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Ikahodo is a slang term that very roughly corresponds to "WTF?" or "what the hell" or more literally - "how much???"
Dondake is a slang term derived from the gay community that I almost translate as "!!!!??!!!". It can apparently be used for "wtf?" or "How the f*** are you?" or a few other almost meaningless rude terms of "!?" When translating... every language has a few terms that really just don'[t translate at all without an entire paragraph of footnotes. edit: I should qualify that the F*** word is being used in this context as a meaningless but crude expletive rather than with any connection to sex. Its just that "what the hell???" doesn't have the impact these days... we've pretty much run out of "shocking" words to be used sparingly.
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2007-09-21, 13:28
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This is perhaps the 4th time I've tried to answer this...
Dondake is a slang which originated in the gay area of Shinjuku, and made popular by a gay entertainer named Ikko. Soon high school girls around Harajuku started to use it, and eventually picked up by the mass media. Soon many TV "talentos" started to use it, and even TV doramas. In the recently aired Dorama "Operation Proposal", Johnny's hottie Yamashita Tomohisa (Yamapi) used the word extensively, making it popular even among normal teens. I'm not clear about the exact origin of Ikahodo, but they have the exact same meaning. The Harajuku teens and possibly the gay population started to use it instead of dondake, and many people have been arguing which is the "correct" or the "cool" term to use. Hence the joke in L*S is that like regular girls, L*S girls also debate about this. Ikahodo is rather new and it's catching up in popularity as the new cool slang to use. The dondake vs ikahodo debate has evolved into the hip dialog of when some one say "Dondake?", you automatically respond with "Ikehodo!". Dondake was nominated as one of the coolest new slang of 2007 by a site I saw recently, but I think Ikehodo will catch up too. I think Ikahodo came about because the underground slang "dondake" has been appropriated by the Japanese main stream, and the moment that happens, it stopped being cool; thus a new cool term came about to replace it. Among the various sub-culture of Japan (of which otaku is one of them), the hate for the mainstream media is stronger than anything we have in the West. Just like the otaku, they shun the mainstream stuff unless forced. I must say I'm very impressed with how current Lucky Star is with Japanese popular culture. It's like a social satire/commentary in anime form. I'm quite certain that the dondake/ikahodo debate is utterly out of the otaku's realm of reference, and yet they're making several references to it, including a radio "debate" between the Hiiragi Sisters on the Lucky Channel Radio Show a few weeks ago. KyoAni is trying to do something revolutionary here, and I sure hope they'd continue. EDIT: changed ikehodo to ikahodo as that's the more popular version. Last edited by AVPlaya; 2007-09-21 at 14:37. |
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2007-09-21, 14:21
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2007-09-21, 14:36
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いかほど sounded as if it has something to do with squids, not that いけほど sounded any better. Personally, I like dondake better. It just sounded more bad-ass than ikahodo/ikehodo. 
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2007-09-22, 11:20
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2007-09-23, 03:07
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Hi guys,
I was looking around and i see few diffrent fansubbers actually subbed Lucky star. A.F.K. is a good fansub but i personally dont like how they translate things like Moe,.... . So i was wondering between other fansubbers which one i should pick. Thanks alot in advance.
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2007-09-23, 11:39
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2007-09-23, 12:25
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My favorites were EnA but they seem to have been buried by RL or something.
Guerrand's speed subs are actually pretty decent and they're the only ones to have finished the series so far. A.F.K. does excellent work... but *for me* their style of translation doesn't really serve this sort of show well. Roughly, I don't want to have to worry about whether I'm watching an a.f.k. joke instead of a Lucky*Star joke. It doesn't happen very often but when it does is can be jarring.
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2007-09-24, 07:00
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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2007-09-24, 22:47
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Ayano Minegishi, Voiced by: Yuko Goto / Mai Aizawa Born in November 4, she has AB type blood, and is 160cm tall. She lives in Saitama. She is good at Japanese, and bad at mathematics. She, Misao, and Kagami have been classmates for 5 years since junior high school, and is a dear childhood friend to Misao. She ties back her long hair with a hair comb along with her front hair, making her forehead considerably bald. She is very discreet, and likes to take care of people, making her a guardian of sorts to Misao. She is the only one of all the student characters with a boyfriend. ------ Personally, I've never seen this part of her bio, so it must have come from volume 5. I'd welcome Lucky*Star season 2 if the author continues to write up less mundane details like this. |
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