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n0m@n · 2012-01-21, 03:23

Well, I received the mail from bk1 and I checked the tracking mail online. It left Japan about 15 hours ago. So thinking about all of the procedures the post people has to do, i will receive my book in 2 to 3days.

Soji · 2012-01-21, 03:36

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@Soji
Yeah. But I heard that most of volume 11 is comedy. The author probably did it that way so people wont predict that someone would die, especially the MC.
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And I can understand this but as I said this is a little to dangerous move by the author is one of those situations make or break.If he could not play this well ,this will spell doom on the LN. especially (as I have said several times) if now that they were engaged did not give them their first night after all the build up.

One other thing is how he wil solve this situation that he has created. He will use Ross? Or will go on the route of the reincarnation where Rias will wait for him ? Ise and reincarnation will have some memory of a girl with crimson hair? And his memories will come back a little at a time? Just to show us that their love transcends time and reincarnation?Or will it be a scenario like the one I wrote a few pages ago?Or if Ise and Rias do the deed and continues the story from the perspective of their child?( another pervert like his father) And what if he gain Ddraig as his sacred gear?
The thing that the , the author can not afford change Ise personality when he comes back or make it without memories . O make another forced marriage for Rias (but fortunately as you guys said, it is very unlikely) after all we have already go through this scenario and I not see Rias acept something like that ever again. If he does not address/solve this in the next volume. As I have said is a dangerous move by the author a brave one ,yes... but still dangerous . If he not play this well this will become ugly.

n0m@n · 2012-01-21, 03:56

Killing a MC is definitely a risky decision. If it is the MC "seems like he died", then its a totally different story. But in the blogg it says that Ise's body turned to nothing and only his pawn pieces remained. So the author probably killed him. He must have some sort of idea for the next story arc then. So far, as the story progresses the story becomes even more good. So we have to wait(4 months) the outcome. Man waiting sure is a pain......

Kazandu · 2012-01-21, 04:06

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Killing a MC is definitely a risky decision. If it is the MC "seems like he died", then its a totally different story. But in the blogg it says that Ise's body turned to nothing and only his pawn pieces remained. So the author probably killed him. He must have some sort of idea for the next story arc then. So far, as the story progresses the story becomes even more good. So we have to wait(4 months) the outcome. Man waiting sure is a pain......

not really man, i think kill ise now will work.... i'm pondering about that, and look this way: the MC "dies" this just make the history very interesting, you can't denny the factor that even people who never readed the novel will get interested in the LN because the MC is dead, i think the autor make a nice clifhanger there and ise will return otherwise the LN surrely is dead.

And take for example Mu la Flaga of gundam Seed, his return was epic. i hope ise got a return like that.

other MC with the same scenario was Hiraga Saito Of ZNT. put aside te MC sometimes got more readers or set the story in a interesting cliffhanger, leaving the people starving for more.

n0m@n · 2012-01-21, 04:14

Certainly this situation will build up more seriousness to the story.

But I dont want it to turn like Infinte Stratos. I remember I read IS volume 6 and it ended with Ichika in serious trouble. But in the next volume they fixed that situation by making Laura save him. I was like WTF. So the cliffhanger in volume 6 seemed crap when you read volume 7 of IS.

But Code Geass had a good cliffhanger for season 1. So I wish volume 11 would make me excited like how Code Geass did. So I wonder how it would seem in volume 11. We know that Ise died, but it would change our thought by the way how they portray his death in volume 11.

If I think about it, some of my favourite anime and game has ending where the MC dies heroically. (Zacks from FF7 and Lelouch from CG)

malason13 · 2012-01-21, 04:18

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

Certainly this situation will build up more seriousness to the story. I remember I read IS volume 6 and it ended with Ichika in serious trouble. But in the next volume they fixed that situation by making Laura save him. I was like WTF. So the cliffhanger in volume 6 seemed crap when you read volume 7 of IS.

But Code Geass had a good cliffhanger for season 1. So I wish volume 11 would make me excited like how Code Geass did. So I wonder how it would seem in volume 11. We know that Ise died, but it would change our thought by the way how they portray his death in volume 11.

