2009-10-13, 15:53 | Link #1221 |
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Well then we are back to square one. If you claim those weren't "meta-world presence" but "representation" then I could say the same about everyone except Battler, and therefore everyone could still be the culprit.
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2009-10-13, 17:52 | Link #1225 |
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But when Natsuhi gets calls from the 19th person isn't Erika at one point accounted to be with everyone else. Although I do remember the 19th person claiming that Erika was working with them though (I think it was the 'autumn card' call, but I can't remember for sure)
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2009-10-13, 18:06 | Link #1227 | |
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2009-10-13, 18:10 | Link #1228 | ||
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Which brings me to this question: Could that call have been a recording? It's a plot device used fairly often in stories like this... ...Of course, did they have the ability to record stuff like that easily in 1986? Who says the "man from 19 years ago" is actually the culprit? Erika was never ruled out as an accomplice, right? |
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Another..question...does that men even exist?
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2009-10-13, 18:27 | Link #1233 | |
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There has to be a real-world explanation (that's reasonable) as to why she's on the island. Since The Man From 19 Years Ago also has it out for Natsuhi... I think it's safe to say that's she's definitely involved somehow? |
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2009-10-13, 18:30 | Link #1234 | |
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2009-10-13, 18:30 | Link #1235 | |
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And as Kaiba says, Natsuhi gets herself into bad situations (no one can account for her being in Kinzo's study during the 1st twilight, she was in the closet in the room Hideyoshi was killed in while he was being killed) |
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2009-10-13, 18:32 | Link #1236 | |
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Episode 5 is screwed up because the players at the beginning were Bern and Lambda. Lambda's plan: Imitate Beatrice Bern's plan: Throw Erika on the board, frame Natsuhi, drink tea.
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2009-10-13, 18:45 | Link #1237 |
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As for recording...tape players have been around since before 1986, so it is quite possible. Also considering they would have such plots in "Mission Impossible" back in the late 1960s, having a taped raecord of a voice or taping an incident is not out of the question in 1986 (even the Sony Walkman had a record feature and microphone as early as 1979 with the better ones (journalist quality) coming out in 1984)
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2009-10-13, 18:45 | Link #1238 | |
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But yeah Erika's behavior is literally meta - she rambles at one point about how Battler jumped out of the study and demands a rematch (even though the only reason she lost WAS because of Bern and Lambda not letting Cornelia use the red text for the window) and flails around begging Bern to give her a second chance. Not to mention parading around and calling herself the detective. Hell even the parents behavior towards her is meta - half the time it sounds like they're being controlled into talking with her like they do. |
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2009-10-13, 18:49 | Link #1239 | |
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We only see it in EP5 though.
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