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Old 2013-06-16, 17:32   Link #1201
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no. in this case I see Ise willingly stepping back and supporting Gasper from the shadows since in all fairness this is far more Gasper's fight than anyone else.
I see more Issei helping Gasper to control himself as the same as Vitra, and then gasper will help issei as a support character must to defeat the villains.

Remember, We don't confuse just because the main of the story has the word vampire, that gasper is the one power up, as i said before(http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...09#post4726209).
All the members are improving, and the story also told about wizards, Le fay can help issei too in this batle, we dont know.
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Old 2013-06-16, 17:57   Link #1202
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It's not about the word "vampire" that Gasper is going to be the lead for this mini-arc. Its because its personal and critical to Gasper's development. He got disowned and nearly killed because of those same vampires, and he still fears them somewhat. Sitting in the background supporting Issei is not an option.

Just like Kiba was the lead (of sorts) in his own arc when he had to overcome his trauma because of his friends killed in that experiment, Gasper must do the same.

Ise will fight a main villain, but it won't be someone related to Gasper's past.
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Old 2013-06-16, 18:00   Link #1203
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Guys, haven't anyone of you thought that maybe both factions of the Vampire race are enemies?
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Old 2013-06-16, 18:05   Link #1204
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Guys, haven't anyone of you thought that maybe both factions of the Vampire race are enemies?
mmmmm. I never think that, but it can be a posibility. But i think that in the end of this vampire war Issei will do that the vampires join in the peace of the other fractions.

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Old 2013-06-16, 21:56   Link #1205
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Well...I started the Kiryuu and Tiamat theory and it got a violent reactions from quite a number of people due the destruction of Tiamat human form being a hot girl lol. Ok Kiryuu or Aika Kiriyu (桐生 藍華) LOL....The kanji of her name has the word blue (藍) in it.....and riyu sounds like ryu which means dragon.
That is actually Indigo. 藍 in Chinese it means blue but in Japanese it means Indigo, in Japan they use 青(Ao) for Blue.
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Old 2013-06-16, 22:21   Link #1206
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mmmmm. I never think that, but it can be a posibility. But i think that in the end of this vampire war Issei will do that the vampires join in the peace of the other fractions.
Well, it pretty much depends ... on what kind of personality - general portrayal the rest of the vampire is going to have. After all, if most of their members are going to have a similar mentality as the one, who appeared in volume 14, then I don't see them, joining any of the other fractions ... even if Ise and the rest of the Gremory group, help them to "resolve" their current "war".
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mmmmm. I never think that, but it can be a posibility. But i think that in the end of this vampire war Issei will do that the vampires join in the peace of the other fractions.
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Well, it pretty much depends ... on what kind of personality - general portrayal the rest of the vampire is going to have. After all, if most of their members are going to have a similar mentality as the one, who appeared in volume 14, then I don't see them, joining any of the other fractions ... even if Ise and the rest of the Gremory group, help them to "resolve" their current "war".
Wasn't that the whole point of this arc? Facing a situation where both factions are potential enemies? Neither side is good, pure blood vampires are racist, prejudicial and just plain jerks, so the Gremory Team have to choose the lesser evil. That's why I don't understand this infatuation with making a leader of a vampire side fall for Issei, the author purposely showed us a messenger, not nobility, so we can see how the vampires are, they are portrayed as callous, calculating and just shy of evil for a reason. Valerie aside I don't see any reason why Issei would care about the affections of Vamp anyway, they made a terrible first impression for him. Personally, I think this arc is going to the most intricate out of all of them, there is probably going to be more political and social themes being touched on so the echi might be toned down.

