Kikou Shoujo wa Kizutsukanai

[wAzure]

Originally Posted by Massivela

Hi wAzure,

Is it possible to get a quick summary of each volume from whenever the anime ended?

Just a short paragraph of each volume is fine! I'm reading your latest spoilers and they don't make much sense to me lol

I probably can't do that, sorry. As for why if you ask, it's because each volume adds a lot to the overall setting of the story, and trying to summarize them in just short paragraphs would just end in you being more confused that what you already are, as a lot of things would have to be butchered in the process, which kinda loses the point of you asking me to do it in the first place.

If you think "then why don't you just write more detailed summaries?" then my answer would be the inverse this time. Just look at how much it took me to explain just a few things--if I were to try to explain every volume in detail, the amount of text would end be being enormous, which would be kinda troublesome for me.

If there's something you want to know specifically, just ask me though, I can probably help you with that. If you really, really just want to know more detailed stuff you can probably pm me or something, so we can figure out some more direct form of contact in that case. Same goes for anyone that is interested.

I won't be around all the time though, and the speed in which I may answer a question depends largely on its contents and if I'm busy or not.

[bakato]

What are Hinowa's powers? She doesn't seem to have an automaton. If it's just spirits, then does she even qualify as a puppeteer?

[Massivela]

Originally Posted by wAzure

I probably can't do that, sorry. As for why if you ask, it's because each volume adds a lot to the overall setting of the story, and trying to summarize them in just short paragraphs would just end in you being more confused that what you already are, as a lot of things would have to be butchered in the process, which kinda loses the point of you asking me to do it in the first place.

If you think "then why don't you just write more detailed summaries?" then my answer would be the inverse this time. Just look at how much it took me to explain just a few things--if I were to try to explain every volume in detail, the amount of text would end be being enormous, which would be kinda troublesome for me.

If there's something you want to know specifically, just ask me though, I can probably help you with that. If you really, really just want to know more detailed stuff you can probably pm me or something, so we can figure out some more direct form of contact in that case. Same goes for anyone that is interested.

I won't be around all the time though, and the speed in which I may answer a question depends largely on its contents and if I'm busy or not.

Oh okay then.

First thing on my mind is the topic of "synthetic humans" or humans with machine parts or other things in them. How are they made? And what makes their "manufacture" different from banned dolls?

[allfictions]

First off, thank you so much for having taken some of your time to answer all our questions. Once again, it is really appreciated, for us who are kept in the dark by the lack of translation. Mine are really overblown and focused on the little details, but you still answer them the best you can, which is really cool.

Thanks a lot.

Originally Posted by wAzure

Also, it's not really efficient to have a magician cast magic without an automaton. It would require them to write down weird runes wherever they are and basically, this is not efficient at all in a real battle. It's more used for strategy though.

Just wanted to clarify that so that you don't misunderstand what an actual magician could do without an automaton. Even people like Charl's dad and Alice who can cast magic more efficiently, are still equipped with an Eve's Heart somewhere in their bodies, otherwise it would not be practical at all. In other words, having an Eve's heart is still essential for any magic in this world. That's the reason why Eve's Heart became a world breaking advance in magic in what standards regards. Just don't confuse that. A single magician still needs an automaton to be of use.

Okay, it’s clearer now. Your summaries gave me the impression other types of magic were still widely used, only with Machinart as the most widespread, but apparently it is just that much better at casting spells. I guess it is similar to the difference between shooting with an arquebus or with semi-automatic firearms: one technology does it better and much more efficiently than the other.

Spoiler for UMD's year setting.:

During volume 13, the Bloody Sunday (1905) is explicitly mentioned to be the cause of Sonechka's problem and the main reason behind her actions for joining the evening party.

Sonechka herself mentions that incident "was not an accident, it was her sin", and later directly states the massacre that occurred that day was her fault directly.

Sonechka is no older than 17 years old, and it's hard to image she was still a small kid to negotiate with the citizens that raised their claims during that period of conflict in Russia, which would heavily imply the main events of the story take place sometime around 1906-1910, as Sonechka had to escape from Russia to take part in the evening party and become a Wiseman to restore the faith in the Russian Imperial family.

