[Anime] Umineko - Spoilers & Expectations (for experienced VN readers only)

[BakaOnna]

This has been bothering me for a while, since I remember this happening in Ep2, but it was never shown in the anime and people said it happened in Ep3. The scene where Battler and whichever parent (but I clearly remember it being Rosa) in the mansion looking for the next set of twilight bodies and they discover the door with the numbers written on them. The ones that later on in Ep4 reveal that they were account numbers to the money and has Battler's birthday on it.

If it didn't happen in Ep2, then where does it happen in Ep3? It has to have happened before Ep4.

[Workworkwork]

Originally Posted by BakaOnna

This has been bothering me for a while, since I remember this happening in Ep2, but it was never shown in the anime and people said it happened in Ep3. The scene where Battler and whichever parent (but I clearly remember it being Rosa) in the mansion looking for the next set of twilight bodies and they discover the door with the numbers written on them. The ones that later on in Ep4 reveal that they were account numbers to the money and has Battler's birthday on it.

If it didn't happen in Ep2, then where does it happen in Ep3? It has to have happened before Ep4.

Then your memory's seriously busted, dude. They'll be discovering it when George and Shannon get killed(In Shannon's case, re-killed?).

[MarthX]

Originally Posted by BakaOnna

This has been bothering me for a while, since I remember this happening in Ep2, but it was never shown in the anime and people said it happened in Ep3. The scene where Battler and whichever parent (but I clearly remember it being Rosa) in the mansion looking for the next set of twilight bodies and they discover the door with the numbers written on them. The ones that later on in Ep4 reveal that they were account numbers to the money and has Battler's birthday on it.

If it didn't happen in Ep2, then where does it happen in Ep3? It has to have happened before Ep4.

Pretty sure it happens in EP3 when Eva and the cousins enter the mansion and are about to find the corpses.

[BakaOnna]

Ah, I see. Probably got confused because I was rereading Ep2 and 3 around the same time and overlapping them when I was rereading them.

[June 1983]

Okay, I just finished replaying EP 3 so here is a possible breakdown I've worked out for the last two episodes of this arc -- based on the idea that III-V will end with Hideyoshi's death. These are probably in the ballpark of 20 minutes, give or take a little.

Promotion

The Guest House Gang realizes the trip to the mansion has been going on for too long (1 min)
Eva, Battler, George, and Nanjo find the bodies of the three in the hall (1-2 mins)
Meta-World (might be interspliced with the above scene): The game is suspended (1 min, though it could be longer because this arc has been so meta-heavy)
Guest House: George meets Beato in the hallway and she offers to revive Shannon (1 min)
George ~flies~ (30 seconds)
Evatrice and the Siestas (1 min)
Eva goes to the bathroom, Natsuhi and Krauss are killed and stolen from the Guest House (2 mins) This scene could be longer if they preserve Eva's internal conversation with Evatrice.
Shannon is revived (2 mins) This is such a beautiful scene so I hope they do a good job with it.
George and Shannon are killed, Virgilia helps Beato escape (1-2 mins) <-- I think the commercial break will come somewhere in this scene)

Guest House: Disappearances of George, Krauss, and Natsuhi discovered (1-2 mins) This could be on the longer side if they spend a certain amount of time on Battler's deductions on the window George left through, which I think they will.
Krauss and Natsuhi's bodies discovered in the arbor (2 mins)
They enter the mansion and find the numbers on the door (1-2 mins)
George and Shannon are found in the parlor (2 mins)
Jessica and Eva fight, Eva fires the shot and hurts Jessica's eyes (2 mins)
End on a cliff hanger!

Swindles

Jessica's wounds are treated by Nanjo (1 min)
Nanjo is killed (30 secs)
Beato raises Kanon's spirit and he leads Jessica to safety (2 mins)
Evatrice and the Siestas kill Beato's body (1 min 30 secs)
Evatrice is pulled into the meta-world and faces off against Battler (2 mins)
Beatrice searches Kyrie's corpse (1 min)
Battler's cigarette theory (1 min)
Real world: Battler and Eva discover Nanjo's corpse (30 secs)
Evatrice's web of red (3 mins)
Beato's counterattack (1 min)
Eva kills Battler (30 secs or less)
I sure hope Eva looks as creepy in this scene as she does in the VN. The first time I played this, I screamed a little!