Do you guys think Kiba is going to be enough to protect Rias in case something goes wrong? Potentially the author might be getting them out of the picture so as to develop Gasper and some of the other girls that need it. What do you guys think?
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Old 2013-06-16, 23:09   Link #1208
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Wasn't that the whole point of this arc? Facing a situation where both factions are potential enemies? Neither side is good, pure blood vampires are racist, prejudicial and just plain jerks, so the Gremory Team have to choose the lesser evil. That's why I don't understand this infatuation with making a leader of a vampire side fall for Issei, the author purposely showed us a messenger, not nobility, so we can see how the vampires are, they are portrayed as callous, calculating and just shy of evil for a reason. Valerie aside I don't see any reason why Issei would care about the affections of Vamp anyway, they made a terrible first impression for him. Personally, I think this arc is going to the most intricate out of all of them, there is probably going to be more political and social themes being touched on so the echi might be toned down.
I agree with you on quite a few of the points you made.
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Do you guys think Kiba is going to be enough to protect Rias in case something goes wrong? Potentially the author might be getting them out of the picture so as to develop Gasper and some of the other girls that need it. What do you guys think?
He should be more than enough to protect Rias and Rias is pretty strong to take care of herself. Honestly, I don't see anything harm being done to them or them being threaten by either of the Vampire Factions. If any harm is done to them by either of the Vampire Factions it would mean instigating a war with the Devils.
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Wasn't that the whole point of this arc? Facing a situation where both factions are potential enemies? Neither side is good, pure blood vampires are racist, prejudicial and just plain jerks, so the Gremory Team have to choose the lesser evil. That's why I don't understand this infatuation with making a leader of a vampire side fall for Issei, the author purposely showed us a messenger, not nobility, so we can see how the vampires are, they are portrayed as callous, calculating and just shy of evil for a reason. Valerie aside I don't see any reason why Issei would care about the affections of Vamp anyway, they made a terrible first impression for him. Personally, I think this arc is going to the most intricate out of all of them, there is probably going to be more political and social themes being touched on so the echi might be toned down.

Do you guys think Kiba is going to be enough to protect Rias in case something goes wrong? Potentially the author might be getting them out of the picture so as to develop Gasper and some of the other girls that need it. What do you guys think?
I had the assumption that both factions of the Vampire race may be enemies for a while now. I found it strange that no one mentioned it until I had to. All your points are straight on, and I agree with all of them. Still, remember, the author of High School of DXD is not a normal author so expect strange stuff to happen even an high tier enemy fall in love with our perverted Protagonist.
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Old 2013-06-16, 23:34   Link #1210
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He should be more than enough to protect Rias and Rias is pretty strong to take care of herself. Honestly, I don't see anything harm being done to them or them being threaten by either of the Vampire Factions. If any harm is done to them by either of the Vampire Factions it would mean instigating a war with the Devils.
I know how strong Kiba is and Rias just got a new power-up but 2 high class devils can still be taken down by 10-20 middle class ones. Honestly Kiba just had a whole volume focused on him and Rias before that, I see them being either overwhelmed in a fight or held prisoner by waiving the alliance request over there heads. The author stated that this coming arc will focus Gasper as the main with Ross, Xenovia and Ravel being developed more. Seeing as how Ravel has been getting some time to shine the rest are probably getting some action as well.


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I had the assumption that both factions of the Vampire race may be enemies for a while now. I found it strange that no one mentioned it until I had to. All your points are straight on, and I agree with all of them. Still, remember, the author of High School of DXD is not a normal author so expect strange stuff to happen even an high tier enemy fall in love with our perverted Protagonist.
Me too, I guess some folks just read the volumes on face value and don't try to actually understand what is going on or what events mean to the story as a whole. Issei was demeaned and belittled in front of his loves with absolutely no way of defending himself, the scene in the bath with Ravel speaks volumes to how his pride was hurt, his mind was elsewhere and confided in her his insecurities. He didn't even care that she was naked other than stating the obvious, just shows how bad Isseis pride was hurt, for someone like our main character that alone indicates a great deal.
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Regarding the question if Kiba is going to be enough to protect Rias, personally I think that it depends on what is going to actually happen during their visits to the opposing vampire fractions.

While Kiba and Rias are definitely strong enough to deal with any normal situations, ... after a few high ranking members of the "reformed" Khaos Brigade gets involved in this conflict - which, I believe is quite likely, I see them having no other choice but to call the rest of the Gremory group for some support in dealing with this situation.

Although, I hope that Rias and Kiba won't be taken prisoner / kidnapped, since I think that kind of plot is a little too cliche, and I definitely think that the author can use some more interesting plot point to bring the rest of the Gremory group to Rias and Kiba's location.
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Old 2013-06-17, 00:08   Link #1212
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My prediction for this arc is that Rias does something to make both factions openly act hostile so the blame is on them, then Ise and Kiba wipe the floor with them. Meanwhile, Gasper grabs his friend and they ditch the whole shebang. Sirzechs later pays for their honeymoon.
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Regarding the question if Kiba is going to be enough to protect Rias, personally I think that it depends on what is going to actually happen during their visits to the opposing vampire fractions.

