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Marcus H. · 2013-04-21, 02:41

I thought that the story of Henneko Episode 2 and this would totally put me at a downer mood for the rest of the day.

But I managed to understand Kaori's motives behind her actions, although it may be interpreted as bitchy behavior.

Kaori and Saori are simply total equal opposites to each other. Saori is distant to others due to her fear of men and her sheer timidness, while Kaori appears distant to everyone else due to simply being a free spirit — the kind of person who wouldn't stay at the same place doing the same thing at the same time. Kaori plans to change Saori's social problems, but she also needed to make a compromise in not allowing her support to affect both of their lives in the process.

In the end, Saori, who began to cherish socializing with others, found it betraying that everyone let go of their bonds in a snap of a finger. (Saori was probably reminded of this when Kirino went abroad without telling anyone about it.)

The actions Kaori made were kinda selfish, I admit, but it was brave of her to risk losing her beloved Saori so that her heart would be stronger when times like this arrive. Fortunately, she now has her bonds with Kirino, Kyousuke and Kuroneko to hold on to.

Honestly, as an avid fan of anime and manga, I find myself relating very much to Saori's situation. Reality would remind us that the 3D world is always at higher priority than 2D, but that doesn't mean that we have to just throw away the bonds that we have with people that we have met through anime. I think I was really hit hard by this episode, haha.

frivolity · 2013-04-21, 03:58

Kugyu's star power seems to have somewhat waned. Her new roles seem to be limited mostly to side characters. It was a good performance in this episdoe though.

I can relate to the glasses motif since I wear quite a large pair myself, and I feel naked without them. (Practically blind too.)

Tsundere Louise · 2013-04-21, 04:12

This episode was everything that I've wished from the 2nd season. Everything was just perfect and I hope that the creators will keep it up till the last, 15th episode.

DingoEnderZOE2 · 2013-04-21, 05:19

This was a very nice laid back episode, that touched on the very large threat that as time goes on bonds CAN very well be tested with the passage of time and once "Real life" starts to run it's course.

As someone who's own old close circle of friends has also started to grow increasingly distant, I was TOTALLY able to relate to Saori's feelings of betrayal at how everyone just went their separate ways and weren't as close as before, but as Kaori said when Saori confronted her about it her words of "IT CAN'T BE HELPED." it's like I can feel how devastating those words can be...

Though I do kinda think this kind of episode would have been more appropriate as an OVA or an extra episode. >_<

Azuma Denton · 2013-04-21, 06:56

Rewatched it...
And interesting...

A sketch of Nightmare~chan spotted.

So I think that the ongoing rumours about Ganma's identity is true.

SidVicious · 2013-04-21, 08:59

More Saori!

kobester11 · 2013-04-21, 13:53

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Yeah, this ep is kinda boring and I know it's for character development but yeah. It's like nothing happened. If this story would be a kind-of support for the succeeding episodes, or will become a major plot device, I could've given a much higher rating.

Wandering_Youth · 2013-04-21, 15:01

I knew Saori was tall, but damnnnn this girl is huge...not just in height either.

Although it was akward how they suddenly jumped into this little episode I was glad they finally talking about Saori's past.

Rising Dragon · 2013-04-21, 15:40

Now that I think about it, this episode puts into perspective what Saori felt in episode 13 of the first season, with how Kirino left without telling anyone but her family.

Julio C · 2013-04-21, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Kugimiya Rie as the older sister of Tamura Yukari

?! I don't know how to feel

And both did Iori from the iDOLM@STER.

Damm, that was a wonderful episode. It was a very interesting backstory and all the crazy connections we got to see. I wonder if Ruri will find out that Kanata wrote Maschera? Well hopefully we'll see it.

calorie · 2013-04-22, 13:03

The highlight for me was "Pretty Garden". What an otaku safe haven, one could spend days there without ever being bored (dem figurine filled shelves and consoles).

Saori's story wasn't all that interesting to watch but I couldn't say I saw it coming either. It was decent however, and it's nice to finally have Saori's identity revealed.

Qikz · 2013-04-23, 04:41

After playing the first game on PSP I've been almost begging for them to finally show ojou-sama Saori in anime form and god did they not dissapoint <333

GalacticPulsar · 2013-04-23, 21:25

so near the end of this episode of oreimo,it is implied that kyousuke has met kanata before. Where in season 1 was this shown? Furthermore Kirino does not recognize kanata but Kyousuke does. So kyousuke knows kanata but kirino doesn't?

