Persona 4 The Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena

[FlareKnight]

I have to say this really does work as a nice continuation after beating Persona 4. Though now I'm still left waiting for some sort of sequel to this thing.

[darkchibi07]

Originally Posted by Nerroth

Not that I noticed; I think it was an online update only.

What?!! That's a load of crap!

It would have been awesome to see the online reactions of seeing Persona 4 related on cable TV.

[Mr. Wang]

I love this game, and since it's forum topic seems to be active again, I want to raise a question.

I've seen this question asked on a couple game forums, but I've never seen a straight answer, nor an odd case like mine. Does anyone know what is the basis behind the online ranking system?

I was fighting a B- ranked cheap player who spammed the same combo over and over again which attacked high and then low making my blocks useless, and there was nothing I could do about it, and they ended up getting a perfect on me. The next two rounds, I manage to find a way around the combo, and then beat them and won the match.

Then after winning, I saw that I went from an E+ to a D-, which is 5 ranks down from what I started on that match! Maybe it's the Perfect they got on me, but how to do you rank down so severely after winning? Ranking down in online play of fighting games doesn't normally bother me, but rather the absurdity of this scenario puzzles me.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wang

I love this game, and since it's forum topic seems to be active again, I want to raise a question.

I've seen this question asked on a couple game forums, but I've never seen a straight answer, nor an odd case like mine. Does anyone know what is the basis behind the online ranking system?

I was fighting a B- ranked cheap player who spammed the same combo over and over again which attacked high and then low making my blocks useless, and there was nothing I could do about it, and they ended up getting a perfect on me. The next two rounds, I manage to find a way around the combo, and then beat them and won the match.

Then after winning, I saw that I went from an E+ to a D-, which is 5 ranks down from what I started on that match! Maybe it's the Perfect they got on me, but how to do you rank down so severely after winning? Ranking down in online play of fighting games doesn't normally bother me, but rather the absurdity of this scenario puzzles me.

I'm confused... how is D- five ranks lower than E+?

[Kirito]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wang

I love this game, and since it's forum topic seems to be active again, I want to raise a question.

I've seen this question asked on a couple game forums, but I've never seen a straight answer, nor an odd case like mine. Does anyone know what is the basis behind the online ranking system?

I was fighting a B- ranked cheap player who spammed the same combo over and over again which attacked high and then low making my blocks useless, and there was nothing I could do about it, and they ended up getting a perfect on me. The next two rounds, I manage to find a way around the combo, and then beat them and won the match.

Then after winning, I saw that I went from an E+ to a D-, which is 5 ranks down from what I started on that match! Maybe it's the Perfect they got on me, but how to do you rank down so severely after winning? Ranking down in online play of fighting games doesn't normally bother me, but rather the absurdity of this scenario puzzles me.

Going from E+ to D- actually means you've ranked up by one level, which is a good thing. How online ranking works is how many victories you earn against players your rank or higher. Playing players below your rank won't raise it at all.

For me, and I'm sure many others, had to win 2-3 straight games and the next match will be rank up and you have to win it to raise your rank. Oh yes, if you lose 2-3 to players your own grade or lower you'll get a rank down warning. If you lose your rank will go down by one.

The online ranking goes, I think. Just bear with me.

Spoiler for Persona 4 Arena Ranking System:

F-
F
F+
E-
E
E+
D-
D
D+
C-
C
C+
B-
B
B+
A-
A
A+
S
S+
SS
SSS
Master
Grand Master

F being the lowest, start from there to understand. Well, I hope this helps.

[Mr. Wang]

Well, that makes a good deal of sense then. Much more sense than what I was trying to think of. Thanks, Kirito. I'll take note of this next time I go online, check to see the pattern going on.

[Tong]

Confirmed for evo 2013.

[sikvod00]

^ MrWizardSRK totally trolled people with the stream announcement of P4 at EVO. I'm certainly surprised it made it.

