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H23 · 2009-04-10, 15:03

How did kakashi pull off a chidori with no handseals? =o

Alchemist007 · 2009-04-10, 15:13

He never used hand seals for that move. Just like Rasengan (not counting Naruto's clone help, you're supposed to be able to do that with one hand like Jiraiya).

Ashura3 · 2009-04-10, 15:55

Hand seals have definitely been used for Chidori before, both by Kakashi (see his use of it against Zabuza) and by Sasuke (see his use of it against Gaara).

Alchemist007 · 2009-04-10, 18:57

oh, then 1337H4X/plot hole. Or perhaps its a similar thing to not using chants for the hadous in Bleach.

neshru · 2009-04-10, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Ashura3

Hand seals have definitely been used for Chidori before, both by Kakashi (see his use of it against Zabuza) and by Sasuke (see his use of it against Gaara).

I don't think he ever used hand seals for that technique in Shippuuden. Just like Kabuto doesn't use hand seals to activate his chakra hands anymore.

naruske · 2009-04-10, 20:15

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Originally Posted by neshru

I don't think he ever used hand seals for that technique in Shippuuden. Just like Kabuto doesn't use hand seals to activate his chakra hands anymore.

he did. i remember when he was trying to tell naruto about combining elemental with compositional ..

neshru · 2009-04-10, 20:23

Hm, right. Then I guess the animators just get lazy sometimes

edit: Maybe Chidori (that's what he showed Naruto in episode 55) requires hand seals, while Raikiri (the version of Chidori he usually uses in combat) does not.

BlackDove · 2009-04-11, 07:09

When they don't do the hand seals, it means they do it too fast for anyone to see. Hence, master of technique, etc.

Kakashi says it himself when he fights Itachi way back in the first one - how he does the seals so fast he can't even track them with his Sharingan.

kuroSaki_Ichi · 2009-04-11, 15:24

meh, i just want this to be over and get started on some sasuke screen time XD. The villians are pretty gay.. like come on...the water dude was just creepy lol.

Sasuke_Bateman · 2009-04-12, 09:31

:/ so boring, Tobi made it funny

king12354 · 2009-04-12, 14:07

Sigh...

Spoiler for Sasuke's 3d plane reversing jutsu!:

Supermutant · 2009-04-14, 19:33

I'm glad that everyone else thought that these episodes were great too. So much was going on. Little stuff like Shino still smarting over Naruto's ignorance, the action, the Akatsuki appearing, and the big stuff like Guren revelation. (Which had kind of been hinted at I think...)

The story is at least somewhat tied into the main plot through the three tails, (Like how the last filler was at least somewhat tied in through Naruto's elemental learning) but the story's big success is that it's multi-faceted nature, (Even the thugs have depth) use of less utilized characters, and big stakes makes it interesting and gives it some emotional resonance even if it can't be a crucial plot development.

Guren is a fun character, and there's good odds she might end up dead at the end. So something's at stake at least.

MafiaSoldier · 2009-04-15, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Supermutant

I'm glad that everyone else thought that these episodes were great too. So much was going on. Little stuff like Shino still smarting over Naruto's ignorance, the action, the Akatsuki appearing, and the big stuff like Guren revelation. (Which had kind of been hinted at I think...)

The story is at least somewhat tied into the main plot through the three tails, (Like how the last filler was at least somewhat tied in through Naruto's elemental learning) but the story's big success is that it's multi-faceted nature, (Even the thugs have depth) use of less utilized characters, and big stakes makes it interesting and gives it some emotional resonance even if it can't be a crucial plot development.

Guren is a fun character, and there's good odds she might end up dead at the end. So something's at stake at least.

They were great, and the Guren revelation was kind of a neat twist, I really hope her and Yuukimaru end up being able to live their lives together and she can help raise him, but I feel like she is gonna be whacked soon.

Guardi · 2009-04-17, 04:50

Are my standards too high here?
You know when i watch Naruto i want some good animated action with at least some good designed villains. In this filler arc the design of the villains was just ridiculous. It looked like it came from the 80s. Just plain stupid, cliched and well... ridiculous. Except the design of guren, which was just ok. We dont really need to talk about the animation qualitiy...

Have you all forgotten the good times of Naruto? These good times were by far superior to the shit were seeing now. I cant take that anymore...

MafiaSoldier · 2009-04-19, 13:16

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Originally Posted by Guardi

Are my standards too high here?
You know when i watch Naruto i want some good animated action with at least some good designed villains. In this filler arc the design of the villains was just ridiculous. It looked like it came from the 80s. Just plain stupid, cliched and well... ridiculous. Except the design of guren, which was just ok. We dont really need to talk about the animation qualitiy...

