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===== And here's part 2 of the Episode 20 Commentary. 18:30 Diamond Crevasse Nakamura: It was Kanno-san's idea to have it extend straight into the ending, not Yoshino or Kawamori's. I was a bit surprised to find out that it wasn't planned that way from the start! Kamiya: They'd actually planned to use the original version Toyoguchi: The ending version, right? And during the rehearsal and the recording, that's what they played. It was only when it went on air that it changed. Nakamura: I think they only recorded the song around the time that we recorded the episode. Toyoguchi: So it really was last minute! => they talk about Eddie (Kanaria's son) and his father, wondering who the latter was voiced by ("was it Miyake Kenta-san?" "No, I don't think so" "Who was it then? I've forgotten..." etc) Then...for ~19:46 to 23:37, here's another rough sub file removed. [Once again, pardon the shoddy timing and the stolen typesetting etc...Oh, and please don't redistribute this!] And finally 23:37 See you next time Nakamura: So we have one more DVD volume left. Please watch it! Kamiya: Yes, please do. Although I don't appear in it, but about Macross Frontier, I lov-" (Nakamura: See you, everyone!) ===== Yup, finally! Just one more commentary left! See you next time, everyone!
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Hrmmm... Mediafire doesn't like to give out the sub, says that the link is broken. -.-
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2011-04-12, 01:51 | Link #1103 | |
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p.s. Just in case: the interesting talking points that Nakamura brings up don't always have something to do with Sheryl...
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2011-04-12, 02:12 | Link #1104 | |
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*edit* Just watched both subtitled commentaries. Great work! And, well, at least from Nakamuras commentary he said that Alto was a gentleman, while the other two were pushing the "he's indecisive" line. All seemed a bit disappointed ( if you can call it that with the level of playful commentary they had ) that Sheryl and Alto didn't have more time on the rooftop to chat. And LOL at Klans seiyuu calling Sheryl "lascivious" for wearing a beret.
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2011-04-12, 03:38 | Link #1105 | |
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I'm sure she was joking there ^^
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2011-04-12, 05:05 | Link #1106 |
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I'd believe the seiyuus if they say he is horrible (in terms of making a decision towards Ranka and Sheryl). The mayor point why I say this is they have guided the characters longer than we have done it and they spend more time practising or diving into the roles.
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2011-04-12, 09:02 | Link #1109 | |
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As for Ranka, I don't think we ever got real comments on what they thought of her TV incarnation, but there is the that general disconnect between her status as a main hero protagonist and what then happened with her in the series.
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Now try to understand both Sheryl and Ranka. They both are battling for Altos attention. And almost at the end of the series Alto make a decision when one of the ladies is gone. So from this point the seiyuu is correct.. Regarding his role as a defender I think he was quite uncertain as well and Ozma forced him to make a decision in episode 22. Before that he struggled between one person and the fleet. But I don't think he was horrible here. It was just that someone had to kick his ass. Going to Ranka. I think I won't comment this because whatever I say about her as (a tragic) hero, no one would believe it.
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Note on Alto: I believe there is a more concrete word for Alto's 'indecisiveness' (it's been used in some movie interviews, IIRC, I just don't remember what it is atm...) but the word most of the cast use is "furafura" (ふらふら), which you might translate as "unsteady; neither here nor there; indecisive".
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This isn't the movie thread, so I'm not going to be more specific as to which aspect of Alto he was referring to, but if you've followed some of the movie reactions, you should be able to figure it out. As for Ranka, I think it's safe to say that your opinion differs from those of Kawamori and Yoshino. I also don't believe she deserves all the hate she's been getting. After finding out that Ai-kun was a Vajra in episode 21, do you seriously think she could keep singing so that people could destroy others of his kind? Especially when their deaths clearly cause her great pain, even if she doesn't understand why? Trying to ask Alto to go was stupid, seemingly not caring about Nanase or Ozma also reflects badly on her, but I do think that leaving was the only option available to Ranka given HER circumstances, and it just so happened that Brera was the one who offered to take her. Of course, if she'd decided to turn Ai-kun in to the authorities when she first found him, she probably wouldn't have reached this point... Do feel free to shoot me down, but seriously, I think that the Ranka hate here is getting out of hand. ======= And this is old, but I just realised something when I was rewatching some episodes over the last few days... Quote:
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See our last conversation on this page. Though admittedly, the question in the interview wasn't just about that particular aspect of Alto, but about series vs. movie Alto in general. Hm...it was a video interview that I'm not going to check again right now, but the notes I made on it say "more realistic, closer to what people do in real life".
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Look again. Michel said it is a sin to be numb. (Thora sub)
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2011-04-13, 09:58 | Link #1119 | |
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Learn better quoting. He said "It's also a sin to be that dense". "Dense" and "numb" mean totally different things. And, yes, I got the THORA sub, too.
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Then see Ranka performing her two songs (which are straight meant for Alto) and Alto makes his stunt including the arrow. In 22:04 min we see Ranka running the stairs sure to tell him what she feels. All above scenes are in episode 19. Learn better understanding I would say. I take this as a personal note to improve my English. However this is a free forum with no aggressive lecturing bans like in elitistjerks.
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