(CR) Hunter X Hunter Anime (2011)

[frubam]

Originally Posted by Shiro

Bringing in Hidehiko Sawada to work on Hisoka's scene was a good choice. That was some smooth animation.

Indeed =03. This gives me high hopes as to how the fights are going to be when they get animated.

[Toto y Moi]

Spoiler for Hunter x Hunter Episode 10 Comparison:

There isn't too much different between versions. Episode 10 covers chapters 19 and 15 pages of 20. It corresponds to the last few minutes of episode 14 and all of episode 15 in the 1999 series. Episode 15 has fantastic art and decent animation in the Nippon Animation version.

To begin, Leroute isn't the one who gets into the gambling match with Leorio. Despite being jailed for trafficking endangered species and illegal gambling, Bendot takes over for Leroute in the 1999 series. There's no real reason--at first I thought it was in order to mask Leroute's voice, but you hear it in episode 15 before the robes are discarded.


Though this doesn't make an appearance until the latter half of episode 15 in the original series, you see it right as Leroute appears in the manga and 2011 series. Leroute, while bending over to check Majitani, drops a note. This can be seen in both the 2011 series and the manga. Since Bendot takes over, the 1999 series has it so every prisoner can talk to Majitani via his earpiece being a radio device and a transmitter being in their handcuffs. Sedokan somehow made it in prison.


It's pretty funny how nonchalantly Killua talks about death. He and Gon have slightly changed lines in this version. In the manga and 2011 series, Killua says that Kurapika should try not to be too selfish (without seemingly holding anything against him). In the 1999 series, Killua directly calls Kurapika "self-absorbed."


I've mentioned that I don't like Gon's characterization in episode 14--this is no different. He comes across as too childish. Instead of agreeing with Killua and Kurapika, pointing out the fact that Majitani was on the verge of surrender, the 1999 incarnation of Gon only takes away that Kurapika doesn't want to kill Majitani because he's not one of the Phantom Troupe. He isn't very observant. This comes into play in a later scene.


So Leorio gets mad that no one is taking him seriously and starts sulking. Tonpa does his inner monologue about the trap of their path. As we're still in episode 14, Gon's characterization is still screwed up. He doesn't allow Leorio to be by himself. For some reason, in the 1999 series after Leorio tells Gon to leave him alone, Gon invades Leorio's personal space and starts stretching right next to him...just because. Tonpa suddenly loses forty pounds in the manga.


Togari (his name in the Madhouse version) shows up. I mentioned in my comparison for episode 7 that the fighting styles in the Nippon Animation version are somewhat different from the manga's. In the Nippon Animation version, Togari spins his knives like a frisbee. He twirls them with his hands in the manga and 2011 series. Also, he only throws his blades like chakram in the 1999 series, whereas in the other versions he is simultaneously a close range and long range fighter. He employs a hit-and-run strategy.



This scene is so cool in the Madhouse version. Nicely done. For what it's worth, this is the first time that viewers see blood in the Nippon Animation version. Though Hisoka only gets cut in one place instead of two, like the other versions.



Hisoka's awesome. But we already knew that.



Togari's death is different between versions.

He gets decapitated in the manga and 2011 series. The Nippon Animation version implies that he does at first, but that red bar that covers half the screen isn't blood--it's censorship. After that scene, we find Togari presumably dead on the ground. But he's woundless. Hisoka covers up his scar immediately, so perhaps he sliced Togari's neck and covered it up for some reason.


By the way, Hisoka finishes the Trick tower in different amounts of time. In the manga and 2011 series, 6 hours and 17 minutes. He takes 12 hours in the 1999 series.

So there's another difference in characterization with Gon, though not nearly as annoying as the prior ones. In the 2011 series and manga, Gon is the first to realize that Majitani might be dead and points it out to Killua. In the 1999 series, Killua notices and Gon is the one who is surprised.


The rest of the episode is mostly the same, with Bendot switched in for Leroute. Leorio actually drops Majitani in this version, despite not doing it in the original.



Though the 1999 series sees the ending of the episode as an opportunity to ship Kurapika and Leorio. Leorio's teammates are silent in the manga/2011 series. Quote:

"Kurapika. I've dealt with the aftermath of your pride."
"Leorio...<3"


Next week should be special.

