(CR) Gokukoku no Brynhildr

[IceHism]

I'm not the only one who thinks having to take death suppressants or else you melt to death is one of the dumbest mechanics ever right?

[~Yami~]

oh gawd..... Kuroneko is splattering!!!! NOOOO!!!

I'm glad to see Kuroneko is confirmed alive...
however, their fate are too sad...
Up to this point, I believe Murakami won't be able to save the girls with only his brain...
He have to give some more special powers

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by IceHism

I'm not the only one who thinks having to take death suppressants or else you melt to death is one of the dumbest mechanics ever right?

It's a control mechanism. Even if one of these dangerous individuals (and they are dangerous) were to go rogue, that serves as a last-ditch method of stopping them from being to keep wreaking havoc as they might want. Even if the people who created them weren't an evil organization, it would make sense to have some means of control like that (of course, if the ogranzation wasn't evil they wouldn't be working with real people as their "weapons" either, but still. A safety precaution that, no matter what happens, the "tools" cannot get far or cause too much damage is simply common sense). Their very survival depends on a drug that can't be bought, can't be duplicated, and can only be acquired from their "makers." It is not the first time a work of fiction has used that plot point as a means of controlling super-soldiers.

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

It's a control mechanism. Even if one of these dangerous individuals (and they are dangerous) were to go rogue, that serves as a last-ditch method of stopping them from being to keep wreaking havoc as they might want. Even if the people who created them weren't an evil organization, it would make sense to have some means of control like that (of course, if the ogranzation wasn't evil they wouldn't be working with real people as their "weapons" either, but still. A safety precaution that, no matter what happens, the "tools" cannot get far or cause too much damage is simply common sense). Their very survival depends on a drug that can't be bought, can't be duplicated, and can only be acquired from their "makers." It is not the first time a work of fiction has used that plot point as a means of controlling super-soldiers.

Well yea i get that but I'm just not really a fan of the way they do it in this i guess.

[SPARTAN 119]

Originally Posted by IceHism

I'm not the only one who thinks having to take death suppressants or else you melt to death is one of the dumbest mechanics ever right?

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

It's a control mechanism. Even if one of these dangerous individuals (and they are dangerous) were to go rogue, that serves as a last-ditch method of stopping them from being to keep wreaking havoc as they might want. Even if the people who created them weren't an evil organization, it would make sense to have some means of control like that (of course, if the ogranzation wasn't evil they wouldn't be working with real people as their "weapons" either, but still. A safety precaution that, no matter what happens, the "tools" cannot get far or cause too much damage is simply common sense). Their very survival depends on a drug that can't be bought, can't be duplicated, and can only be acquired from their "makers." It is not the first time a work of fiction has used that plot point as a means of controlling super-soldiers.

While I generally liked the anime so far, as well as the manga, and I do get why they implemented this system, I have to agree with IceHism on this one. There are far more realistic control mechanisms, even in Okamoto's own manga, case and point, in Elfen Lied, one of the diclonius was controlled using a bomb implanted in her body. Now you could still have the whole drug system, but instead of the disintegration, they could simply die. If you did that, along with implementing a less conspicuous (no implant in the neck) control system, it would actually make more sense as it could be passed off to local authorities as sudden cardiac arrest or something, and then they could simply covertly remove the body from the morgue for disposal.

[Aogami]

Originally Posted by SPARTAN 119

While I generally liked the anime so far, as well as the manga, and I do get why they implemented this system, I have to agree with IceHism on this one. There are far more realistic control mechanisms, even in Okamoto's own manga, case and point, in Elfen Lied, one of the diclonius was controlled using a bomb implanted in her body. Now you could still have the whole drug system, but instead of the disintegration, they could simply die. If you did that, along with implementing a less conspicuous (no implant in the neck) control system, it would actually make more sense as it could be passed off to local authorities as sudden cardiac arrest or something, and then they could simply covertly remove the body from the morgue for disposal.

It seems the negativity over this is the fact that they melt instead of simply keeling over but there is a specific reason as to why they melt but won't say anymore to avoid spoilers.

[DragoonKain3]

Now why couldn't they have ended episode 2 with Kuroneko in wraps? That was the perfect cliffhanger for that episode

But now, Bryhildr is back with a vengeance. I especially loved the mole reveal, where one one hand, he is happy now has confirmation that Kuroneko was his osananajimi all along. On the other, I actually felt despair from the reveal because that pretty much sets him on track to help Kuroneko with every ounce of power within him.