Have you all forgotten the good times of Naruto? These good times were by far superior to the shit were seeing now. I cant take that anymore...

Thats all relative to your tastes, some may dislike the current stuff, but some (me included) may enjoy it. It's all a mater of opinion I suppose......

Guido · 2009-04-19, 16:34

Again, I got left behind.

Basically the gist for episode 103 was:

Spoiler:

Guido · 2009-04-26, 19:08

With the developments that transpired in episode 104 it seems that this original arc has begun to give off the first signs towards its conclusion.

Spoiler:

2009-04-10, 15:03	Link #21
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Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	He never used hand seals for that move. Just like Rasengan (not counting Naruto's clone help, you're supposed to be able to do that with one hand like Jiraiya). __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

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2009-04-10, 20:23	Link #27
neshru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Hm, right. Then I guess the animators just get lazy sometimes edit: Maybe Chidori (that's what he showed Naruto in episode 55) requires hand seals, while Raikiri (the version of Chidori he usually uses in combat) does not. Last edited by neshru; 2009-04-11 at 05:38.

2009-04-19, 16:34	Link #36
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Again, I got left behind. Basically the gist for episode 103 was: Spoiler: The reason why Gas-masked dude smoke-screen turned so effectively was because that guy Rinji was capable to see through or sense any pressence within the smoke via an unknown jutsu of his. When that Rinji guy left out the battlefield the other three were left blind inside the smokescreen and helpless against Lee's Sensor Vision and then Akamaru's Dynamic Marking.

2009-04-10, 15:55	Link #23
Ashura3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	Hand seals have definitely been used for Chidori before, both by Kakashi (see his use of it against Zabuza) and by Sasuke (see his use of it against Gaara).

2009-04-11, 07:09	Link #28
BlackDove Unheard Join Date: Nov 2003	When they don't do the hand seals, it means they do it too fast for anyone to see. Hence, master of technique, etc. Kakashi says it himself when he fights Itachi way back in the first one - how he does the seals so fast he can't even track them with his Sharingan.

2009-04-11, 15:24	Link #29
kuroSaki_Ichi Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hong Kong Age: 33	meh, i just want this to be over and get started on some sasuke screen time XD. The villians are pretty gay.. like come on...the water dude was just creepy lol.

2009-04-12, 09:31	Link #30
Sasuke_Bateman No Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England	:/ so boring, Tobi made it funny

2009-04-12, 14:07	Link #31
king12354 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Sigh... Spoiler for Sasuke's 3d plane reversing jutsu!:

2009-04-14, 19:33	Link #32
Supermutant Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario	I'm glad that everyone else thought that these episodes were great too. So much was going on. Little stuff like Shino still smarting over Naruto's ignorance, the action, the Akatsuki appearing, and the big stuff like Guren revelation. (Which had kind of been hinted at I think...) The story is at least somewhat tied into the main plot through the three tails, (Like how the last filler was at least somewhat tied in through Naruto's elemental learning) but the story's big success is that it's multi-faceted nature, (Even the thugs have depth) use of less utilized characters, and big stakes makes it interesting and gives it some emotional resonance even if it can't be a crucial plot development. Guren is a fun character, and there's good odds she might end up dead at the end. So something's at stake at least.

2009-04-17, 04:50	Link #34
Guardi Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Are my standards too high here? You know when i watch Naruto i want some good animated action with at least some good designed villains. In this filler arc the design of the villains was just ridiculous. It looked like it came from the 80s. Just plain stupid, cliched and well... ridiculous. Except the design of guren, which was just ok. We dont really need to talk about the animation qualitiy... Have you all forgotten the good times of Naruto? These good times were by far superior to the shit were seeing now. I cant take that anymore...

2009-04-26, 19:08	Link #37
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	With the developments that transpired in episode 104 it seems that this original arc has begun to give off the first signs towards its conclusion. Spoiler: Tobis' antics to catch Deidara's attention were very welcoming to me, although I do not think that Akatsuki will enter into the heat of battle for this arc since Deidara head off towards a different direction, and Tobi remains prudent about not battling Konoha at this stage. Spoiler: The other twist for this filler arc turns out that Guren killed Yuukimaru's mother and feels with regret recalling that misfortunate event, since she has grown so much fond of him in-depth. Of course, Orochimaru knew'd all along about Guren's messy affair and predicted her betrayal of him. That's why Kabuto's there threatening her with blackmail at revealing to Yuukimaru, that she's gotten some skeletons hidden in her closet. Kabuto uses the trump card effectively well to make preparations for a last attempt to catch the Sanbi, while getting rid of Guren at the same time.