[rinichan]

Originally Posted by Toto y Moi

Spoiler for Hunter x Hunter Episode 10 Comparison:

There isn't too much different between versions. Episode 10 covers chapters 19 and 15 pages of 20. It corresponds to the last few minutes of episode 14 and all of episode 15 in the 1999 series. Episode 15 has fantastic art and decent animation in the Nippon Animation version.

To begin, Leroute isn't the one who gets into the gambling match with Leorio. Despite being jailed for trafficking endangered species and illegal gambling, Bendot takes over for Leroute in the 1999 series. There's no real reason--at first I thought it was in order to mask Leroute's voice, but you hear it in episode 15 before the robes are discarded.


Though this doesn't make an appearance until the latter half of episode 15 in the original series, you see it right as Leroute appears in the manga and 2011 series. Leroute, while bending over to check Majitani, drops a note. This can be seen in both the 2011 series and the manga. Since Bendot takes over, the 1999 series has it so every prisoner can talk to Majitani via his earpiece being a radio device and a transmitter being in their handcuffs. Sedokan somehow made it in prison.


It's pretty funny how nonchalantly Killua talks about death. He and Gon have slightly changed lines in this version. In the manga and 2011 series, Killua says that Kurapika should try not to be too selfish (without seemingly holding anything against him). In the 1999 series, Killua directly calls Kurapika "self-absorbed."


I've mentioned that I don't like Gon's characterization in episode 14--this is no different. He comes across as too childish. Instead of agreeing with Killua and Kurapika, pointing out the fact that Majitani was on the verge of surrender, the 1999 incarnation of Gon only takes away that Kurapika doesn't want to kill Majitani because he's not one of the Phantom Troupe. He isn't very observant. This comes into play in a later scene.


So Leorio gets mad that no one is taking him seriously and starts sulking. Tonpa does his inner monologue about the trap of their path. As we're still in episode 14, Gon's characterization is still screwed up. He doesn't allow Leorio to be by himself. For some reason, in the 1999 series after Leorio tells Gon to leave him alone, Gon invades Leorio's personal space and starts stretching right next to him...just because. Tonpa suddenly loses forty pounds in the manga.


Togari (his name in the Madhouse version) shows up. I mentioned in my comparison for episode 7 that the fighting styles in the Nippon Animation version are somewhat different from the manga's. In the Nippon Animation version, Togari spins his knives like a frisbee. He twirls them with his hands in the manga and 2011 series. Also, he only throws his blades like chakram in the 1999 series, whereas in the other versions he is simultaneously a close range and long range fighter. He employs a hit-and-run strategy.



This scene is so cool in the Madhouse version. Nicely done. For what it's worth, this is the first time that viewers see blood in the Nippon Animation version. Though Hisoka only gets cut in one place instead of two, like the other versions.



Hisoka's awesome. But we already knew that.



Togari's death is different between versions.

He gets decapitated in the manga and 2011 series. The Nippon Animation version implies that he does at first, but that red bar that covers half the screen isn't blood--it's censorship. After that scene, we find Togari presumably dead on the ground. But he's woundless. Hisoka covers up his scar immediately, so perhaps he sliced Togari's neck and covered it up for some reason.


By the way, Hisoka finishes the Trick tower in different amounts of time. In the manga and 2011 series, 6 hours and 17 minutes. He takes 12 hours in the 1999 series.

So there's another difference in characterization with Gon, though not nearly as annoying as the prior ones. In the 2011 series and manga, Gon is the first to realize that Majitani might be dead and points it out to Killua. In the 1999 series, Killua notices and Gon is the one who is surprised.


The rest of the episode is mostly the same, with Bendot switched in for Leroute. Leorio actually drops Majitani in this version, despite not doing it in the original.



Though the 1999 series sees the ending of the episode as an opportunity to ship Kurapika and Leorio. Leorio's teammates are silent in the manga/2011 series. Quote:

"Kurapika. I've dealt with the aftermath of your pride."
"Leorio...<3"


Next week should be special.

thanks been waiting for this, yes youre right next week will be special. looking forward for next weeks review.

[zeniselv]

wow this week episode was great, im amazed hot they did the killua figth, its less graphical but more cruel, also it makes kill to see more pro.

Spoiler for also:

toto comparison made me remember how in the old series implied a lot that kurapika migth be a girl in disguise.

[NJZanDatsu]

Pretty good episode. The only thing i'm disappointed about is that Killua didn't crush the heart in hands. But it was handled well for it's time slot, and i'm happy they showed a good chunk of blood in this episode

[Goty]

Pretty disappointing episode this week. Too much was edited out, like Jones' story and what he did to the cop's arm - the original anime was way more graphic and covered it all.