I think I can narrow it down even further, thanks to your help. With the mention of T-Fords in the first chapter of the first volume, which were first produced in October 1908, assuming not too many things changed there due to alternate history, the earliest UMD could begin would be in 1909, since Raishin arrives at Walpurgis in spring/early summer (month of May?). It’s also the time of the Bosnian Crisis, where tensions between Serbia and Austria started in earnest, as well as the fact that they are backed by Germany and Russia, and it would be common knowledge.

Of course, the text says the vehicules were “imported from USA”, when only the Ford usine in Canada exported them, and it wasn’t produced in Britain before 1911, but that’s really just obscure trivia I found on Google, no doubt the author had better things to do than research the minute trivia.

Speaking of Sonechka, is Olga the #3 Round a Russian as well? Though, according to spoilers, her family name is “Saladin”, so that doesn’t sound very Russian. Her grandmother Astrid doesn’t look like it too. If Olga is Russian though, what is her relationship with Sonechka, if there is even any?

Another tangent, but Olga made me think of her lover August Veyron (is that his name?). The spoilers mentioned something about them being apart due to being related to one of the Roses, but it says “son of the White Rose” as August, but your list of the Roses didn’t have a White Rose in it. Was that yet again an incorrect spoiler/translation?

Spoiler for Geopolitical situation:

There are a lot of references to WWI if you go past all the volumes, all the time. The author loves messing with political events that actually took place during this spawn of time, but if you ask me to precisely mention every and each one of them I probably would have to go back and re-read every volume to pinpoint each exact reference, which as you can guess, is a lot of trouble and not really that much relevant right now. For now, just bear with the fact that there are indeed a lot of references, but they are hard to mention all, so you'll have to either wait for a proper translation, or bear with this answer.

The British empire's situation is basically what I already answered before. There was an ongoing conflict between Gloria's faction and Edmund's faction for a struggle of political power, however, Gloria dies at the end of volume 14, and that leaves the total control to Edmund. If you want to know the specific actions that led to this situation, please re-read the answer I posted previously about the political situation of the country.

I can't remember much about the french empire right now.

The German empire had to back out of all the conflict and is pretty much expelled from the academy after the events of volume 7, where they attempt to attack Raishin and his friends again, but are later forced to take the blame of all the things they had been doing up to that point (events of volume 4) and it is also mentioned the British empire cuts all relationships with them by that point. Basically, Germany gets fucked up badly by everyone in this setting, which would indeed give a fair reason for them to be the ignition fire of WWI later on.

Already answered about Russia, and the other ones I can't really remember if they are ever mentioned aside fom India probably. India is Asura's county (ranked 2th in the evening party), and I'm pretty sure he mentions some conflict going on in his country during the events of volume 10-12, but I can't really remember what it was exactly.

Sorry man, I don’t want you to go through all the previous novels to hunt down info for my own selfishness. I will be patient and wait to read it myself.

I can't remember much about the french empire right now.

It was the French Third Republic actually

…unless it is still an empire in UMD?, I say as I unsubtly ask another question

The German empire had to back out of all the conflict and is pretty much expelled from the academy after the events of volume 7, where they attempt to attack Raishin and his friends again, but are later forced to take the blame of all the things they had been doing up to that point (events of volume 4) and it is also mentioned the British empire cuts all relationships with them by that point.

Can you tell more details about that? Was it Rosenberg and Rosenkreutz again?

I'm pretty sure he mentions some conflict going on in his country during the events of volume 10-12, but I can't really remember what it was exactly.

I’m not sure what it would be either, the closest I got to conflicts in India in the 1900s was the Partition of Bengal, which provoked social unrest, riots, and bomb attacks until 1911.

By the way, another question: one of the spoilers mentions that “Asura belongs to some mystical race with powerful magic.” Is it true, or a distortion? If true, does that mean he is a Promised Child like Loki and Frey, or is it something else?

Spoiler for King's name:

I'm pretty sure his actual name was never mentioned before

A shame.

Spoiler for Gloria's real identity:

There's actually some confusion regarding her position and real identity from what I read in your statement, but I'll clarify it here.

Gloria was a legitimate queen. That's a fact. After the king died, the British empire actually sided with her because she blamed Edmund of killing the King (which was true), so that about her legitimacy is at least wrong, she was the real queen.
Now about the foreigner part, it's actually wrong too but I can *kind* of see where the misunderstanding for those vague spoilers could've come from.
Gloria was a legitimate British citizen, but her name is fake. Her real name is "Shirley". There's actually a lot of info regarding this and Charl's dad, but I'll leave that for later.