Transition to the Golden Land (this always makes me think of the Neverending Story! (30 secs)
The Golden Land/Troll/Ange's appearance (2-3 mins)

Tea Party with Beato, Bern, and Lambda (1 min 30 secs) - I think they will focus mainly on the question of who is Ange, and after Bern leaves, of course, Lambda threatening Beato

The World of 1998
Ange visits Eva in the hospital (1 min)
Ange meets Bernkastel on the rooftop (1 min)

[TsundereCake]

Originally Posted by June 1983

Tea Party with Beato, Bern, and Lambda (1 min 30 secs) - I think they will focus mainly on the question of who is Ange, and after Bern leaves, of course, Lambda threatening Beato

No Lord Santa Claus talk DDD:??? *shot*

I really need to except that that won't be in the anime

[June 1983]

I think we'll be lucky if we get to see Lambda delightedly informing us that Evatrice was actually EVA OMG!!!!

[Marion]

Maybe Promotions can end with the sound of the gun going off and then keep on a cliffhanger whether Jessica died or not?

Also remember for Ange meeting Eva it's not just 1-2-3. Eva needs to give Ange the title of 'Beatrice' and say how miserable she's going to be. Viewers need to see just how far Eva's sanity has cracked since 1986.

[Workworkwork]

Originally Posted by Marion

Maybe Promotions can end with the sound of the gun going off and then keep on a cliffhanger whether Jessica died or not?

Also remember for Ange meeting Eva it's not just 1-2-3. Eva needs to give Ange the title of 'Beatrice' and say how miserable she's going to be. Viewers need to see just how far Eva's sanity has cracked since 1986.

No, they don't "Need" to see that. Tell me, what impact does "Eva should have at least 6 types of cancer with all the stress she's had since 1986" have on the plot? Just like the exhilarating feeling we got when she finally solved the epitaph, that doesn't need to be said in the anime.

At -most-, she'll say she's had a crappy life.

[Marion]

Originally Posted by Workworkwork

No, they don't "Need" to see that. Tell me, what impact does "Eva should have at least 6 types of cancer with all the stress she's had since 1986" have on the plot? Just like the exhilarating feeling we got when she finally solved the epitaph, that doesn't need to be said in the anime.

At -most-, she'll say she's had a crappy life.

It's not about that. It's about just showing how cruel she's been to Ange through the way she talks. In the game she wasn't somber in her talks or thinking of her past. She was literally laughing in Ange's face about her becoming miserable due to the fortune she would inherit and telling her to 'give up and die'.

Spoiler for Higurashi spoilers:

Remember the end of Watanagashi-hen? Keiichi was in the hospital room imaging a bloody Mion hammering nails into his body and we saw in the next frame it was all in his head and he was implied to have gone crazy.

[Workworkwork]

Originally Posted by Marion

It's not about that. It's about just showing how cruel she's been to Ange through the way she talks. In the game she wasn't somber in her talks or thinking of her past. She was literally laughing in Ange's face about her becoming miserable due to the fortune she would inherit and telling her to 'give up and die'.

Spoiler for Higurashi spoilers:

Remember the end of Watanagashi-hen? Keiichi was in the hospital room imaging a bloody Mion hammering nails into his body and we saw in the next frame it was all in his head and he was implied to have gone crazy.

Spoiler for Higurashi:

There was no frame that implied he went crazy.

[Marion]

Originally Posted by Workworkwork

Spoiler for Higurashi:

There was no frame that implied he went crazy.

In the anime there was :P Watch the last episode again and at the ending it happens.

Edit: My bad, I meant at the end of the answer arc XD; But my point still stands - Mion in the frame at the last episode of Watanagashi-hen was bloody and in her robes. I doubt she would really be there.

[MeoTwister5]

Does anyone remember the exact scene in Ep4 that Battler is given the use of blue text?

[sona-nyl]

The meta world scene right after the parents speculation that Kinzo actually is dead.

[MeoTwister5]

Thanks. I was trying to remember when he started using blue since Kinzo's death prior to the games was his first true blue text victory.

[sintaki]

im confused ep 5 confused me -__-

[MarthX]

No EP5 discussion here.

[momobunny]

Do you mean episode 5 of the game or episode 5 of the anime?

Also... I don't think it's against the rules to talk about Episode 5 of the game in this topic is it? It's marked for spoilers and experienced VN readers. Also it hasn't stopped people in the past, and none got in trouble for it.

[Marion]

Originally Posted by Maho Momo

Do you mean episode 5 of the game or episode 5 of the anime?

Also... I don't think it's against the rules to talk about Episode 5 of the game in this topic is it? It's marked for spoilers and experienced VN readers. Also it hasn't stopped people in the past, and none got in trouble for it.

Well as long as it's marked for spoilers. Only place where EP 5 spoilers don't need to be marked is in the EP 5 thread, for obvious reasons.

[Tamad]

Judging by sintaki's only other post on the Umineko sub-forums, it looks like he meant episode 5 of the anime, which means he was in the completely wrong section anyways.