While Kiba and Rias are definitely strong enough to deal with any normal situations, ... after a few high ranking members of the "reformed" Khaos Brigade gets involved in this conflict - which, I believe is quite likely, I see them having no other choice but to call the rest of the Gremory group for some support in dealing with this situation.

Although, I hope that Rias and Kiba won't be taken prisoner / kidnapped, since I think that kind of plot is a little too cliche, and I definitely think that the author can use some more interesting plot point to bring the rest of the Gremory group to Rias and Kiba's location.
Never meant to imply that Rias and Kiba can't handle themselves I just had noticed that the two people going to the vampire homeland are the two people who just had major character development, so I figured maybe something will keep them out of the main story for a volume so as to focus on Gasper. Like how the author did to Xenovia, Irina, Ross and Gasper during the battle against the hero faction through to Isseis resurrection.

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Old 2013-06-17, 10:47   Link #1214
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Someone can translate this,
こちら、通常版はセラフォルーが目印となっております!
木場と朱乃の過去エピソードなどを交えながら、魔法使いとの契約話の続き、そして吸血鬼編の開幕まで入って おります。
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次の16巻ではいろいろと四章の核心に触れていきます。

来年は、まだスポットの当たっていない後発ヒロイン(ゼノヴィア、イリナ、ロスヴァイセ)のメイン巻をそれ ぞれやっていきます。
プロットはすでにかなり先まで通っておりますし、四章の流れは大分前に出来上がっているのであとは突っ走る だけです。

いちおう、そろそろD×Dは三学期に突入します。
長い、いや、長すぎた激動の二学期もついに終わりを迎えます。
D×Dの物語の大半は二学期でしたからね。
ここだけの話、短編のエピソードを加えると、実は二学期の日数を超過していたり!
まあ、その辺はお気になさらずに。


The translator give me this:
Here, usually version becomes the mark is Seraforu!
And while exchanging and past episodes of Akeno and Kiba, we entered to the opening of the vampire hen and continued, the contract talk with the witch.
I think if you pay attention, Le Fay fan and black song.
I will continue to touch the heart of the four chapters in various ways in the 16-volume next.

Next year, I will continue to do each the main volume (Zenovu~ia, Irina, Rosuvu~aise) of generic heroine that does not hit the spot yet.
The plot has been through quite to the point already, and I just rip After flow of chapter four because it finished before Oita.

The time being, D × D is plunged into three semester soon.
Long, no, I will come to an end at last for two semester of upheaval too long.
The majority of the story of D × D because I was a two semester.
Between ourselves, If you make a short episode, in fact, you can not exceed the number of days in the second term!
Well, not to be relied on every its side.


It means that DxD will finish in 3 Semesters??????
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Old 2013-06-17, 11:32   Link #1215
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WILD LION, what does 3 semesters mean?

- 3 seasons of weather.
- 3 years.
- or 3 something.

and where did you get that?
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It means that DxD will finish in 3 Semesters??????
The author is saying that its about time Issei and the other second years (Kiba, Xenovia, Asia, etc) to enter their third year as High School students.
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WILD LION, what does 3 semesters mean?

- 3 seasons of weather.
- 3 years.
- or 3 something.

and where did you get that?
This is the author site:
http://ishibumi.exblog.jp/
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The author is saying that its about time Issei and the other second years (Kiba, Xenovia, Asia, etc) to enter their third year as High School students.
OOO. And, what do you think will happen with Rias, Akeno and Sona?

I have a memory of Grayfia tells Rias that when she finish her studies, she should go to college to become a Miss
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And for Rias and Akeno to graduate into a university, which from what I remember was mentioned, in one of the side stories, to be pretty close to the Academy, that Ise and the rest of the second years go to.

Although, it makes me interested on the topic of who is going to become the official "club president" of the Occult Research Club ... since I doubt that Rias can "officially" keep that position after she graduates from High school.
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Oh, yeah. You're right.

If I remember correctly, Ise has been a demon/dragon-hybrid for almost a year.

And there's so many problems that has surfaced ever since Ise became a Servant of Rias.

The engagement, the 3 Great Alliance, Rating Games(Sona, Diodora, and Sairaorg), Khaos Brigade activity , Battle with Loki, Kyoto Incident, Ise's Death and Return from a devil to Humanoid Dragon, Battle with the Evil Dragons and remnants of KB and next the Vampire Arc.

All of that happen during the course of his 2nd year of high school.

What's going to happen next during his third year?

More trouble is brewing. This I can tell for sure.
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