If I think about it, my favourite anime and game has ending where the MC dies heroically. (Zacks from FF7 and Lelouch from CG)

The results of cliffhangers are....

1.Pure awesomeness
2.Super funny
3.Another cliffhanger.
4.Use ur imagination...

Soji · 2012-01-21, 04:29

n0m@n @ Now that you said that.I really wonder how he can give the happy ending to the girls . But after the thing about the body and the pawn.... I can only see these 3 scenarios more than other
1= the pawn is the key to bring him back to life , perhaps because his spirit is in the pawn in spite ise is with great read (maybe)( or what evere).Or Rias will be the only one to found about this ,maybe beacuse she heard Ise. ..who knows.
2=Ise is reincarnated and is pervert like always but nevertheless is always retains himself because it wants to meet the beautiful girl with crimson hair that crying in his dreams. Something happens they meet again and for some reason Rias have to make Ise (reincarnated) his pawn again ( what ever she know that he is Ise or not this is up to the air ) thanks the pawn he begins to regain his memories slowly but surely and his former power as well.(wow now that I wrote this....is so much like Shinzo in some way XD)
3= Ise and Rias had their first night and she got pregnant before Ise die. Their son inherits Ise power in the future (through the pawn) . Ise power + the power of destruction from Rias ...AUC that's scary.
I know more or less are things that I have already said.But after I read what you said I see only one of these 3 possibilities come true (for now). The only thing that is certain is that the pawn will play a key role in all this and maybe even Ross.
however, to kill a Mc so loved by the fans O_O
wow..I'm hope that the author know what his doing especially after he promised the happy ending

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But I dont want it to turn like Infinte Stratos. I remember I read IS volume 6 and it ended with Ichika in serious trouble. But in the next volume they fixed that situation by making Laura save him. I was like WTF. So the cliffhanger in volume 6 seemed crap when you read volume 7 of IS.

If Ichika Die I can care less....Ise on the other hand.

n0m@n · 2012-01-21, 04:36

Oh I almost forgot. I think it's a typo mistake by the guy who wrote the spoilers, but he said 9 pawn pieces remained after Ise's death. You can only have 8 pawn pieces, and Ise was revived with 8 pawn pieces. I would understand if 7 pawn pieces remained, hinting that Ise is still alive(it is said that out of 8 pawn pieces consumed by Ise, 1 pawn pieces was used in Ise while the other 7 pieces was consumed because of the Boosted Gear).

@Soji
Lol. I would have liked Ichika more if he was slightly stronger.

Kazandu · 2012-01-21, 04:38

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Originally Posted by Soji

n0m@n @ Now that you said that.I really wonder how he can give the happy ending to the girls . But after the thing about the body and the pawn.... I can only see these 3 scenarios more than other
1= the pawn is the key to bring him back to life , perhaps because his spirit is in the pawn in spite ise is with great read (maybe)( or what evere).Or Rias will be the only one to found about this ,maybe beacuse she heard Ise. ..who knows.
2=Ise is reincarnated and is pervert like always but nevertheless is always retains himself because it wants to meet the beautiful girl with crimson hair that crying in his dreams. Something happens they meet again and for some reason Rias have to make Ise (reincarnated) his pawn again ( what ever she know that he is Ise or not this is up to the air ) thanks the pawn he begins to regain his memories slowly but surely other his former power as well.(wow now that I wrote this....is so much like Shinzo in some way XD)
3= Ise and Rias had their first night and she got pregnant before Ise die. Their son inherits Ise power in the future (through the pawn) . Ise power + the power of destruction from Rias ...AUC that's scary.
I know more or less are things that I have already said.But after I read what you said I see only one of these 3 possibilities come true (for now). The only thing that is certain is that the pawn will play a key role in all this and maybe even Ross.
however, to kill a Mc so loved by the fans O_O
wow..I'm hope that the author know what his doing especially after he promised the happy ending

If Ichika Die I can care less....Ise on the other hand.

my brother you're right... if you see ichika is a character who is easily replaced, come on that guy is a pit of denseness, but Ise instead make the whole story enjoyable, if he haven't that level of perverseness i already stop reading the LN.

amtro · 2012-01-21, 04:46

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

Oh I almost forgot. I think it's a typo mistake by the guy who wrote the spoilers, but he said 9 pawn pieces remained after Ise's death. You can only have 8 pawn pieces, and Ise was revived with 8 pawn pieces. I would understand if 7 pawn pieces remained, hinting that Ise is still alive(it is said that out of 8 pawn pieces consumed by Ise, 1 pawn pieces was used in Ise while the other 7 pieces was consumed because of the Boosted Gear).

