Code Geass R2 - Episode 25 Discussion / Poll [END]

[darkliam]

to me it doesn't matter if lelouch is dead or alive i still say that this was the greatest anime ever created and am happy i spent two years watching it. all hail lelouch, all hail lelouch, all hail lelouch, all hail lelouch,......

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Methuselah

At such a high altitude, can he even get out let alone run like hell? Where could he run to exactly?

He could get out for a short period, and he'd just need to run to a door. There'd be more than enough maintenance hatches to find.

[z0rr023]

speaking about phrase,
I like this one, not sure whether it's a 'correct' translation from japanese to english:
"Only those that are prepared to fire should be fired at"
What a man lulu is........he has planned everything, including his death, he bravely facing towards his death.........*cough cough, for people who believe lulu is dead...*

[CapoExecutor]

Originally Posted by Methuselah

At such a high altitude, can he even get out let alone run like hell? Where could he run to exactly?

Into the Damocles, then run into a hangar bay, hijack the ship Schniezel was about to take off in, and there he escaped.

[D-KLAC]

Originally Posted by Sute443

I'm going to stay out of the "Is Lulu alive or dead" debate for now, because there are three issues that I care about a lot more than that one.

1. Where was Sayoko during the end? I know she was in prison when Lulu was in power, so were a bunch of other people, and they were free afterwords. She was supposed to be filling in the maternal role on the orange farm with Jeremiah and Anya!

2. How did Suzaku survive Lancelot's destruction? Has that been explained?

And most importantly:

3. Somebody is taking care of Arthur, right? 'Cause, y'know, for him to just keep watch over Suzaku's empty grave would be sad on the level of the ending to Jurassic Bark.

i think i solve the where arthur after fake suzaku grave checking ougi's wedding pic cause i think you can see arthur

& really have anyone been trying to read me THEROIRES cause my GS-INSTINCT IS ON FULL ALERT DURING THAT R2-25!!!

cause i know that my THEROIES ARE RIGHT!!!

[gbaka34]

Originally Posted by Revolutionist

Spoiler for Gundam Seed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUyD2ko70uw&feature=related
Look closely, his Mobile Suit evaporates from a positron blast! and his helmet is shown floating in dead space! Keep in mind that if a person is exposed to the vacuum of space they'd freeze to death instantly and die... There's no way Mwu is alive, right? Wrong, in the follow up he's back with minor scars and amnesia....

This is a series where when someone dies they usually stay dead. There's no immortality or special powers....so considering in geass you don't necessarily stay dead when you "die", it's not impossible for Lelouch to actually be alive...

oh yea what about guiford huh?...
R3 would be a bad idea but a few ovas would be nice and maybe a alternate story that just a romance comedy that be nice too...

[Aethos]

Well at least Lelouch got to die "fabulously." Though considering he planned it out. It couldn't have been any other way. The bad part is that Ohgi and Viletta gets to live happily ever after. Not to mention Nina. That's just not right.

But damn I have loads of respect for Suzaku. He has truly redeemed himself since becoming the knight of Zero and now Zero himself.

[Kang Seung Jae]

For some reason, I hope Taniguchi takes a leaf out of Kyoto Ani's book and do a Tomoyo After.

[CapoExecutor]

Originally Posted by D-KLAC

i think i solve the where arthur after fake suzaku grave checking ougi's wedding pic cause i think you can see arthur

& really have anyone been trying to read me THEROIRES cause my GS-INSTINCT IS ON FULL ALERT DURING THAT R2-25!!!

cause i know that my THEROIES ARE RIGHT!!!

You're correct as Arthur is on top of Anya's head in the wedding picture.

[FreezeGeass]

Originally Posted by darthfury78

That's the point. When Sunrise changed the Thursday late night timeslot, which was geared at an older audience to the Sunday 5PM timeslot, which is geared at a younger audience, it made no sense at all. So this season, as the creators called it, Not As Planned. This is why I no longer recognize R2 as the official cannon of Code Geass. Since it was set at Family Hour, the writers had to make many changes to reflect the timeslot because there were restrictions to what they could and couldn't show.

Now I'm really curious as to what changes were made to the show and what was originally supposed to pan out. But I have to say, I would consider the shift of tone from R1 to R2 to be much darker, so I don't think the entire original plans for R2 were gutted.

[Freya]

Suzaku can run to Lelouch? Who else? Schnizel has geass, and no one would believe Kanon.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Originally Posted by FreezeGeass

Now I'm really curious as to what changes were made to the show and what was originally supposed to pan out. But I have to say, I would consider the shift of tone from R1 to R2 to be much darker, so I don't think the entire original plans for R2 were gutted.

A lot of the original plans were gutted due to the rushing.


We've lost the story of Cecile's brother, Kallen's family, etc.


I do hope they fill in some spots with the sound episodes.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Originally Posted by Revolutionist

Spoiler for Gundam Seed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUyD2ko70uw&feature=related
Look closely, his Mobile Suit evaporates from a positron blast! and his helmet is shown floating in dead space! Keep in mind that if a person is exposed to the vacuum of space they'd freeze to death instantly and die... There's no way Mwu is alive, right? Wrong, in the follow up he's back with minor scars and amnesia....

This is a series where when someone dies they usually stay dead. There's no immortality or special powers....so considering in geass you don't necessarily stay dead when you "die", it's not impossible for Lelouch to actually be alive...

You are aware that they went in and re-edited that scene right?

There's a difference there.

[$akura]

Where are people getting the idea that Lelouch is still alive? Just a question...

[FreezeGeass]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

A lot of the original plans were gutted due to the rushing.


We've lost the story of Cecile's brother, Kallen's family, etc.


I do hope they fill in some spots with the sound episodes.

It truely is a shame when great shows get changed due to pressure from external forces...if I recall correctly the same thing happened with Death Note being stretched to continue further than originally planned.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by D-KLAC

i think i solve the where arthur after fake suzaku grave checking ougi's wedding pic cause i think you can see arthur

& really have anyone been trying to read me THEROIRES cause my GS-INSTINCT IS ON FULL ALERT DURING THAT R2-25!!!

cause i know that my THEROIES ARE RIGHT!!!

Your theories are barely comprehensible.

[eaglei3]

Originally Posted by $akura

Where are people getting the idea that Lelouch is still alive? Just a question...

It pretty much stems from the fact that we have no idea where or what has happened to any of the Codes nor do we have that much information on how they really work as the origins were never explained.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Originally Posted by $akura

Where are people getting the idea that Lelouch is still alive? Just a question...

The driver of the cart that C.C. was in at the ending.

Originally Posted by FreezeGeass

It truely is a shame when great shows get changed due to pressure from external forces...if I recall correctly the same thing happened with Death Note being stretched to continue further than originally planned.

The original ending of Death Note was bad anyway, so it doesn't count.


As for Code Geass: It was originally a series that was supposed to replace Gundam, but was changed into this fantastic (literary-sense) SF which was thought to not be popular. Sunruse miscalculated things, and ended up having to shorten the story to help their original project (Gundam 00) be broadcasted as planned.


Overall, I'm satisfied with the series as is, but it needs to have some holes filled up to be complete.

[Freya]

Originally Posted by $akura

Where are people getting the idea that Lelouch is still alive? Just a question...

We don't know if he has a code or not, and if he's the carriage driver. You also never saw a funeral and etc. And C.C.'s last words.

[Cooler1339]

This is my favorite anime of all time. Lelouch is badass and had a plan to the very end. He made everyone look like a fool when they had to sit there watching him win, even when he was dieing. Lelouch wasn't even afraid to die, he was just waiting for it.