Rising Dragon · 2013-04-23, 21:26

Kanata's never appeared in season 1.

bakAnki · 2013-04-23, 22:17

Based on Kanata's dialogue, we can assume that they did meet Kanata, as Yamanashi Ganma of course, off-screen on ep 4 season 1. Saori asked which artist Kirino wanted to meet, and Yamanashi Ganma is one of them.

Spoiler for picture from said episode:

Kanata never appeared on that episode (and maybe she was wearing disguise there so Kirino and Kyousuke didn't realize it was her on current episode) but I think the booth where Kyousuke is shocked reading Meruru doujin on booth that has a maid, is Kanata's booth.

Spoiler for reason, comparison with PSP (and LN?):

Archmage1809 · 2013-04-24, 10:20

I have a question. Saori or Kanata is older? Or they're the same?

bakAnki · 2013-04-24, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archmage1809

I have a question. Saori or Kanata is older? Or they're the same?

Kanata is definetely older than Saori. Probably same age as Kaori.
IIRC Kaori is 7 years older than Saori...

Rising Dragon · 2013-04-24, 10:42

I'm fairly certain Kanata's older. Saori is still attending school, so...

Kyuu · 2013-04-26, 05:27

Why didn't anyone tell me about Saori in this episode? I would have watched it sooner!

Patriot's Blade · 2013-04-28, 00:24

what is it with guys who wanted to became a dark prince type something-something character these days in their chuuni forms?
which probably inspired the modern day version such as Lelouch Vi Britannia

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2013-04-21, 02:41	Link #41
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	I thought that the story of Henneko Episode 2 and this would totally put me at a downer mood for the rest of the day. But I managed to understand Kaori's motives behind her actions, although it may be interpreted as bitchy behavior. Kaori and Saori are simply total equal opposites to each other. Saori is distant to others due to her fear of men and her sheer timidness, while Kaori appears distant to everyone else due to simply being a free spirit — the kind of person who wouldn't stay at the same place doing the same thing at the same time. Kaori plans to change Saori's social problems, but she also needed to make a compromise in not allowing her support to affect both of their lives in the process. In the end, Saori, who began to cherish socializing with others, found it betraying that everyone let go of their bonds in a snap of a finger. (Saori was probably reminded of this when Kirino went abroad without telling anyone about it.) The actions Kaori made were kinda selfish, I admit, but it was brave of her to risk losing her beloved Saori so that her heart would be stronger when times like this arrive. Fortunately, she now has her bonds with Kirino, Kyousuke and Kuroneko to hold on to. Honestly, as an avid fan of anime and manga, I find myself relating very much to Saori's situation. Reality would remind us that the 3D world is always at higher priority than 2D, but that doesn't mean that we have to just throw away the bonds that we have with people that we have met through anime. I think I was really hit hard by this episode, haha. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2013-04-21, 04:12	Link #43
Tsundere Louise D-Don't stare, baka... Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Tristinian Academy of Magic	This episode was everything that I've wished from the 2nd season. Everything was just perfect and I hope that the creators will keep it up till the last, 15th episode. __________________

2013-04-21, 05:19	Link #44
DingoEnderZOE2 Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ohayo	This was a very nice laid back episode, that touched on the very large threat that as time goes on bonds CAN very well be tested with the passage of time and once "Real life" starts to run it's course. As someone who's own old close circle of friends has also started to grow increasingly distant, I was TOTALLY able to relate to Saori's feelings of betrayal at how everyone just went their separate ways and weren't as close as before, but as Kaori said when Saori confronted her about it her words of "IT CAN'T BE HELPED." it's like I can feel how devastating those words can be... Though I do kinda think this kind of episode would have been more appropriate as an OVA or an extra episode. >_< __________________ Anime in progress and enjoying: Persona 4 the golden Animes on Hold:None Animes completed:I wanna be the strongest in the world,Super Sonico The Animation, Hajime no Ippo:Rising, Wake up girls,Mangaka-san to Assistant-san to The Animation Anime evaluating:None Manga in progress:None at the moment

2013-04-21, 08:59	Link #46
SidVicious Anime addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: São Paulo/Brazil Age: 46	More Saori! __________________ MyAnimeList AniList

2013-04-21, 06:56	Link #45
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	Rewatched it... And interesting... A sketch of Nightmare~chan spotted. So I think that the ongoing rumours about Ganma's identity is true.