So in other words Ddraig was taken.
Yup, we're in for a long drawn out training arc now.

Soji · 2012-01-21, 04:55

amtro@ I think than n0m@n mean he would understand if that's was the case but the spoiler said 9 piece .Wich mean we have to wait for know how much piece come back to Riasand draw conclusions .

Raxnom · 2012-01-21, 05:02

@amtro No. According to spoilers Rias had 8 pieces of Pawn in her hands, that means that both Ise and Ddraig died. ( Well in case of Ddraig, normally he would just reappear withing another Boosted Gear user, because Ise died that means he has lost it. But we don't know exactly how will this proceed.)

Besides, one thing got me thinking. I may be over thinking things but Raiser said

Spoiler for for quote:

Why was Ise able to reach this level of strength with Ddraig, but others who came before him failed? I understand that Ise has his perversion, but to me that seems more like catalyst than true power. It's his perversion that boost his willpower and with that his power. To me Ise does not seem ordinary guy, so i want to see how will author wrap this up.

Axiszero · 2012-01-21, 05:08

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Killing a MC is definitely a risky decision. If it is the MC "seems like he died", then its a totally different story. But in the blogg it says that Ise's body turned to nothing and only his pawn pieces remained. So the author probably killed him. He must have some sort of idea for the next story arc then. So far, as the story progresses the story becomes even more good. So we have to wait(4 months) the outcome. Man waiting sure is a pain......

Ok so would you please tell us the blog URl? Would like to check it out.

Thanks lol.

fazri · 2012-01-21, 05:10

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

Oh I almost forgot. I think it's a typo mistake by the guy who wrote the spoilers, but he said 9 pawn pieces remained after Ise's death. You can only have 8 pawn pieces, and Ise was revived with 8 pawn pieces. I would understand if 7 pawn pieces remained, hinting that Ise is still alive(it is said that out of 8 pawn pieces consumed by Ise, 1 pawn pieces was used in Ise while the other 7 pieces was consumed because of the Boosted Gear).

@Soji
Lol. I would have liked Ichika more if he was slightly stronger.

so how much that pawn piece that rias get back after ise died.
if all returned that posibly ise not die completely or at least he have some chance to be revived either by ise friend or by him self the resuld is ise brough back other woman that will be his servant become queen that possible i think.
if i not wrong is servant devil die the piece also gone.

n0m@n · 2012-01-21, 05:19

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Originally Posted by fazri

so how much that pawn piece that rias get back after ise died.
if all returned that posibly ise not die completely or at least he have some chance to be revived either by ise friend or by him self the resuld is ise brough back other woman that will be his servant become queen that possible i think.
if i not wrong is servant devil die the piece also gone.

There was 9 "Pawn" pieces left after Ise's death according to spoiler.

Soji · 2012-01-21, 05:26

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Originally Posted by fazri

so how much that pawn piece that rias get back after ise died.
if all returned that posibly ise not die completely or at least he have some chance to be revived either by ise friend or by him self the resuld is ise brough back other woman that will be his servant become queen that possible i think.
if i not wrong is servant devil die the piece also gone.

If you right then we can be happy about this. One think that I want/hope, however is that everyone understands this at the end of this vol(11) and Rias and everyone decide to do everything possible to bring him back.