And Kuroneko dead? Nah, I doubt she'd die 3 episodes in.

[Benigmatica]

Witches needs drugs to live, witches loses memories when using magic? Damn, that's so harsh for them.

Still, I wonder if that third button on their Hahnest can turn them into abominations? I mean, Kuroha said that the third button is worse than death.

[TheSpoilerAlert]

That cliffhanger!!!!! I don't know what to think of that >_<

BUT

Spoiler for Ep 3 Ending:

It was good to know that Neko is the girl from his past. Too bad she splattered all over the wall

[Arya]

Originally Posted by MgMaster

Can't say I'm fond of "killing off" main characters so early,because you know for sure they aren't really dead or that they'll get revived somehow which takes a away a lot of the impact from the supposed death. It's not that I want them to be killed but more like I'd rather not have it done in the first place. Otherwise,good episode as usual. I'm liking this show a lot.

Also,I found the fact that Kuroha's moles changed spots because her boobs grew pretty hilarious.

Same here, I don't like killing characters off when you know that they can't die (yet) because it's too early in the story. As you said it nullifies the impact it should deliver.

I also agree with the moles part. If you meant it in that way. Didn't like the idea when someone mentioned this possibility earlier and I still don't like it very much. But it could be bound to the fact that I was hoping she was Not neko in the end, plot wise. But being a 13 ep. series I was already quite sure she was, but still

Originally Posted by SPARTAN 119

While I generally liked the anime so far, as well as the manga, and I do get why they implemented this system, I have to agree with IceHism on this one. There are far more realistic control mechanisms, even in Okamoto's own manga, case and point, in Elfen Lied, one of the diclonius was controlled using a bomb implanted in her body. Now you could still have the whole drug system, but instead of the disintegration, they could simply die. If you did that, along with implementing a less conspicuous (no implant in the neck) control system, it would actually make more sense as it could be passed off to local authorities as sudden cardiac arrest or something, and then they could simply covertly remove the body from the morgue for disposal.

Despite I'm also not very fond of this pills system, I can see why this has not been implemented to kill instantly off the victim. It should be more proficient in this way. If a witch escapes and runs out of pills she had a whole 35 hour of despair before dying. 35 hours during which said witch could change her mind and decide to live going back to the lab. So the lab would have not lose one of its tools.
That's clearly not the case of our witches who were intended to be terminated.

Anyways, the episode was was ok, but a bit over the place. I didn't like much the sudden collapse of everything. Mixed with the a bit clichéd part of the memory loss. Probably I need to watch it again. In any case a kuroha covered by blood is always welcome Less welcome if splattered on the ground.

[Guido]

Almost ten years ago, I formed part Elfen Lied discussion thread in the AnimeSuki forums. Back then, I was a newbie member with too much spare time to chat, idle, and read the contents in the forums.

Here am I, starting coverage to Okamoto-sensei 's latest work Gokukoku no Brynildr, because I owe him the work he did for Elfen Lied. Unlike the latter, Brynhildr doesn't start with a bloody bang but with a flashback revolving around two childhood friends, and from there the plot moves quickly: the little girl dies in the fall and the protagonist boy survives with grief and guilt over causing his friend's demise.
Flash forward to 10 years later into the plot, and the boy now in his teens tries to keep with the promise to his deceased friend about proving the existence of aliens, and much to his surprise a student gets transferred into his school looking as the spitting image of his dead friend only a grown-up teen of his same age and sporting none of the moles below her left armpit as his friend used to have.

Top it all that the mysterious Kuroha Neko possess formidable powers and strength which is enough for the protagonist have his whole world thrown out of balance at attempting to make sense of what's really going on.

Obviously, the mood, aura, atmosphere, and setting do not live up to the standards the ARMS once bestowed upon Elfen Lied, and which is a shame, IMO. Secondly, any potential build-up for tension is killed off because the use of flashbacks in the first episode was too much and let it on to things that were preferably left hanging in the shadows for latter episodes.
Finally, Ryouta bothers me with that attitude of his at trying to overanalyze everything to make sense out of his situation.