2013-04-21, 13:53	Link #47
kobester11 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Take a wild guess	[mod edit: remove spoiler] Yeah, this ep is kinda boring and I know it's for character development but yeah. It's like nothing happened. If this story would be a kind-of support for the succeeding episodes, or will become a major plot device, I could've given a much higher rating. Last edited by relentlessflame; 2013-04-21 at 22:13.

2013-04-21, 15:01	Link #48
Wandering_Youth lost in wonder forever... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: edge of my dream in the land of twilight...ZzzZzZ	I knew Saori was tall, but damnnnn this girl is huge...not just in height either. Although it was akward how they suddenly jumped into this little episode I was glad they finally talking about Saori's past. __________________

2013-04-21, 15:40	Link #49
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Now that I think about it, this episode puts into perspective what Saori felt in episode 13 of the first season, with how Kirino left without telling anyone but her family. __________________

2013-04-22, 13:03	Link #51
calorie Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tannhäuser Gate Age: 35	The highlight for me was "Pretty Garden". What an otaku safe haven, one could spend days there without ever being bored (dem figurine filled shelves and consoles). Saori's story wasn't all that interesting to watch but I couldn't say I saw it coming either. It was decent however, and it's nice to finally have Saori's identity revealed.

2013-04-23, 04:41	Link #52
Qikz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Age: 33	After playing the first game on PSP I've been almost begging for them to finally show ojou-sama Saori in anime form and god did they not dissapoint <333

2013-04-23, 21:25	Link #53
GalacticPulsar Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Age: 29	so near the end of this episode of oreimo,it is implied that kyousuke has met kanata before. Where in season 1 was this shown? Furthermore Kirino does not recognize kanata but Kyousuke does. So kyousuke knows kanata but kirino doesn't?

2013-04-23, 21:26	Link #54
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Kanata's never appeared in season 1. __________________

2013-04-23, 22:17	Link #55
bakAnki あやせたんの剣 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: bakanki.blogspot.com	Based on Kanata's dialogue, we can assume that they did meet Kanata, as Yamanashi Ganma of course, off-screen on ep 4 season 1. Saori asked which artist Kirino wanted to meet, and Yamanashi Ganma is one of them. Spoiler for picture from said episode: Kanata never appeared on that episode (and maybe she was wearing disguise there so Kirino and Kyousuke didn't realize it was her on current episode) but I think the booth where Kyousuke is shocked reading Meruru doujin on booth that has a maid, is Kanata's booth. Spoiler for reason, comparison with PSP (and LN?): Because it's stated that that maid Kirara sometimes replaces her little sister Kurara to be Kanata's assistant drawing her manga. So it's not weird to see Kirara (or maybe it's Kurara herself, they are twin, IIRC?) help Kanata selling her doujin on comicket as well __________________ Tumblr \| MyFigureCollection \| Blogspot

2013-04-24, 10:20	Link #56
Archmage1809 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	I have a question. Saori or Kanata is older? Or they're the same?

2013-04-24, 10:42	Link #58
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	I'm fairly certain Kanata's older. Saori is still attending school, so... __________________

2013-04-26, 05:27	Link #59
Kyuu =^^= Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 42° 10' N (Latitude) 87° 33' W (Longitude) Age: 45	Why didn't anyone tell me about Saori in this episode? I would have watched it sooner! __________________ Japanese Mahjong Group \| Currently Watching List \| Click on this - I dare you.

2013-04-28, 00:24	Link #60
Patriot's Blade its Ghost Madoka time!!! Join Date: May 2009 Location: brunei darusalam	what is it with guys who wanted to became a dark prince type something-something character these days in their chuuni forms? which probably inspired the modern day version such as Lelouch Vi Britannia __________________ "legends said that Alto Saotome made a correct decision, he left both Ranka Lee & Sheryl Nome to marry the skies & proceed to make love with her, it was a long sight to behold according to the witnesses, the sky is now pregnant"