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There was 9 "Pawn" pieces left after Ise's death according to spoiler.

maybe because his power has grown a extra piece is born and that's why their are 9 now. (if the spoioler is right

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n0m@n · 2012-01-21, 05:29

It's still a mystery....... Man, where is my LN when I need it the most!

kazuya_hitoki · 2012-01-21, 05:35

Spoiler for bing translate:

Spoiler for bing translate 2:

Spoiler for bing translate 3:

i try to translate the text from the blog with bing , and is rias new power have some connection to milk?

Soji · 2012-01-21, 05:39

kazuya_hitoki@It seems I was right according to the translation (for what little we can understand) that the new power of Rias will have something to do to bring Ise back.

kazuya_hitoki · 2012-01-21, 05:50

btw after read that partial random translation from bing i just think about something from rias new power

from ise aim .... he want to grope and suck rias oppai

“Saji! Listen to me! My aim is to grope Buchou’s oppai……and then suck it!”

ise power up by touch (or grope) rias breast
and rias new power if the translation not wrong is have something to do with milk(?) is that coincidence ?

2012-01-21, 03:23	Link #3481
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	Well, I received the mail from bk1 and I checked the tracking mail online. It left Japan about 15 hours ago. So thinking about all of the procedures the post people has to do, i will receive my book in 2 to 3days. __________________

2012-01-21, 03:56	Link #3483
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	Killing a MC is definitely a risky decision. If it is the MC "seems like he died", then its a totally different story. But in the blogg it says that Ise's body turned to nothing and only his pawn pieces remained. So the author probably killed him. He must have some sort of idea for the next story arc then. So far, as the story progresses the story becomes even more good. So we have to wait(4 months) the outcome. Man waiting sure is a pain...... __________________

2012-01-21, 04:14	Link #3485
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	Certainly this situation will build up more seriousness to the story. But I dont want it to turn like Infinte Stratos. I remember I read IS volume 6 and it ended with Ichika in serious trouble. But in the next volume they fixed that situation by making Laura save him. I was like WTF. So the cliffhanger in volume 6 seemed crap when you read volume 7 of IS. But Code Geass had a good cliffhanger for season 1. So I wish volume 11 would make me excited like how Code Geass did. So I wonder how it would seem in volume 11. We know that Ise died, but it would change our thought by the way how they portray his death in volume 11. If I think about it, some of my favourite anime and game has ending where the MC dies heroically. (Zacks from FF7 and Lelouch from CG) __________________

2012-01-21, 04:36	Link #3488
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	Oh I almost forgot. I think it's a typo mistake by the guy who wrote the spoilers, but he said 9 pawn pieces remained after Ise's death. You can only have 8 pawn pieces, and Ise was revived with 8 pawn pieces. I would understand if 7 pawn pieces remained, hinting that Ise is still alive(it is said that out of 8 pawn pieces consumed by Ise, 1 pawn pieces was used in Ise while the other 7 pieces was consumed because of the Boosted Gear). @Soji Lol. I would have liked Ichika more if he was slightly stronger. __________________

2012-01-21, 05:29	Link #3497
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	It's still a mystery....... Man, where is my LN when I need it the most! __________________

2012-01-21, 04:55	Link #3491
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	amtro@ I think than n0m@n mean he would understand if that's was the case but the spoiler said 9 piece .Wich mean we have to wait for know how much piece come back to Riasand draw conclusions .