Cool!

Speaking of the queen, a spoiler about the academy invasion by the Royal Army says that, as the queen of England, she has control over an automaton called “Juggernaut”. Could you tell me more about it?

Originally Posted by wAzure

Spoiler for Kimberly:

It's true she doesn't like being called Amy anymore, but that has nothing to do with any war at all.

She kind of hates that name now because it always reminds her of her weak self that she used to be during those days. Kimberly has always been described to originally had always hated everything related to magic. It's like a bad name she doesn't like to remember because of all of that.

Now, the actual reason why she hates magic is implied to be because she was really bad at it, as this is also the same reason why she is attracted to Raishin and Henri above any other character; because it was implied she also used to be looked down upon because of her non existent talent, same as with these two(volume 14), but it's never clarified in any of the volumes, so there's that.

Thanks for the explanation! What's Kimberly's magic speciality? The spoilers of volume 9 said she briefly fights Raishin and she subdues him, before preparing to shoot him with an anti-magic bullet and is interrupted by a meteor shower. How did she win against him, and is the anti-magic bullets her only advantage?

Spoiler for Ellen Belew:

It was stated the first Belew's name was Ellen Belew. It is probably a short name for "Eleanor" though.

Thanks, spoilers in this thread have this frustrating tendency of not properly Romanizing the names, so that’s why I had “Irene” at times (since there is no “L” in Japanese). Same thing for “Orga”, despite the fact that this one didn’t even make sense and Olga was pretty much the obvious translation.

Fairies/Spirits : (snip)

Very clear explanation, thanks!

Spoiler for Dragons and Drake:

Dragons actually never existed in these series. Or at least, it's never stated they did, so that's another fake spoiler you read somewhere.

Drake - Drake was a monster that lived deep inside the mountains, where he raised 7 different dragons--Or at least that's what the legend said but Ellen Belew didn't give a damn about it and still went out to discover the truth by herself.

People complained about Sigmund who was a dragon that always attacked the small towns to eat their livestock. Ellen eventually goes and befriends Sigmund who was never bad to begin with, just afraid of what humans were capable of. Sigmund tells Ellen the truth about Drake, who was already dead by the time she reached his mansion in the mountains.

Drake was an extremely skilled magician in what fauna was regarded, and reptiles in that matter. Drake didn't like killing humans for his experiments, that's why everything he ever attempted to do was tested on his own body. As a result, his body transfigured and deformed itself, which gave him a reptile-monster-like look that scared anyone that ever saw him, which is where the legend came from.

Drake was close to reach the "truth of the universe", as that also allowed him to create the magic circuit Gram or "Demonic Sword". The magic circuit itself is said to be really huge, as it is a circuit that interacts with the truth of the universe or the void itself. For this reason, the actual magic circuit is stored inside "Vallhalla" which is said to be a different dimension too, where the conscious of the Gram Dragons are also stored in. And yes, there used to be 7 grams through the history, but by the events of the series, there's only 2 left that are alive, Tooru and Sigmund.

Vallhalla is probably another dimension that stores the Gram magic circuit and the Gram's individual personalities/souls. This is the reason why Sigmund's soul is "pulled back from Vallhalla" when Tooru entrusts his "command rights" to Sigurd, a baby dragon that was created thanks to Sigmund's design, Raishin's magical energy and the 'body-manufacture-technique' (Cell) that Shouko provided.

The "command right" is a small contender that every gram dragon has, that allows them to store their personality and soul from Vallhalla. When Sigmund was first killed, he lost this contender, which is why he couldn't come back even when he was given a new body by Shouko. When Tooru entrusted his command-right contender to Charl after Olga lost to her, Sigurd ate it, and it was possible for Sigmund to come back once again from Vallhalla.

I think this is enough about Sigmund for you to understand what he and his brothers were, and what Drake actually was.

Interesting. Do we at least know the names of the rest of Sigmund and Thor’s kin?

Spoiler for Black Rose's Hades:

Hades, as in the realm itself, the greek underworld. It's probably another dimension manipulation antic like Vallhalla, but I'm not sure.

Black Rose hasn't shown any actual automaton that is capable of doing this, so I can't say for sure what allows her to open doors to that realm wherever she wants yet, although it still proves she's very dangerous if she's capable of doing such thing.