[Frailty]

Originally Posted by Tong

Confirmed for evo 2013.

interesting

[Kirito]

Originally Posted by Tong

Confirmed for evo 2013.

Can't wait! The tourney for that game is going to be hype as hell!

[Frailty]

to the European Players who's still patiently waiting
to those of you who still gives a damn XD

P4U will reach Europe on May 10th with pre-order bonuses.

welp, better late than never~

[FlareKnight]

I guess they are really testing the saying "better late than never."

[Dextro]

Originally Posted by Frailty

to the European Players who's still patiently waiting
to those of you who still gives a damn XD

P4U will reach Europe on May 10th with pre-order bonuses.

welp, better late than never~

Hum... An OST hum? I may bite but I feel conflicted supporting the company. The delay was gigantic and completely killed the justification for the region locking in the first place (that prevented me from importing) :-\

[jb8]

Originally Posted by Dextro

Hum... An OST hum? I may bite but I feel conflicted supporting the company. The delay was gigantic and completely killed the justification for the region locking in the first place (that prevented me from importing) :-\

You shouldn't support such a practice period. Give an inch and they take a mile.

Would you want to experience this again once Super P4A comes out? (it's arcsys after all)

[defki]

Blame Index for the region lock. Reverse importing my ass.

Will buy this used. They won't see a cent from me.

[Tong]

Nice Option Select Atlus

Don't buy the game:
-Poor sales might stop future european releases from coming
Buy the game:
-Support this travesty

Well played.

[Dextro]

Originally Posted by Tong

Nice Option Select Atlus

Don't buy the game:
-Poor sales might stop future european releases from coming
Buy the game:
-Support this travesty

Well played.

It's always like this. It's always a lose-lose scenario for the fans. Don't buy the game and they'll blame "pirates" for the lack of sales. Buy the game and they'll think that their consumer-hostile attitude is working and they should double down on them. There's no way a fan can win this. It's like talking to a wall.

[jb8]

Originally Posted by kayos

Arcsys had nothing to do with the region lock. Decision came from Atlus JP.

But they did make the game and are known for sequelitis. A super P4A is all but inevitable given it's success in Japan.

Hence my point: why would you want to go through the same thing again? Regardless it's quite a dilemma b/w choosing to support a game for future sequels vs bad business practices.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by jb8

But they did make the game and are known for sequelitis. A super P4A is all but inevitable given it's success in Japan.

I think that has more to do with the fact that fighting games have to be updated often to keep up with the balance and community.

With that said, I don't think P4A is getting updated soon since ArcSys is busy with their Blazblue series right now. Even if they do update P4A, it's quite possible that it'll just be a balance patch like before. They don't necessarily need to release a sequel or revised edition since Blazblue is their main focus.

[jb8]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

I think that has more to do with the fact that fighting games have to be updated often to keep up with the balance and community.

With that said, I don't think P4A is getting updated soon since ArcSys is busy with their Blazblue series right now. Even if they do update P4A, it's quite possible that it'll just be a balance patch like before. They don't necessarily need to release a sequel or revised edition since Blazblue is their main focus.

Having a sequel isn't the problem. It's the baggage that comes with the previous game and how it could influence future sequels.

Atlus Japan shouldn't be let off the hook for their practices just like any other company.

Since Arcsys is busy working on BBCP, a patch would likely be released as early as Winter 2013. That would make it over a year since release. That's not feasible given Microsoft's/Sony's poor patching policies. They'd be taking a loss for almost no gain. In addition, the PS4/Durango is coming up and what better way to test the waters than using one of the most successful fighters in Japan currently.

It just makes no sense to release a patch this late in the game. Arcsys is the same company that released a balanced patch of GG as a full game (though great), released Extend with only one additional character, and announced CP just before P4A hit store shelves. It's inevitable that Super P4A, or whatever it'll be called, will be a new game given their history, as well as complaints about the previous game *cough* more characters *cough* that can't be solved with just a patch.

Again nothing wrong with that as the game was a hit in Japan, it's what atlus JP will do that's the scary part.