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The reason why most predictions blow up on people's faces is because they conclude their arguments based on subplots that are only halfway through, let alone a subplot that only went in two seconds into the show. Look at Dann and how he went around preaching like a crazy preaching thing. He saw the pieces but he didn't go further and see how the pieces joined together. Oh well.
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Only idiots jump to conclusions. I have to ask you, how, exactly, is what you are doing any different? The point you seem to be laboriously trying to reach is that one should not make a conclusion from unfinished subplots, which is fine, but you seem to have gotten lost somewhere along the way. C.C.'s Geass and Character plots were all wrapped up in Episode 15, we are now looking at a different plot about a very different C.C.. That's one subplot still wide open, next, we also have Kallen's subplot riddled with romantic undertones that is still floating around, unfinished and likely also only halfway through. How exactly, are you not jumping to conclusions by saying a ship has started to sink, when by your own logic, you shouldn't be saying that because the subplot is only half finished?
Baffling.
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But okay, lets battle the predictions out for a while. This C.C=/=C.Chi nonsense will be put to death if the series decides to use the memory loss as a bridge to the unconcerned C.C and a C.C who will regain her memories back, as you seem to be under the impression that a) she won't recover her memories and b) recovered C.C means to throw away all the times she spent with Lulu before, when in fact, there's a high chance she might embrace everything that's happened, and may serve as the trigger for her to see the true wish that Lulu saw, but she herself couldn't.  However, I'll grant that it's wee too early to speculate, but I won't be surprised if this memory loss will serve as the trigger point to bind Lulu x C.C together, as it's pretty much the only thing that could sever C.C's defensive points and temporarily wash her suicidal mindset to let Lulu breach into her barrier. |
I'm not quite sure where you are pulling this 'nonsense' clause from, when, quite clearly, a person is defined by their memories. That is an observable fact about humans, two identical people, raised in different environments develop into different people. They don't turn out to be the same exact same person. C.C. and CChi's memories are far removed from one another if not for only the experiences C.C. had which CChi will never experience.
Your assumption about what impression I happen to be under is also quite wrong. In fact, I'm almost certain that C.C.'s memories will return, but so to will the curse that warped her. It doesn't mean she'll just throw everything away, but C.C. and CChi have different wishes. One is to die, the other is to be loved. Once you combine both, you have a very blatant death flag flying up into the air. "Die with a smile" as they say. Then we also have to remember that someone will likely have to die with Charles and take up the unaccounted for power of Code.
You are looking at everything through Optimism-glasses that seem to be ignoring just how horrible C.C.'s memory must have been to warp her desire to be loved into a desire to simply be put down and out of her misery.
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This + C.C's eventual memory return = You have something to worry about.  |
No, that is an assenine presumption. I have more to worry about when I go outside in fear of a bus running me over for no reason. I think you should take off your tinted glasses and look at your own double standards about making assumptions when the subplots are not even near halfway completed.
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As for Lulu x Kallen, well...
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Well?
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As far as canon goes, I'm not surprised they've started sinking the Lulu x Kallen ship (I didn't say sunk at least). It's remarkably easy to see which side is on the defensive, as it'll look like the crew tries to attack the other ship without trying to save their own ship from sinking. You're more than welcome to laugh at me if my predictions blow up in my face, btw, but while I'm a smartass, I won't usually say something unless I'm 100% confident in it, just as I'm confident in how the second half is slapping Dann silly right now. 
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When, oh omnipotent god, have they started sinking the KallenxLelouch ship? When they were developing Kallen's interest in Lelouch through his sister even while she was captured? Through her unyielding devotion to him even in the face of Refrain? I must have missed this sinking moment of which you speak, but my eyes must not be as far seeing as yours.
And for the sake of my own sanity at this spewing of verbal diarrhea, this moment between C.C. and Lelouch was no different than the Kallen moments in Ep.10-11. As has been thrown around so much concerning that discussion "He'd have done it for any of his friends."... Well, "He'd have done it for any of his friends." I love when things go full circle. The only moment that has ever exceeded this was between him and Shirley, when he managed to admit that he liked her and during her death. That was a moment that may very well have nuked both ships to hell, but you seem to be omitting that for some reason.
If I come back to laugh at you, it won't be because your predictions are wrong, as I do not expect you to be some sort of soothsayer or farseer. The reason I'll likely laugh is because you run a double standard about jumping to conclusions.
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. While its true that Viletta did shoot Ougi in the end, one can't deny that she still has feelings for Ougi even now (which of course developed during the time she was amnesiac, and it was reciprocated by Ougi), and that would probably not change. So I have little doubt that we will see the surface of a CCXLulu relationship during the next dozen or so episodes. The only question is what will happen in the end when CC recovers her memories, if she would follow the same path as Viletta or not. But considering the relatively postive note at the end of S1 for CC and Lulu, it spells almost certain death to all other ships.