Lots of alternate dimensions in the series, though it seems confined to the mythological afterlives.

Related to that, does that mean Black Rose’s granddaughter (if the spoilers aren’t lying to me), the Round Dorothy MacGuffin, has access to Hades? Spoilers called her a necromancer using skeletons as puppets, but your summaries would explain it better.

Spoiler for Nectar:

"Nectar" is the official name of the magic association. The "Crusaders" are the battle-capable magicians that serve to it. There's nothing else to it, and I don't think there's a "Grey Cross" here.

Sorry, that was more distorted spoilers, more specifically this one that says Grey Cross is the combat division of the Association.

If you have more questions after reading all my answers here, or any other questions at all, don't hesitate to ask. Same goes to anyone in here.

Last questions of this round:

What is Phoenix? The unfinished translation of volume 8 mentions:

"From what I heard, that guy Loki defeated the doll known as the Phoenix, right?"

Raishin hitting the heart of the matter without warning caused Komurasaki to jump totally.

"I did hear that it's a legendary monster, an automaton that can't be dealt with using flames. Since Loki managed to defeat that kind of monster using Cherubim, he must have used a really amazing move, right?"

But in spoilers about later volumes, it says Loki possess something also called Phoenix, though it is unclear if it means a new ability, a new circuit, or whatever. Can you shed some light on this?

Also, this passage of volume 4:

Alice Bernstein. On the surface she was the daughter of an American Baron, but in truth, the name Bernstein— it was one that was descended from Germanic nobility.

What does it mean? I think it’s part of Alice’s cover as Rutherford’s secretary, but I’m not too sure. Does it mean she has some ties to Germany? Or to America?

Thank you in advance!

[dragon213]

just wondering, but has Rashin shown any interest in any of the girls? I only watched the anime, so if he have started to like someone.

[tuckersister]

I think Rasshin like Char, but is patient in waiting til she open her feelings. Right now his main focus is his brother.

Aside for Rasshin, I have hear too much opinion of Magus for the other characters. I wonder what's their view of him?

[wAzure]

Originally Posted by bakato

What are Hinowa's powers? She doesn't seem to have an automaton. If it's just spirits, then does she even qualify as a puppeteer?

She, just like her Izanagi clan, can all control what was perfectly described on volume 15 as "demon's spirits" which is something close to what would be the power to control the "death energy". This allows Hinowa to summon all kinds of different characteristic Japanese folkloric demons, using jewels and daggers, etc, as a catalyst/offering/contender.

Yes, she qualifies as a puppeteer because of this.

Originally Posted by Massivela

Oh okay then.

First thing on my mind is the topic of "synthetic humans" or humans with machine parts or other things in them. How are they made? And what makes their "manufacture" different from banned dolls?

I guess you are talking about the Machine soldat from germany, in which case it's only humans with magic circuits/parts in their bodies. Banned dolls are different because they are originally not living beings, but rather things created using human parts, which would be the contrary.

Then there's the special category of "artificial human" which is made from Karyuusai's puppeteer technique called "cell" that creates dolls with human traits, because they are basically made literally from scratch, from the molecular level. This technique makes humanoids. Basically, dolls with a perfectly real human body with the ability to grow like the three sisters, but equipped with a magic circuit and high magic affinity, since they are not exactly 'entirely humans' either.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Speaking of Sonechka, is Olga the #3 Round a Russian as well? Though, according to spoilers, her family name is “Saladin”, so that doesn’t sound very Russian. Her grandmother Astrid doesn’t look like it too. If Olga is Russian though, what is her relationship with Sonechka, if there is even any?

Olga isn't Russian.

Olga doesn't think much of Sonechka, but Sonechka sees Olga as her worthy rival, so there's that.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Another tangent, but Olga made me think of her lover August Veyron (is that his name?). The spoilers mentioned something about them being apart due to being related to one of the Roses, but it says “son of the White Rose” as August, but your list of the Roses didn’t have a White Rose in it. Was that yet again an incorrect spoiler/translation?

Yes that's his name, although Veyron could be romanized differently.

They were both used by the roses to mess with Raishin and Charl's father during the events of volume 9. Olga was Veyron's lover, but she got her memory wiped by the roses, because love between two different factions (among the roses) is forbidden. I don't remember if Veyron was the son of the White Rose, nor do I remember if there's any mention of a White Rose, but he definitely was part of another faction within the Roses.

