyon's school didn't start on May 6, but almost a week later. But I have no proof to back this up. The 7th novel might also shed some light to this issue (via Valentine's day), but I haven't read the book yet, so I wouldn't know... |
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In films, they have somebody whose sole task is to do "continuity checks" to make sure such things are tidier.... it may be that all we can say is that with Haruhi mucking up the spacetime continuum even the stones things are written on are malleable.
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2006-11-03, 20:25 | Link #560 |
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Ok, really random question!
Does Asakura's hairstyle have a particular name? To be percise I'm talking about the part where the hair behind her ears is tied back in a ponytail and drapped over the hair in the back of her head. Really crappy description, sorry. Just one of those odd things that has been nagging me. |
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