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Elf song · 2011-12-31, 10:06

And Shana's origin too.
I've been wondering how can she (as the vessel) is able to store Alastor (the God) and has more space left. O_o

Hope the author gives us the answer in SIII.

SnS4Eva · 2011-12-31, 14:52

Spoiler for Satou:

FritzC · 2012-01-01, 01:08

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Originally Posted by Kochiya

For S2, Sabrac's mini arc was done rather nicely,no?

Eternal song, in terms of quality for a manga, is just...impossible to describe. So detailed T.T Yeah, should be made into a movie. Not that most Shana fans will care, they will be like, "where's my Shana?"

I enjoy SnS solely because of Shana and Yuji.

What's wrong with that?...
-_-

Kochiya · 2012-01-01, 03:09

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Originally Posted by FritzC

I enjoy SnS solely because of Shana and Yuji.

What's wrong with that?...
-_-

Nothing at all, kind sir. Merely personal opinion that if you read the novels, you will find a lot more than you normally will in the world of Shana. It changes your perception drastically, I guess.

Cosmic Eagle · 2012-01-01, 08:05

Well not every LN can have the fortune of getting picked up by a studio like Sunrise and giving the thorough treatment it deserves (Looking at you Horizon...)

FritzC · 2012-01-01, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Kochiya

Nothing at all, kind sir. Merely personal opinion that if you read the novels, you will find a lot more than you normally will in the world of Shana. It changes your perception drastically, I guess.

Maybe, but I just tend to get attached to main characters and annoyed by side characters. I dunno why, but I've always been like that.

Anyways, I can't read the novels, can't read Japanese. I don't have a few years to learn and get to a Light Novel level either unfortunately. Life is busy.

genryu_black · 2012-01-03, 09:45

is there someone here beside teh_ping who also translate shana's novel?

Hell_ping · 2012-01-04, 08:55

Cosmic Eagle? Csmith400?

Senshigeia · 2012-01-05, 02:26

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Originally Posted by SnS4Eva

Spoiler for Satou:

Maybe she's waiting for him to get a little older, and then move to this new world?? Bah, I don't know...

Cosmic Eagle · 2012-01-05, 07:10

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Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Cosmic Eagle? Csmith400?

No....it will be practically you regardless of anything else, since your the public face and tank for everything that comes this way

Mad_Scientist · 2012-01-12, 05:50

Hey all, first post here.

I have fairly recently become aware of some of the differences between the Light Novels and the anime adaption, which makes me quite sad that Viz seems to have abandoned the novels. Anyways, in my attempts to learn more about how the anime changed things, I learned quite a bit more. I found out how the Light Novels end. Oops. Oh well, nothing to do about that now.

But this brings up a question in my mind. Given the true nature of the Snake of the Festival's plan, I have to wonder why he didn't just tell Shana and the other Flame Hazes about it all much sooner. Yah, they might not all agree, they might distrust him or think the plan too risky, etc, but surely some would hesitate. Actually, from what I understand, don't most of the Flame Hazes retreat once they learn what Snake of the Festival is really up to?

And I think Yuji would really want Shana at least to know what his goals were. So, was it ever explained in the Light Novels why he waited as long as he did?

Senshigeia · 2012-01-12, 06:05

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Originally Posted by Mad_Scientist

I have fairly recently become aware of some of the differences between the Light Novels and the anime adaption, which makes me quite sad that Viz seems to have abandoned the novels. Anyways, in my attempts to learn more about how the anime changed things, I learned quite a bit more. I found out how the Light Novels end. Oops. Oh well, nothing to do about that now.

Same here. Join the club!

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Originally Posted by Mad_Scientist

But this brings up a question in my mind. Given the true nature of the Snake of the Festival's plan, I have to wonder why he didn't just tell Shana and the other Flame Hazes about it all much sooner. Yah, they might not all agree, they might distrust him or think the plan too risky, etc, but surely some would hesitate. Actually, from what I understand, don't most of the Flame Hazes retreat once they learn what Snake of the Festival is really up to?

Well, as far as I know, the main goal of a Flame Haze is to maintain the balance in the world. SnH's plan is WAY too risky for all of them to agree, but some of the Flame Hazes are "enchanted" by this new dream world and loose their will of fighting (as Margery almost did in episode 4, but at that moment she remembered another reason for her to live - Satou). If a Flame Haze looses her fighting hunger, he/she disappears - faces annihilation.
I am not 100% sure about this, but at least it's what I think. Anyway, any Flame Haze who wants to keep the balance will fight SnH, whatever what - and this is what Shana wants to do, as a Flame Haze.

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Originally Posted by Mad_Scientist

And I think Yuji would really want Shana at least to know what his goals were. So, was it ever explained in the Light Novels why he waited as long as he did?

His plan has several stages. To make his plan known to all he had to release SnH's original body first, to have full power. But then again I'm not sure about this.

edgelesspigeon · 2012-01-14, 02:04

I thought about why Yuji didn't tell Shana about his plans earlier either, but then again, considering how devoted the Flame Haze were to the balance, telling them would not have made a difference, or would have made it easier to stop him if they knew his plans ahead of time. Telling Shana, "I need you to trust me on this. I have a plan to save the world, and it involves working with our archenemies Bal Masqué, who have tried to kill us numerous times. The plan hinges on me releasing the Flame Haze's most powerful adversary from his ancient prison" does not seem like a recipe for success.