Originally Posted by allfictions

It was the French Third Republic actually

…unless it is still an empire in UMD?, I say as I unsubtly ask another question

Yes, it is still an empire.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Can you tell more details about that? Was it Rosenberg and Rosenkreutz again?

Yes, it was Rosenberg and his knight group again. They attempt to take revenge with both Raishin and Loki, and Rosenberg had a legenday automaton with him during volume 7, called Phoenix.

They had their plans messed up by both Alice and Rutherford, but it was always Rutherford's intention to make the British empire server any and all relationship with Germany, as they were forced to take all the blame for the assassination of Cedric Grandville.

Originally Posted by allfictions

By the way, another question: one of the spoilers mentions that “Asura belongs to some mystical race with powerful magic.” Is it true, or a distortion? If true, does that mean he is a Promised Child like Loki and Frey, or is it something else?

It is true. Asura has some kind of special lineage that makes him have really strong magic affinity, which causes his eyes to turn gold whenever he is fighting seriously. (Red is considered strong already, but very few people have gold eyes in this series, which is considered an even more "godly" magic affinity trait, and of course, stronger than red) (Only Astrid, one member from the crusada knights and Asura have ever been described to have gold eyes).

I don't know if he could be called a promised Child, but I think he is, same as Loki and Frey.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Speaking of the queen, a spoiler about the academy invasion by the Royal Army says that, as the queen of England, she has control over an automaton called “Juggernaut”. Could you tell me more about it?

Juggernaut is basically a really huge, giant golem-like automaton that is powered by fuel (or that's what I remember) and has really high destructive power and defense. It is controlled by one puppeteer inside, but only that.

Basically, a huge destructive military weapon.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Thanks for the explanation! What's Kimberly's magic speciality? The spoilers of volume 9 said she briefly fights Raishin and she subdues him, before preparing to shoot him with an anti-magic bullet and is interrupted by a meteor shower. How did she win against him, and is the anti-magic bullets her only advantage?

Kimberly doesn't have a magic specialty. She's bad with magic in general.

The second part is a fake spoiler. In fact, it is Raishin who subdues Kimberly at one point(he uses his kouyokujin threads to bind her), because he had temporally joined teams with Edmund to take over the royal palace.

I do remember there was an scene just before the meteor shower in which Kimberly attempts to stop Raishin, but she isn't really able to do it, or rather, Raishin doesn't even take her seriously.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Thanks, spoilers in this thread have this frustrating tendency of not properly Romanizing the names, so that’s why I had “Irene” at times (since there is no “L” in Japanese). Same thing for “Orga”, despite the fact that this one didn’t even make sense and Olga was pretty much the obvious translation.

Yes, the romanization of names is usually something troublesome to do, if there's no official source for the name already. What I usually do when I translate stuff is just google the name to see if there's a "standard" romanization for the names, and in machine doll, almost 90% of the names already have really standard romanizations, with exceptions being some weird Izanagi incantations obscure shit.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Interesting. Do we at least know the names of the rest of Sigmund and Thor’s kin?

No, the rest of the Gram's dragons names were never mentioned, sadly.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Lots of alternate dimensions in the series, though it seems confined to the mythological afterlives.

Yes, those alternate dimension seem to really exist inside this universe.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Related to that, does that mean Black Rose’s granddaughter (if the spoilers aren’t lying to me), the Round Dorothy MacGuffin, has access to Hades? Spoilers called her a necromancer using skeletons as puppets, but your summaries would explain it better.

She doesn't have access to Black's Rose Hades. At least, up until volume 15, she has never tried to use it or something.

She is indeed a necromancer, and she controls a lot of skeletons when she fights, as puppets indeed.

I think Black Rose has a very similar way to fight, but I haven't seen her fight anyone yet.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Sorry, that was more distorted spoilers, more specifically this one that says Grey Cross is the combat division of the Association.

Well, I already told you, that Grey Cross name isn't even mentioned anywhere that I remember.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Last questions of this round:

What is Phoenix? The unfinished translation of volume 8 mentions:

But in spoilers about later volumes, it says Loki possess something also called Phoenix, though it is unclear if it means a new ability, a new circuit, or whatever. Can you shed some light on this?

Phoenix is a legendary-class automaton, part of the Lemegeton collection. Rozenberg uses this automaton during volume 7 to fight Loki.

