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View Poll Results: Psycho-Pass - Episode 8 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 25 | 37.31% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 21 | 31.34% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 20.90% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 5.97% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.49% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.49% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 1.49% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-11-30, 11:56 | Link #41 | |||
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1) Rather small. It seems to only have two detectives, six or so Enforcers, and a small support staff. 2) In charge of handling crime for an entire large, metropolitan area. It's not surprising that this team is busy, because they're not that large and they're handling an entire city. The fact that this team is apparently sufficient to handle an entire city says that crime probably isn't all that common, in all likelihood. The crime rate has probably gone done, on the whole.
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2012-11-30, 15:31 | Link #43 |
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Er ignore that 2 in the poll, that was an acccident, menat ot give a 10/10 .
Well that episode was just all around amazing. I feel that if I tried to write anything about it, it wouldn't be worthy of its greatness. Well it really depends on how you look at it. We have been shown that this is a society that limits all their stress. We don't even have to worry about our futures because we can easily determine what our aptitude is for certain things. Essentially everyone is mentally healthier, and if they are not and cannot be treated for it, they are removed from the population. A mentally healthier society is a better society isn't it?
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2012-11-30, 17:22 | Link #44 |
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Rikako presents a really interesting analysis of the school system and society at the start of the show where she describes how the system is in place to raise people to fulfill a certain ideal that society demands of them regardless of how they would mature otherwise and into what philosophy they would invest their beliefs. The interesting thing is a society that allows it's children to raise themselves and forge it's own belief systems independent of what society demands of them wouldn't be seen as anything other than anarchy by the very standards of what we deem a society.
It's been a while since an anime has made me think this hard about the situations and ideas it presents and where there are no easy or really wrong answers. |
2012-11-30, 19:00 | Link #45 | |
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I am not necessarily saying Psycho Pass's world is a dystopia but I think they could have done a better job of showing the positives of this system. I don't think we should agree with Makishima right away or at least there should be more debate. Don't get me wrong I highly enjoyed the episode and the show as a whole but its more for the character building, the dialog, and the promising upcoming psychological battle between Kogami & Makishima.
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2012-11-30, 19:47 | Link #46 | ||
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All of these narratives very quickly delve into the negatives of their dystopian settings. If a writer has a particular and troubling vision of the future that he or she wants to explore (and perhaps even present as a warning to the rest of us), I don't think that writer should feel a need to be ambiguous about that vision just for the sheer sake of ambiguity itself. Gen presents a future where humans are over-medicated (to the point that the average human lifespan is actually decreasing), and overly reliant on machines and systems geared to measure and maintain psychological health to maximum efficiency, no matter what the cost. Gen almost certainly sees the real dangers in a world like that. In fact, with this latest arc, it's clear how Gen personally could feel very threatened by a world like Psycho-Pass. Would the VN Saya no Uta survive in a world like Psycho-Pass? I very much doubt it. When portraying a futuristic setting, the key is not ambiguity, moral or otherwise. The key is believability. And here is where Psyco-Pass works exceptionally well, imo. It's not hard at all to see how, in a generation or two, our world could look a lot like the one in Psycho-Pass'. And that's what makes the world of Psycho-Pass so interesting, and chilling, to me. Quote:
If you need ambiguity, here is where you find an intriguing case of it. The protagonists are generally good people who want to do the right thing... but are ultimately enablers of a horrible system. The antagonists are generally horrible people who are entertained by toy-criminals brutally victimizing innocent, moe girls (how much more evil can you get in anime?! )... but those antagonists are right about the system. Darth Vader and his top Storm Troopers really are great guys with good intentions, while Luke Skywalker and Han Solo are total scumbags who love watching innocent people die... but The Empire needs to come crashing down all the same. Now that's quite the twist on the old "white hats vs. black hats" approach, imo.
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2012-11-30, 20:07 | Link #47 |
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Good stuff, Urobutcher. "Titus Andronicus" is your favorite Shakepeare play, right?
I like how they play "Ode to Joy" when the old guy is speaking. Very Evangelion-esque. The murders are good and gruesome, but I thought the scariest part of this episode were the prisoners; the Hannibal Lecter equivalent that they questioned (I forget his name) with the "skinless" tattoo was pretty bad, but I thought the creepiest inmate was the guy with all those dolls. Was that guy supposed to be an otaku? Ayane Sakura (she played Kagami's friend) also did a heartbreaking crying scene. Wish I could've been there to hug her character, which of course is what all crying scenes should do. |
2012-11-30, 20:11 | Link #48 | ||||
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At its core I also feel 1984 is a warning about the future (that book's message still frightens me) that doesn't work as well for me with Psycho Pass. Quote:
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Even though I find him to be a fascinating villain and I am looking forward to watching more of him, I still see him very clearly as a villain. Quote:
edit: What I mean is I can see where a world where people try to create a stress free environment might happen. The warnings about censorship of art for example work for me. However assuming a stress free environment should create a world that initially looks to be free of crime or at least less crime, but right away we see crime hasn't gone away at all and heck it doesn't even seem stress has gone away (even though this is what the system supposedly does). People are so worried about keeping their psycho pass clean, if anything that society seems more worried to not be worried.
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2012-11-30, 20:12 | Link #49 | ||
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MariMite deconstruction and Rozen Maiden reference... Gen has interesting mid-00s anime inspirations, lol. Quote:
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2012-11-30, 20:53 | Link #50 | |
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The entire story is predicated on the ability to determine criminality before a crime is even committed. This is a very basic question... Would a society if it had such an ability use it to protect themselves? This is the logical extension of the choice to use such an ability. Of course much of the story so far has been detailing potential ways such a system could be flawed, but has anything been presented so damning that this society is inherently worse than ours for a majority of people? I do not believe so and that is why I think such a system can be in place. At least that's the way I see it, not saying you have to agree or anything of course .
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2012-11-30, 21:02 | Link #51 |
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And so the criminal gets a taste of her own medicine. I wonder if they'll find out that she's been murdered, and if they do, it'll be interesting to see what they can deduce from it and see what leads they find and where it takes them next.
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2012-11-30, 21:28 | Link #52 | |
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The double-plastic statue scared the hell out of me this episode. The bodies curled around each other, and the heads....
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2012-11-30, 21:28 | Link #53 | |
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2012-11-30, 22:14 | Link #54 | ||
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Yeah, I know you mean the work itself but it's quite clear art in that society is boring in general so.... Also, the politician's hippocampus being shoved up his ass in response to him saying "I don't remember" was pretty funny. As was Masaoka scaring girls
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2012-12-01, 01:01 | Link #56 |
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Another question to ask would be this:
Do people like this exist precisely because the Sibyl System created them? Because from what I see Makishima is intentionally looking for people who are aware of of Sibyl's dominance yet seek to break the metaphorical chains binding them from their... "potentials". I use the word potential, and not criminal capacity, because he now seems to find Kogami a curiosity. It seems that criminal capability is not his main criteria for choosing. He is looking for people who stand unique, and probably apart, from the rest of the people zombified by Sibyl, whether it's in criminal activities or not. People who have the capacity to rebel from the system in one way or another, to make something of themselves apart from the "mindless and mediocre masses" who live under the system. So, essentially, an Ubermensch concept.
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