Dark Wing · 2012-01-14, 10:29

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Originally Posted by edgelesspigeon

I thought about why Yuji didn't tell Shana about his plans earlier either, but then again, considering how devoted the Flame Haze were to the balance, telling them would not have made a difference, or would have made it easier to stop him if they knew his plans ahead of time. Telling Shana, "I need you to trust me on this. I have a plan to save the world, and it involves working with our archenemies Bal Masqué, who have tried to kill us numerous times. The plan hinges on me releasing the Flame Haze's most powerful adversary from his ancient prison" does not seem like a recipe for success.

Correct sir! The reason Yuji had to keep his plan a secret was because Shana as a Flame Haze is honor bond to stop him.

ToHell · 2012-01-14, 20:11

Hello Guys, i have one Question regarding Alastor

Spoiler:

Sorry for my English

redflame · 2012-01-14, 22:59

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Originally Posted by ToHell

Hello Guys, i have one Question regarding Alastor

Spoiler:

Sorry for my English

Alastor is still with Shana and shes still a flame haze. I don't know about Yuji.

I'm sorry if this answer wasn't the one you're asking for though.

elleinad00 · 2012-01-15, 01:19

Spoiler for Question: I really don't get this part of Vol. 22 epilogue:

what does that mean.... why would someone want to take his life?? after the creation of the new world does everyone knows him and what he did??

Rising Dragon · 2012-01-15, 01:21

Undoubtedly. And it's implied that not everyone would be happy with the creation of Xanadu and that there'd still be a need for Flame Hazes.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2012-01-15, 01:58

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Originally Posted by elleinad00

Spoiler for Question: I really don't get this part of Vol. 22 epilogue:

what does that mean.... why would someone want to take his life?? after the creation of the new world does everyone knows him and what he did??

To quote Mr. Smith from the Matrix, when the Machines tried to make a perfect world, the people rejected it. People just can't accept a world where everything works out. There's gotta be flaws and crap.

At least that's how I see it.

edgelesspigeon · 2012-01-15, 02:29

According to teh_ping, Yuji still has his abilities. I asked similar question, and teh_ping responded with: "Until it gets translated, until it gets translated. All I can say is that Yuji still has them (and more). The only thing he lost was his intuition. Everyone else was fine."

2011-12-31, 14:52	Link #4702
SnS4Eva Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Spoiler for Satou: wait a second here, in the summary it says that Margery stays behind in the present world with satou, and he is a human whilst Margery is a flame haze, wouldnt only satou age while Margery doesnt?

2012-01-01, 08:05	Link #4705
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	Well not every LN can have the fortune of getting picked up by a studio like Sunrise and giving the thorough treatment it deserves (Looking at you Horizon...) __________________

2012-01-04, 08:55	Link #4708
Hell_ping 一刀繚乱 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: アッバス Age: 33	Cosmic Eagle? Csmith400? __________________ I can still proceed on without reason.

2012-01-14, 20:11	Link #4715
ToHell Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012	Hello Guys, i have one Question regarding Alastor Spoiler: Lost Shana Alastor in Xanadu? She need him no more. And she is now a normal Girl? Yuji lost no new abilities? Sorry for my English

2012-01-15, 01:19	Link #4717
elleinad00 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Philippines	Spoiler for Question: I really don't get this part of Vol. 22 epilogue: Sometimes, he would be chased, and sometimes, others would want to take his life. But even so, he continued to persuade, continued to persuade. what does that mean.... why would someone want to take his life?? after the creation of the new world does everyone knows him and what he did??

2011-12-31, 10:06	Link #4701
Elf song Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	And Shana's origin too. I've been wondering how can she (as the vessel) is able to store Alastor (the God) and has more space left. O_o Hope the author gives us the answer in SIII.

2012-01-03, 09:45	Link #4707
genryu_black Member Join Date: Dec 2010	is there someone here beside teh_ping who also translate shana's novel?

2012-01-12, 05:50	Link #4711
Mad_Scientist Member Join Date: Jan 2012	Hey all, first post here. I have fairly recently become aware of some of the differences between the Light Novels and the anime adaption, which makes me quite sad that Viz seems to have abandoned the novels. Anyways, in my attempts to learn more about how the anime changed things, I learned quite a bit more. I found out how the Light Novels end. Oops. Oh well, nothing to do about that now. But this brings up a question in my mind. Given the true nature of the Snake of the Festival's plan, I have to wonder why he didn't just tell Shana and the other Flame Hazes about it all much sooner. Yah, they might not all agree, they might distrust him or think the plan too risky, etc, but surely some would hesitate. Actually, from what I understand, don't most of the Flame Hazes retreat once they learn what Snake of the Festival is really up to? And I think Yuji would really want Shana at least to know what his goals were. So, was it ever explained in the Light Novels why he waited as long as he did?

2012-01-14, 02:04	Link #4713
edgelesspigeon Member Join Date: Feb 2011	I thought about why Yuji didn't tell Shana about his plans earlier either, but then again, considering how devoted the Flame Haze were to the balance, telling them would not have made a difference, or would have made it easier to stop him if they knew his plans ahead of time. Telling Shana, "I need you to trust me on this. I have a plan to save the world, and it involves working with our archenemies Bal Masqué, who have tried to kill us numerous times. The plan hinges on me releasing the Flame Haze's most powerful adversary from his ancient prison" does not seem like a recipe for success.

2012-01-15, 01:21	Link #4718
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Undoubtedly. And it's implied that not everyone would be happy with the creation of Xanadu and that there'd still be a need for Flame Hazes. __________________

2012-01-15, 02:29	Link #4720
edgelesspigeon Member Join Date: Feb 2011	According to teh_ping, Yuji still has his abilities. I asked similar question, and teh_ping responded with: "Until it gets translated, until it gets translated. All I can say is that Yuji still has them (and more). The only thing he lost was his intuition. Everyone else was fine."