Fate/ Series Q&A

[GreyZone]

mind spoilers...

Spoiler for UBW 2nd cour:

When Archer fights vs Shirou, Archer mentions that "her sheath" is still having an effect on Shirou even though the contract is broken.

EDIT: Argh, a ninja.

[iBeast]

How does Rin not know that Sakura is her sister?

[GDB]

She does know.

[Levani]

But pretends that she doesn't know who Sakura is.

[Student no.0]

So why exactly did Artoria's Resistance defend against Medea's beams but not against Bluebeard's monsters and the Reinforcement given to Kuzuki through Medea?

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by Student no.0

So why exactly did Artoria's Resistance defend against Medea's beams but not against Bluebeard's monsters and the Reinforcement given to Kuzuki through Medea?

It's called "magic resistence", because it defends against "magical damage". I cannot remember the monsters from F/Z, but in Kuzuki's case, his attacks were mostly physical with maybe a little bit of "conceptual" attribute added in. The "magic reinforcement" was used on Kuzuki, not on Saber, so her magic resistance could not help her.

[Student no.0]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

It's called "magic resistence", because it defends against "magical damage". I cannot remember the monsters from F/Z, but in Kuzuki's case, his attacks were mostly physical with maybe a little bit of "conceptual" attribute added in. The "magic reinforcement" was used on Kuzuki, not on Saber, so her magic resistance could not help her.

Shouldn't her magic resistance have nullified any damage that Kuzuki's magical fists could've done against anyone else though? I can get that his fighting skills did most of the work, but wasn't it the magical reinforcement the main factor on why it packed so much of a punch to cripple Artoria to the extent that it did when he striked the nape of her neck?

Also why didn't Instinct prevent Artoria from getting downed like that? ... Then again, Kuzuki was able to deal that blow pretty much cause Artoria's surprise had her lose her balance for a really brief moment for him to take advantage of that opening, so it's not like it could've done much.

If anything, if it weren't for Medea, Kuzuki would've likely gotten train wrecked since Artoria became well aware of his skill and dangerous power-up now, right? What's the likelihood of Kuzuki's skill being effective against guys like Hassan, Cu Chulainn, or Sasaki Kojiro? At this point Archer is likely aware of this through Rin to be able to adjust his defenses in case they ran into each other right?

[Rising Dragon]

The Magic Resistance skill is used to cancel out spells used on Saber. On Saber, not on others. So Caster's energy beams were deflected. Caster's Reinforcement spells were not used on Saber, they were used on Kuzuki. They were affecting him, so Magic Resistance doesn't apply. It is not a case of a huge anti-magic field around her, negating everything that comes within range. Hell, if it were, wouldn't it negate the use of her own magically-woven armor, or the spell concealing Excalibur?

So she was getting hit by incredibly strong physical blows, not by incredibly strong magic spells, when she fought Kuzuki. Similarly, Gilles de Rais' beasties were summoned creatures, and had physical form. They were not spells to be negated.

As for Kuzuki fighting other Servants, Hassan-i-Sabbah and Cu Chulainn could kill him instantly if they desired, thanks to their Noble Phantasms. Sasaki Kojiro would probably be an even fight, but there's a good possibility that Kuzuki would win, by destroying his sword while not giving him a chance to utilize Tsubame Gaeshi.

[iBeast]

Originally Posted by Levani

But pretends that she doesn't know who Sakura is.

........why?

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

The Magic Resistance skill is used to cancel out spells used on Saber. On Saber, not on others. So Caster's energy beams were deflected. Caster's Reinforcement spells were not used on Saber, they were used on Kuzuki. They were affecting him, so Magic Resistance doesn't apply. It is not a case of a huge anti-magic field around her, negating everything that comes within range. Hell, if it were, wouldn't it negate the use of her own magically-woven armor, or the spell concealing Excalibur?

So she was getting hit by incredibly strong physical blows, not by incredibly strong magic spells, when she fought Kuzuki. Similarly, Gilles de Rais' beasties were summoned creatures, and had physical form. They were not spells to be negated.

As for Kuzuki fighting other Servants, Hassan-i-Sabbah and Cu Chulainn could kill him instantly if they desired, thanks to their Noble Phantasms. Sasaki Kojiro would probably be an even fight, but there's a good possibility that Kuzuki would win, by destroying his sword while not giving him a chance to utilize Tsubame Gaeshi.

Well, Kuzuki still needs to be able to even damage servants at all (you know, that thing about "guns being totally useless against servants" applies to normal melee weapons or human fists as well), because usually that can only be done by magic, or by adding a "conceptual" factor into it, like Noble Phantasms. Even though Saber is a special case and possibly does not have this protection of "being a spirit", Kuzuki was still able to damage Rider. According to spoilers for Mahoyo, the place Kuzuki learned his skills from, caused the practioners to be able to "ignore" conceptual defenses, including things like "immortality status" and the like, which would explain why Kuzuki was even able to do damage to servants with mere (magically enhanced) fists at all.

[Nayrael]

Originally Posted by iBeast

........why?

Mage reasons mainly. There is not much place for warmth in the Mage World (especially since they are now formally rivals).

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by iBeast

........why?

Her parents told her so when they let the Matou adopt Sakura. Rin takes her responsibilities as a daughter of the Tohsaka and as a mage seriously. Though it hasn't stopped Rin from watching Sakura behind the scenes.

[Student no.0]

@GreyZone & RisingDragon

Got it, thanks for answering.

[Cherry_Lover]

Yeah, Rin is fully aware that Sakura is her sister and does care about her. However, she doesn't want to admit to that, especially to Shirou, because her father told her to consider Sakura to be no longer part of her family (and Sakura was told the same).

[Dengar]

It's not even that she doesn't want to admit it. The whole fact that Rin is a Tohsaka and Sakura is a Matou who each have their own lifestyle and brand of magic means one should not meddle in the affairs of the other, which is why the relationship remains distant.

[Gx Hero]

Well that breaks down During the grail war. Good thing to because their fathers are dead and for what.

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by Gx Hero

Well that breaks down During the grail war. Good thing to because their fathers are dead and for what.

Actually only in HF. We have no idea what happens in Fate and UBW regarding that matter.

[[AL]Noctis]

Hey quick question. What constitutes as a franchise veteran? Since there are two threads for UBW, I want to know which one I should go too.

I've watched the Fate/DEEN, Fate/0, prototype, read parts of Fate/Apocrypha, and some of the original vn though my memory of it is pretty hazy and I never did get to finish the HF route.

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by [AL]Noctis

Hey quick question. What constitutes as a franchise veteran? Since there are two threads for UBW, I want to know which one I should go too.

I've watched the Fate/DEEN, Fate/0, prototype, read parts of Fate/Apocrypha, and some of the original vn though my memory of it is pretty hazy and I never did get to finish the HF route.

Than you are a franchise veteran. The "New Viewers" board is for who the UBW anime is their first Fate/Stay Night work.

[Phantom]

Who voices Nero, the Red Saber?