2012-06-01, 10:36 | Link #41 |
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^If Luffy wasn't labeled as a pirate, then he would be labeled as a revolutionarie or rebel/traitor due to his actions. The WG is an organization that has killed entire groups of people simply because they might posses knowledge that the WG wants controlled, so any adventure based group would, of course, eventually be targeted simply because they are bound to learn something the WG doesn't want known.
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2012-06-01, 10:52 | Link #42 | |
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if we go back to the origins of piracy, pirates were mere folks who were forced to go off to sea and raid other ships because they were starving. they mostly stole food and other goods, not gold. one of the earliest known pirates were the vikings. they were masters of the seas, explorers as well as hunters. treasure-hunting and plundering pirates came later and they were heavily romanticized in books and films. perhaps oda's view of pirates is more similar to the earlier versions, just a band of brothers in search of adventure and maybe a better future. oda's op-verse is a dystopian world where the people are no more than slaves to an almighty controlling government. the rich are insanely rich, they enjoy all the privileges that money and stature could bring, but there are so few of them. while the poor are neglected, despised, shun and even starving. the world government controls everything, including the seas, and those who dare cross them without permission are considered criminals and therefore hunted by the marines. i suppose they passed this law to prevent people from discovering the truth behind the void century. exploration leads to knowledge, knowledge is power and that power could bring down the world government. they simply could not allow that. not to mention that the one piece could possibly be a key figure in this so-called government conspiracy. if it is, then searching for it is a huge crime in the eyes of the WG. besides, i think oda used the concept of pirates to symbolize rebellion. and of course, he thought that pirates are cool and there wasn't a manga that had pirates as protagonists so he figured why not?
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2012-06-01, 12:55 | Link #45 | |
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The OP world consists primarily of ocean and (small) islands, not continents like ours. Thus most of the more powerful characters in that world do not primarily stay in a single place because each place is so limited in scope (think a Caribbean island).. and so as outlaws become more powerful they will inevitably seek their fortunes by boat. An outlaw on the ocean can be called a pirate. If Luffy and Co paid any respect to WG laws, they would indeed be bounty hunters. You are right though that before the Arabasta arc, their actions were that of mere adventurers. Their classification as pirates was the result of two factors: 1) the fact that they called themselves pirates and they had a jolly roger and 2) the actions of the corrupt Marine Nezumi.
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2012-06-01, 21:46 | Link #46 | |
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Yeah Axe-Hand Morgan was corrupt and then get send to jail but you can't go beating up the marines just because you feel like it . So from very early at least Luffy would have been called a outlaw. |
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2012-06-01, 22:17 | Link #47 | |
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My bad.
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2012-06-02, 04:33 | Link #48 |
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It's pretty interesting that zoro fell asleep last (most like bc he is able to drink heavy amounts of alcohol) and nanji (nice name btw whoever came up with that one) woke up first. I wonder if the fact that nanji didn't have a head wound/bump had something to do with that.
Is it just me or does it seem like the samurai doesn't really know what a devil fruit is? Calling it magic and the consequences of eating it as if people don't already know. If that is the case it seems like wano country is pretty isolated from the rest of the world and i'm really interested to see how the kid was kidnapped. Also someone mentioned about nanji being the closest to the samurai, this makes sense bc he took original responsibility for the head. So Law has "a certain problem" and can't analyze the drugs, keep thinking: where are the heart pirates?? |
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2012-06-02, 14:14 | Link #51 |
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As an aside, and to get partially back to the previous discussion, part of the reason I first started reading One Piece a decade ago was for the irony of the situation. Specifically, I received some minor amusement out of the fact that I was helping to pirate a manga about pirates. Since then, I've always wondered if Oda was somewhat prescient in choosing to create a manga about pirates right when internet piracy was becoming such a big issue...
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2012-06-04, 10:24 | Link #52 |
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It's been near a decade since I started OP myself, though I first read it through the American SJ issues. However, I discovered through the nets that the original Japanese release was FAR ahead of the American ones, so I did a bit of digging around, found some scans, and.... well, the rest is history. Boy, that sure takes me back....
Anyhow, just putting up the usual reminder that the next spoiler should be out by early Wednesday.... |
2012-06-05, 09:15 | Link #53 |
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Top-Selling Manga in Japan by Series: 2012 (First Half)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...012-first-half
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2012-06-05, 10:38 | Link #54 |
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It never ceases to amaze me how OP volume sales are so overwhelming compared to the others. First and second place aren't even close to each other, there's almost an eleven million difference.
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2012-06-05, 22:45 | Link #56 |
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To be fair, last year involved the end of the Whitebeard war as well as Ace's death. So far this year has featured fake-Strawhats, mook Fishmen, and other minor annoyances. In other words, very little of actual interest (beyond some great comedy and a few great setups for future chapters).
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2012-06-06, 09:10 | Link #58 | |
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When Strong World came out there was a sudden hype around OP. Old readers who stopped at some point and new readers came together. The readership rose in a very short amount of time from 2 Million to 3 Million. A lot of those “new” readers bought the old Volumes. So around 500 000+ people bought around 55 “old” volumes. Those back door sales caused the insane numbers of last year. Fact is that the fishman island arc volumes sold better than the Marineford war arc volumes. The reason why it has sold less than last year is simple because the hype has lessened. Less people are buying the old volumes and therefore the sales are not as high as the ones from last year. |
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2012-06-06, 14:25 | Link #60 |
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^Yeah, that was rather enlightening, wasn't it? In fact, I even remember learning from somewhere (pretty sure it was AP) years ago that a bunch of fans had dropped the series around the time of the Skypiea arc (supposedly they found it too boring and dragged out..... which is a shame that they felt that way about such an excellent storyline). But if those same fans were the ones who returned to it.... well, that's great to hear! Though I'm definitely wondering how well-received the current storyline is over in Japan.....
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