[rinichan]

Originally Posted by zeniselv

Spoiler for also:

toto comparison made me remember how in the old series implied a lot that kurapika migth be a girl in disguise.

That's why I LOLed so hard at that anime series (for someone like me who follow the manga)....

Originally Posted by Goty

Pretty disappointing episode this week. Too much was edited out, like Jones' story and what he did to the cop's arm - the original anime was way more graphic and covered it all.

Well because this version is in mid day how else will go censor it if not change some things(?) That's why I wanted this remake to be in latemid if you really like more detailed blood and violence. Chimera Ant arc should definetly get that time slot if ever they continue till there....

Well anyway I love how they censored ep 11

Spoiler for heartless:

they wrap Janus heart in a cloth . nice censorship. I thought theyre gonna use the shadow thingy style. But I guess I miss the portion when in the 99 series Killua crushed his heat. Cant wait for reviews....

I guess more rage will come from the old 99 fans (I'm part of that generation but...), so far I am happy even they censored this anime...

[NJZanDatsu]

That cloth was part of the Mr. Johness the Dissector's shirt.

[zeniselv]

you have to consider that even if the old series showed the heart and it beign crushed , it was just a black shadow, i still think this makes killua look like a profesional, also its not just the timeslot, nowadays we get a lot more censorship than in the 90's, but i can see the concern in the future arcs with censorship(this manga is gorier than a lot of seinens out there).

[Megiddo]

A black shadow?

It's obviously a heart. Heck, I took a screenshot from my DVDs.

Spoiler:

That cannot be considering anything other than a heart. There's no stupid bag or anything.

[zeniselv]

thats a black shadow of a hearth, also jones had black blood in t in his chest he old series too, but i think of showing the heart in eveloped in part of his shirt was quite clever.

[Belial13]

damn the censoring.. would prefer a black shadow out of nowhere if it was uncensored on the dvd, this can't be uncensored tho

[Gooral]

Old anime handled this way better, not only the hart was shown, also Killua crushing it with a smile on his face too. In this version Killua is a saint compared to the old.

Spoiler for comparison:

[Squarecrow]

I like that he didn't crush it and just taunted Mr. Mass Murderer with it.

[Kirarakim]

I would hardly call Killua a "saint" in this episode

Actually I liked the effect of the beating heart suddenly going silent. It was quietly powerful!

But my favorite part was after the whole thing Gon & Killua were like let's look for some entertainment. I love those kids.

[kakakka]

The thread becomes very lively again.

LOL

[Clarste]

Personally, I like the new version better. Having it slowly stop beating gives a sense of powerlessness to the scene. And dropping it in his hand afterwards gives a bit more taunting "playing with his prey" feel.

I don't really care whether it was wrapped in cloth or not, it's still obviously a heart.

[rinichan]

Originally Posted by Gooral

Old anime handled this way better, not only the hart was shown, also Killua crushing it with a smile on his face too. In this version Killua is a saint compared to the old.

Spoiler for comparison:

I agree with this, I prefer the 99version of this part than todays version. But we cant blame 2011 version since its in mid day while 99 version has the 6:30pm timeslot before... I wish they change timeslot. I know that is possible since Hxh 2011 is rating.. But I guess its too late cause since September issue of WSJ they said they already animated till Celestial Tower Arc...

Ah censorship...

[Gooral]

Originally Posted by rinichan

I agree with this, I prefer the 99version of this part than todays version. But we cant blame 2011 version since its in mid day while 99 version has the 6:30pm timeslot before... I wish they change timeslot. I know that is possible since Hxh 2011 is rating.. But I guess its too late cause since September issue of WSJ they said they already animated till Celestial Tower Arc...

Ah censorship...

These scenes are still rather mild but when chimera ant arc starts non-manga readers won't even know what ants do to humans unless it would be said by a narrator. By trying to please everyone this anime fails IMO. It should either be as faithful to the manga as possible or censored in a way kids could watch it. Now it's too brutal for kids and to ridiculous to adults. If new anime can't even match to old anime than I fail to see the purpose of re-making it.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by Squarecrow

I like that he didn't crush it and just taunted Mr. Mass Murderer with it.

This. Smiling and "returning" the heart to Johness is way more chilling than simply crushing it.