We have thus far a girl with, seems to be, psychic powers and strength to boot. She refered herself to Ryota as being a magician, and not forgetting Ryota is let down with despair once observing that Kuroha doesn't sport any of the moles below her left armpit that Kuroneko used to have, hence, seems that Kuroneko is really dead for sure in terms of Ryota's grief and plot purposes.

[Tiberium Wolf]

Originally Posted by SPARTAN 119

While I generally liked the anime so far, as well as the manga, and I do get why they implemented this system, I have to agree with IceHism on this one. There are far more realistic control mechanisms, even in Okamoto's own manga, case and point, in Elfen Lied, one of the diclonius was controlled using a bomb implanted in her body. Now you could still have the whole drug system, but instead of the disintegration, they could simply die. If you did that, along with implementing a less conspicuous (no implant in the neck) control system, it would actually make more sense as it could be passed off to local authorities as sudden cardiac arrest or something, and then they could simply covertly remove the body from the morgue for disposal.

I don't quite agree. Disintegration is better since you leave much less or none evidence. If authorities would get the body there is a chance of the secrets getting out.

[ReddyRedWolf]

The whole Witches thing is a bunch of BS fed to them by the organization. They are artificial biological weapons.

Question is if Kuroneko was telling the truth about aliens that this evil organization caught her and turned her to a weapon.

[AC-Phoenix]

Assuming she is actually Kuraneko and not a Clone then she either

-) Died back then and was regenerated the same way she is going to be
-) Took that Death surpressant and her otherwise lethal wounds healed within a few minutes which is one of the two reasons he was told she is dead.

- Reason 1: It was an easy way to not have to kill him
- Reason 2 : Everyone would have wondeed how she went out o such a fall without even a scratch.

So yeah it was actually good they fell down there, because this also solves kuroneko's 'Alien' mystery. Those long tubes where either the entrance to the pharmaceutical lab or the place where she lived and seemingly escaped from on a daily basis.

[GundamZZ]

So far, we don't know what happend after they fell into the dam. The boy survived the fall without any side effect. The girl was reported dead. No funeral was held. It's as they are saving this part for later revelation.

Originally Posted by Guido

Almost ten years ago, I formed part Elfen Lied discussion thread in the AnimeSuki forums. Back then, I was a newbie member with too much spare time to chat, idle, and read the contents in the forums.
oses.

I guess someone is gonna compare this show to Okamoto's first work. I rememer someone mentioned the backstory of that show. It was said Okamot was broke. He could not buy many stuffs. Maybe it was why he wrote the tragic story. The sale of Elfin Lied enabled him to buy IPod or some music player. The anime sale of Elfin Lied flopped, but it was very famous. I think his other work(collaboration with another mangaka) is more fun to read. I think the story he really wanted to make is Nononono. Again, the backstory of Olymic Athletes is boring. Even he added many comedic element, the manga was slashed in the midway(It still the longest running manga in his career so far).

In comparison, Gokukoku no Brynhildr is more light hearted. So far, the current mystery and suspense is played right. My interpretation of their suppression pill is preventing these test subjects from explosion. They started bleed when the pill's effect worn out. It is as they are living in the outer space. The lack of external pressure force will injured them.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by GundamZZ

In comparison, Gokukoku no Brynhildr is more light hearted. So far, the current mystery and suspense is played right. My interpretation of their suppression pill is preventing these test subjects from explosion. They started bleed when the pill's effect worn out. It is as they are living in the outer space. The lack of external pressure force will injured them.

I would say, judging from Neko's description, that what happens when they run out of time is the same was what happens when they are "ejected:" their bodies liquify. Ejecting simply forces it to happen immediately as a kill-switch, rather than slowly as the supressing drug wears off.

[IceHism]

Hmm, i don't see anything glaring with episode 3. Though it is kind of obvious that none of the main characters are gonna die right now.

Though i have to say, the elfen lied similarities are strong. Hopefully this show executes it better than Elfen Lied did.

[EroKing]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

The whole Witches thing is a bunch of BS fed to them by the organization. They are artificial biological weapons.

Maybe they are called Witches because they die by melting? Evil scientists with their sense of humor

[Ii_chan]

why guinea pig here is girl only?

if you want to build super soldier, i think man is right choice.

and they're experiment with human, especially girl.


i think the objective of laboratory who made this witch is very questionable.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Ii_chan

why guinea pig here is girl only?

Because it's a harem series.