2012-01-21, 05:35	Link #3498
kazuya_hitoki random entity Join Date: Dec 2011	Spoiler for bing translate: Vol 11 Ｄ×Ｄ high school, and getting boobs was (laughs) Festival In chapter three of the last story, this volume is a before and after the Division of the prequels. Die イッセー（ as well a hero would be revived ） was at the end. And hear only serious ish were バカ話 until the second half. Author according to this theme "we gone tits is coming out??" It is then. Of RIAs and gone tits = Lunar solar power facilities Dragon fangs ' monk' = Gundam Ｘ Finally appeared in say, ' we gone tits beam '. ' BoostBoostBoostBoostBoostBoostBoostBoostBoostBoost BoostBoostBoostBoostBoostBoost!! " ' Transfer!! " "No AAAA I'm gone! 」 RIAs crowed of transfer! Setsuna?--. パァァァァァ...! Tits of RIAs is red not started emits an aura! ' BustBustBustBustBustBustBustBustBustBustBustBustBu stBustBustBustBustBustBustBust!! " A strange voice blaring from my Crown! We bust?! It is laughed at this time. Azazel ".... Is the third phase of the star! RIAs! Star you are! Entered the third phase of the tits of yours! Milk power! Also found evidence of proof of real milk power one I disagree! 」 Azazel "after all, should say"magic milk Princess' red hair! If it represents a Word, ' and gone tits beam '! Or "you gone tits battery '?! A ridiculous バカップル, you! 」イッセ-"せぇぇぇ can do it! Silence from fighting, Governor of moron! 」 RIAs ".... I, 'battery' 'beam' Finally, Oh's? ' Various drive was terminally ill. ' > Medications during mental collapse "flow of time. 『…… To be to, and getting boobs, had POO-a NAA ' or when drive began to say, finally happen?! And let ひきつら mouth. Cao God crush tools 'Holy Spear of twilight' forbidden hand ' polar night a spear of heaven ring ver. HUI-link '. Ability to force called 'cloisonné', seven ability as an artifact. Moreover, one of them one of was atrocious. It's four appeared. 'Weapons destruction' 'abilities sealed', ' others transition force "was"others to Parry attacks '. Ban get is variants. Or original forbidden hand's true dark midnight ' Holy Spear'. Identity of the 'Dragon-person' has appeared in name only, finally came out this time is present worldwide human probably knows from long time ago. Cao Cao "----says the"poison of God'. ----Says, 'God malicious'. The existence of the taboo repartee of Eden was the fruit of wisdom. Primordial Sin now defunct き聖 book God damned still swirling----. 'Dragon-person', Samuel. Angel received God hated snake and Dragon's curse to oneself, and Dragon. Dragon was wiped off the existence,----" イッセー most surprised after a temporary withdrawal. Readers know the hero certainly, no problem. And last died in Kiba who view pages, that is. Red not at 'soldiers' nine pieces back, like a mental collapse but all RIAs belonging. Well, but the resurrection is known. Maybe with say, or to ensure milk power is (laughs). Spoiler for bing translate 2: > A well-like > Dead body to lose, but soul convert to high benefit from the overwhelming power of milk, and getting boobs spirits and had gone tits reborn as a God! Personal opinion is really from Red Dragon Emperor tits Dragon Emperor and gone tits Dragon's job change would (laughs). Appeared in volume 7 and getting boobs of is going to evolve, with the help of spirits and milk God customers. From Devil pieces just came back changed to another further from the devil. 'Devil piece"is one and did Makoto demons, because without it devil discharged or likely. ----And well, stupid like is a high school Ｄ×Ｄ scary are explored that seriously like an idiot, and impossible not scoff at it (laughs) So is Volume 7 in PostScript, milk God is so like a rare descent bonus points, is possibly in serious. Though it was summoned from Zhu kurono's tits in volume 7, this time it is summoned from small tits in the Office. A Red Dragon Emperor looks to be a Breast Dragon Emperor Mage. The Office also "Stop drive, tenryu, tits Dragon Emperor? 」 And with saying it. Spoiler for bing translate 3: Dead body to lose, but soul convert to high benefit from the overwhelming power of milk, and getting boobs spirits and had gone tits reborn as a God! ……… Like expands the meaning of unknown よぎります mind, now, in the author's head feel what the meaning is unknown. i try to translate the text from the blog with bing , and is rias new power have some connection to milk?

2012-01-21, 05:39	Link #3499
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	kazuya_hitoki@It seems I was right according to the translation (for what little we can understand) that the new power of Rias will have something to do to bring Ise back.

2012-01-21, 05:50	Link #3500
kazuya_hitoki random entity Join Date: Dec 2011	btw after read that partial random translation from bing i just think about something from rias new power from ise aim .... he want to grope and suck rias oppai “Saji! Listen to me! My aim is to grope Buchou’s oppai……and then suck it!” ise power up by touch (or grope) rias breast and rias new power if the translation not wrong is have something to do with milk(?) is that coincidence ?