As a legendary-class automaton, it is extremely strong and it can not be defeated by normal means, as all kinds of explosive attacks (or jett attacks like Cherubim's) are absorbed by the bird and turned into magic energy. Loki had to use his atomic-heart-reactor to raise his magic energy and use telekinesis to cut it down in half. It was a really hack move, but it almost killed Loki too, so it's never viable to use his heart like that. (Although if Loki does use his heart like this, he is above a Rose-Level, much like Raishin's kouyokujin. This is also why I said "limit-break" Loki was another story entirely during my long essay about powerlevels ).

So about the next spoiler, yes, it is mentioned again because Loki's new automaton (Jibril) is equipped with four different magic circuits - Fragarach(Perfect oscillation control), Sileighty (Sword dance of wing), Phoenix (eternity flame), and Adarugia (Sacred thunder treasure) - which are all the magic circuits of enemies Loki defeated in the past.

Originally Posted by allfictions

Also, this passage of volume 4:

What does it mean? I think it’s part of Alice’s cover as Rutherford’s secretary, but I’m not too sure. Does it mean she has some ties to Germany? Or to America?

Thank you in advance!

Her fake name is Alice Bernstein and, although I can't remember all too well about that, I think that name did indeed have something to do with Germany, because that's were Rutherford could get his hands on the Fragarach magic circuit, and he used Alice for it.

Her real name is Alice Rutherford though, she's the director of the academy, Edward Rutherford's real daughter.

Originally Posted by dragon213

just wondering, but has Rashin shown any interest in any of the girls? I only watched the anime, so if he have started to like someone.

I would've have said no, but during volume 15, it is heavily implied Raishin loves/used to love Hinowa.

Originally Posted by tuckersister

Aside for Rasshin, I have hear too much opinion of Magus for the other characters. I wonder what's their view of him?

Raishins's friends see Magnus as an enemy, and are even willing to help him kill Tenzen when the time comes. Loki even said so himself during volume 15, that if Raishin had asked, he'd have helped him kill Magnus.


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Sorry for the late reply. I have been really busy and I will continue to be busy for a little longer, but I have finally finished reading volume 15, so if you guys have questions about it, I'll answer them.

Some of my input about the volume itself:

Spoiler for Volume 15:

Sadly, the entire volume was a huge teaser for what will happen in volume 16. Although we do get some really awesome fights like Raishin VS Loki, Tenzen VS the entire Izanagi clan, it still left me in a huge "WHY!" at the end, because the volume ended right when Raishin and Tenzen are about to have their final and long awaited battle.

The volume also took me by surprise at several points, and there's even some gruesome character deaths in it too.

Spoiler for Who dies?:

Frey, Griselda, Rutherford and professor Percival.

Frey is basically crushed and totally destroyed when she gets sandwiched between Gyunes and [insert legendary-class automaton from the lemegeton book whose name I forgot already] after Percival had sacrificed his entire body to turn it into a magic energy pool to save everyone in the evening party battle coliseum that was floating in the sky thanks to Kira (Violet Rose) and Edmund antics.

Griselda gets sliced in half by Raishin's sword master, Unjyaku.

Rutherford gets his heart stabbed and crushed by Edmund after he plugs it off from Alice's body, because she always had Rutherford's heart within her, and Rutherford had Alice's.

Some images:

Frey says goodbye to Loki.
Edmund makes Icarus extract Rutherford's heart from Alice.
Rutherford falls to the ground after he vomits blood in front of everyone at the Nectar stronghold.

What can I say? You never know with machine doll, but the detail in which these deaths were described will make me extremely mad if the author somehow says they weren't really dead in the next volume with the help of some obscure asspull.

Aside from that, some more key points and a lot of infodump on both the Akabane and Izanagi clan. In any case, a lot of things were explained.

[hyddty]

Originally Posted by wAzure

She, just like her Izanagi clan, can all control what was perfectly described on volume 15 as "demon's spirits" which is something close to what would be the power to control the "death energy". This allows Hinowa to summon all kinds of different characteristic Japanese folkloric demons, using jewels and daggers, etc, as a catalyst/offering/contender.

Yes, she qualifies as a puppeteer because of this.



I guess you are talking about the Machine soldat from germany, in which case it's only humans with magic circuits/parts in their bodies. Banned dolls are different because they are originally not living beings, but rather things created using human parts, which would be the contrary.

