2012-08-22, 14:57 | Link #1662 |
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There are no teams competing with each other in Kemari, rather it is a group of players cooperating in keeping the ball from touching the ground.
You're basically allowed to use any part of your body, except your hands. From the Vol.6 illustrations and the anime, Kemari in the LN is apparently played like football (Imagawa playing against a goal keeper), with the opponent losing if he can't keep the ball afloat/out of the goal. Kemari is a game focusing on teamwork&exercising your body I guess.
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2012-08-22, 15:17 | Link #1665 |
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^ OOOH! Yay, Sumeragi! Thanks! Marry me!
The intense drama keeps me on the edge of my seat, although the pacing of inserting comedy into it (as per Mechatrill's summary) seems a bit off to me at times But yay! Hanbei! I couldn't hear any better news! And geez, so all the foreshadowing about manipulation and betrayal.. I guess it's keeping with the shifting alliances of the Sengoku Jidai.. I wonder if the Miyoshi are involved as well? |
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Kemari is also listed as Imagawa' hobby (as with all the court officials and royalties at time) in history and was know to be very good. So much so that this image overshadows the fact he was nicknamed as 東海一の弓 (The best archer in Tokai Region) and was responsible in restoring Imagawa clan's prominence.
Back to Oda mom. While this doesn't excuse her from it, but the mom, Tsuchida Gozen, is of court descend. The Gozen in her name/title is a proof that she was either a court maiden herself, or she is from families with Kuge (court background) descend. That been said, she basically married down to Nobuhide (maybe due to his talent and as a way to keep him in line.) After all, you don't usually see a retainer of a retainer to have a court-related marriage. But that would explain the divide here. As for the names that got thrown out, all of them have much higher social standing as Bukai (samurai clans) royalties so their well-manner were not surprising. But with that been said, ao far in this series, the ones that would fit the court manner has been Imagawa and, believe or not, Mitsuhide. Quote:
The difference here is that Nobunaga was been opposed by virtually EVERYONE when he took over and have to proof himselve. While Shingen had the support of most retainer as well as the younger brother whom his father favored when he started his coup. But I agree, Nobuna is weak when it comes to putting up a front or a show. It not that she can't do it, she just didn't want to. But in her defense, she shouldn't have to wear a mask in front of her own mom. Quote:
You were right, Kemari was a sport from Chinese royal court. It's basically soccer/football without the scoring part of it. In novel, V6 to be precise, it was still that way. Spoiler for V6::
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2012-08-22, 18:10 | Link #1668 | |
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2012-08-22, 19:10 | Link #1672 |
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The problem with juggling analogy is the no-hand rule in Kemari and the object used is a round ball and not some random object.
As such, IMO, it is still closer to soccer than your typical juggling which don't have the no-hand rule and is not of entertainment/showing purpose. Keep in mind that passing of the ball is also part of Kemari and it is a multi-players sport. And while Kemari in Japan didn't evolve to have a score keeping, in China, where Kemari is from did ended up with some sort of team competition with score-keeping and goal keeper during the Tang Dynasty (around 600-900AD) before that version (Cu-ju/Tsu' Chu) disappeared by 1700s. BTW, Cu-ju(or Tsu' Chu, depending on romanization) is acknowledged by FIFA as a form of ancient soccer/football even in it's earliest form during Han Dynasty in 3rd centry B.C. Since Kemari is a direct descendant of that, by association, it wasn't a bad comparison to say the Kemari is a form of soccer minus the scoring concept. FIFA's History of Football webpage: http://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/...torygame1.html But I do agree with the Hot-Potato analogy, even though Kemari involves more skill and athletic ability than that simple game.
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Though we are getting ahead of ourselves, I think there will be a couple of more volumes before Honnō-ji occurs. Right now we are at Matsunaga Hisahide at vol 9. |
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And we still don't know if clans like Tachibana, Shimada, or Chosokabe will appear or not.
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2012-08-22, 21:01 | Link #1680 |
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Okay, volume 6, let's go.
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And that's all for summaries. The Chinese translation of Vol 7 is nowhere near done, and I have no idea if it's even ongoing. Vol 8 and on haven't even started, so I doubt they'll be done anytime soon. Thus, this is the last summary out of me that you'll be seeing for a while... |
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