Spice and Wolf II - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[Kairin]

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[Kaguya]

Holo...

Pyrite seems to be corn, gasoline, or New Prius.

[golthin]

like many people predicted, the preview was such ownage for many people that were antsy about it.

[serenade_beta]

Tch~, as expected, but that Horo x Amati scene wasn't true... A delusion.

It was a really interesting episode! I guess the only part that messed up the atmosphere was the warning telling people not to watch on the internet (Shame on them! How could they do such a thing... ).
Though it was good laughs along with Lawrence worrying about Horo and having delusions over them.

The rest was just stuff on trading/etc... It was interesting. Mark was pretty cool.
Feel sorry for Amati... Don't see him coming out of this very well... The next episode's title has "despair" too in it... (´・ω・｀)

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Mark was pretty cool.

I'm glad someone else is saying that besides me.

You've gotta love the amount of delusions in this episode though.

[FlareKnight]

Spoiler for Ep4:

Yeah Mark is definitely a pretty cool guy and a good friend. Obviously there is only so much he can do, but he really is trying to help Lawrence out. That tip about going to Deanna, helping out with the rumour at the right time, and doing what he can so Lawrence can find buyers really is huge. There are riks and issues a town merchant has to take into consideration so this is about the most he can do.

Lawrence's delusions really were something to see. Of course things wouldn't go like that, but it's not like the situation is great for Lawrence right now. Ironic how credit caused him all those problems last arc and now he's using it to try and save things this time.

One heck of a battle of the minds between Lawrence and Amati. Riling each other up with the eventual win for Lawrence in getting Amati to agree to the deal. Of course Lawrence's plan still has to succeed to stop Amati from getting the necesary funds.

Sadly not much Horo in the episode, but gives a chance for Lawrence to show what he can do. Can't wait for next week.

[Deathkillz]

I'd say that Lawrence's over active personality is his downfall

And so the epic showdown has begun huh...it certainly seems like Amati doesn't have much support in this game sadly. At least Lawrence has insider information coming from Mark, which makes me think...Amati is actually a better businessman than Lawrence if you take into account only using their own abilities.

Not enough Horo this week...makes me sad D:

[Lightly_Toasted]

Thats where I disagree with you Death. Lawrence is a true businessman, resorting to almost any means necessary to accomplish his goal. Amati reminds me alot of a certain Spanish Romantic who felt he had to be chivalrous, and fight windmills as if they were giants. Amanti's youth and inexperience it what leads him to try and at like such a knight, when what he should be doing as a businessman is using any resource available to him.

[wOoOzZy]

I imagine things will end up like this: Lawrence will look like he's going to win, then Amati will pull something out of his ass and appear to be the victor to a distressed Lawrence, then Horo will pull something out of her ass to give Lawrence the official victory, and finally Lawrence will be a nice guy and do something to not ruin Amati.

So far every other episode has been a great one with good ones in between. I expect next episode to be another great one.

[ThoHell]

I haven't seen the episode yet, but reading all your post delivered me from hell.... I feel like a mountain of stress and torment have been relieved.

[Blaat]

Excellent episode while the lack of Horo was disappointing I enjoyed seeing Lawrence recovering from the last week's ordeal and then trying to beat Amati at his own game.

I can't wait to see the conclusion next week.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Lightly_Toasted

resorting to almost any means necessary to accomplish his goal.

That is also a trait shared between both Lawrence and Amati but Lawrence is fortunate enough that he has close friends to give him hints on where else he could look for help whereas Amati hasn't shown himself to be relying on anyone. In that sense I believe that Amati is more gutsy and natural talented as a businessman than Lawrence (unless his side of the story is shown that says otherwise).

[typhonsentra]

So this makes Holo official I suppose.... gah! I hate that, it just sounds wrong saying it out loud.

[Noe]

Yep, so her official name really is Holo. It's interchangeable imho.

[Mai Kawasumi]

Originally Posted by typhonsentra

So this makes Holo official I suppose.... gah! I hate that, it just sounds wrong saying it out loud.

Like Arucard right? Even if Arucard is the official name everybody say Alucard

Horo > Holo

Slow episode, I give a 8

[Kaguya]

Amati taught the wrong spelling to Horo.

[ThoHell]

Though watching this episode put me more at ease, I still find a lot of this stupid unneeded drama.... People are being completely irrational and over reacting, like a bunch of little kids acting up to get back at someone when all their actions are doing is causing more harm. Pretty much doing something you're going to regret, but this is suppose to be a happy series so it'll be resolved most likely.... with as little heart aching drama as possible I hope.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Mai Kawasumi

Like Arucard right? Even if Arucard is the official name everybody say Alucard

Horo > Holo

Slow episode, I give a 8

Try my method... screw the romaji-ists. Just say ホロ!

[wOoOzZy]

Horo ftw. It'll be a cold day in hell before I write Holo.

[Yuutsu]

Urgh. I typed an extremely long post about this episode, but deleted it in the end (it probably would have irked a few people).

Anyway, I like this episode. The whole debacle obviously hasn't been resolved, yet; however, it's only been one episode since the issue started, so I'm not surprised. The episode was a little slow, but we got to see a resourceful and tenacious side of Lawrence, something that I don't think I've seen before (maybe?).

I agree with one of the previous users regarding how the plot might pan out in the upcoming episodes. Seeing as I haven't got around to reading the novels (don't wanna spoil myself), hopefully the solution won't be as obvious as woooozy postulated.