Then there's the special category of "artificial human" which is made from Karyuusai's puppeteer technique called "cell" that creates dolls with human traits, because they are basically made literally from scratch, from the molecular level. This technique makes humanoids. Basically, dolls with a perfectly real human body with the ability to grow like the three sisters, but equipped with a magic circuit and high magic affinity, since they are not exactly 'entirely humans' either.



Olga isn't Russian.

Olga doesn't think much of Sonechka, but Sonechka sees Olga as her worthy rival, so there's that.



Yes that's his name, although Veyron could be romanized differently.

They were both used by the roses to mess with Raishin and Charl's father during the events of volume 9. Olga was Veyron's lover, but she got her memory wiped by the roses, because love between two different factions (among the roses) is forbidden. I don't remember if Veyron was the son of the White Rose, nor do I remember if there's any mention of a White Rose, but he definitely was part of another faction within the Roses.



Yes, it is still an empire.



Yes, it was Rosenberg and his knight group again. They attempt to take revenge with both Raishin and Loki, and Rosenberg had a legenday automaton with him during volume 7, called Phoenix.

They had their plans messed up by both Alice and Rutherford, but it was always Rutherford's intention to make the British empire server any and all relationship with Germany, as they were forced to take all the blame for the assassination of Cedric Grandville.



It is true. Asura has some kind of special lineage that makes him have really strong magic affinity, which causes his eyes to turn gold whenever he is fighting seriously. (Red is considered strong already, but very few people have gold eyes in this series, which is considered an even more "godly" magic affinity trait, and of course, stronger than red) (Only Astrid, one member from the crusada knights and Asura have ever been described to have gold eyes).

I don't know if he could be called a promised Child, but I think he is, same as Loki and Frey.



Juggernaut is basically a really huge, giant golem-like automaton that is powered by fuel (or that's what I remember) and has really high destructive power and defense. It is controlled by one puppeteer inside, but only that.

Basically, a huge destructive military weapon.



Kimberly doesn't have a magic specialty. She's bad with magic in general.

The second part is a fake spoiler. In fact, it is Raishin who subdues Kimberly at one point(he uses his kouyokujin threads to bind her), because he had temporally joined teams with Edmund to take over the royal palace.

I do remember there was an scene just before the meteor shower in which Kimberly attempts to stop Raishin, but she isn't really able to do it, or rather, Raishin doesn't even take her seriously.



Yes, the romanization of names is usually something troublesome to do, if there's no official source for the name already. What I usually do when I translate stuff is just google the name to see if there's a "standard" romanization for the names, and in machine doll, almost 90% of the names already have really standard romanizations, with exceptions being some weird Izanagi incantations obscure shit.



No, the rest of the Gram's dragons names were never mentioned, sadly.



Yes, those alternate dimension seem to really exist inside this universe.



She doesn't have access to Black's Rose Hades. At least, up until volume 15, she has never tried to use it or something.

She is indeed a necromancer, and she controls a lot of skeletons when she fights, as puppets indeed.

I think Black Rose has a very similar way to fight, but I haven't seen her fight anyone yet.



Well, I already told you, that Grey Cross name isn't even mentioned anywhere that I remember.



Phoenix is a legendary-class automaton, part of the Lemegeton collection. Rozenberg uses this automaton during volume 7 to fight Loki.

As a legendary-class automaton, it is extremely strong and it can not be defeated by normal means, as all kinds of explosive attacks (or jett attacks like Cherubim's) are absorbed by the bird and turned into magic energy. Loki had to use his atomic-heart-reactor to raise his magic energy and use telekinesis to cut it down in half. It was a really hack move, but it almost killed Loki too, so it's never viable to use his heart like that. (Although if Loki does use his heart like this, he is above a Rose-Level, much like Raishin's kouyokujin. This is also why I said "limit-break" Loki was another story entirely during my long essay about powerlevels ).

So about the next spoiler, yes, it is mentioned again because Loki's new automaton (Jibril) is equipped with four different magic circuits - Fragarach(Perfect oscillation control), Sileighty (Sword dance of wing), Phoenix (eternity flame), and Adarugia (Sacred thunder treasure) - which are all the magic circuits of enemies Loki defeated in the past.




Her fake name is Alice Bernstein and, although I can't remember all too well about that, I think that name did indeed have something to do with Germany, because that's were Rutherford could get his hands on the Fragarach magic circuit, and he used Alice for it.

Her real name is Alice Rutherford though, she's the director of the academy, Edward Rutherford's real daughter.



I would've have said no, but during volume 15, it is heavily implied Raishin loves/used to love Hinowa.



Raishins's friends see Magnus as an enemy, and are even willing to help him kill Tenzen when the time comes. Loki even said so himself during volume 15, that if Raishin had asked, he'd have helped him kill Magnus.


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Sorry for the late reply. I have been really busy and I will continue to be busy for a little longer, but I have finally finished reading volume 15, so if you guys have questions about it, I'll answer them.

Some of my input about the volume itself:

Spoiler for Volume 15:

Sadly, the entire volume was a huge teaser for what will happen in volume 16. Although we do get some really awesome fights like Raishin VS Loki, Tenzen VS the entire Izanagi clan, it still left me in a huge "WHY!" at the end, because the volume ended right when Raishin and Tenzen are about to have their final and long awaited battle.

The volume also took me by surprise at several points, and there's even some gruesome character deaths in it too.

Spoiler for Who dies?:

Frey, Griselda, Rutherford and professor Percival.

Frey is basically crushed and totally destroyed when she gets sandwiched between Gyunes and [insert legendary-class automaton from the lemegeton book whose name I forgot already] after Percival had sacrificed his entire body to turn it into a magic energy pool to save everyone in the evening party battle coliseum that was floating in the sky thanks to Kira (Violet Rose) and Edmund antics.

Griselda gets sliced in half by Raishin's sword master, Unjyaku.

Rutherford gets his heart stabbed and crushed by Edmund after he plugs it off from Alice's body, because she always had Rutherford's heart within her, and Rutherford had Alice's.

Some images:

Frey says goodbye to Loki.
Edmund makes Icarus extract Rutherford's heart from Alice.
Rutherford falls to the ground after he vomits blood in front of everyone at the Nectar stronghold.

What can I say? You never know with machine doll, but the detail in which these deaths were described will make me extremely mad if the author somehow says they weren't really dead in the next volume with the help of some obscure asspull.

Aside from that, some more key points and a lot of infodump on both the Akabane and Izanagi clan. In any case, a lot of things were explained.

Spoiler for thought:

wtf ? frey is killed Didnt think that the author was actually kill one of the MC but who knows right. Can you remind me who is Griselda again xD Reading so many spoilers make me forgot who she is

[Estzero1]

Wow. A lot happend .

Originally Posted by wAzure

I would've have said no, but during volume 15, it is heavily implied Raishin loves/used to love Hinowa.

Really. That's interesting. Could you say something more about this?

[N3W1ife]

hai guys, when i checked the vol.5 chapter 4 of hayashi's translation there was a password...

does anyone knew the password or hayashi is still working on that chapter?
sorry, its been a while since i checked his site ^_^

[hyddty]

Originally Posted by N3W1ife

hai guys, when i checked the vol.5 chapter 4 of hayashi's translation there was a password...

does anyone knew the password or hayashi is still working on that chapter?
sorry, its been a while since i checked his site ^_^

Well, he did say that he is still translating but RL just took so much of him. I guess he will upload that chapter soon but who know, he seem really stress out imo

[tuckersister]

Still nothing new as always.

[hyddty]

Originally Posted by tuckersister

Still nothing new as always.

Well, the new vol hasnt been announce yet and translation is dead.....

[AP24]

The next volume is the final one, so the author is probably taking his time to make sure the series will have a proper ending.

[OmegaWeaponZ]

^Now that is commendable.

[tuckersister]

Any word on the release date of the last volume?

[hyddty]

Originally Posted by tuckersister

Any word on the release date of the last volume?

Nothing new so far

[AP24]

I noticed in the past couple of years the manga chapter releases were not as frequent as they used to be and the number of pages per chapter is a lot smaller. I think they were planning on ending the manga at around the same time as the LN. But because the LN kept being on hiatus they had to delay the manga chapter releases and cut down the number of pages per chapter release.

The latest manga chapter is almost at LN vol 3 ending so the LN final volume should be out sometime this year. Too bad we'll never see the manga or anime go beyond LN Vol 3.

[Teza]

Frey is dead?......D: are you killing me? loki can died, but no frey. october and any signal of the vol 16?.

[ninja6398]

Technically this is the second time Frey died.