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10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 21 | 15.22% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 28 | 20.29% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 42 | 30.43% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 24 | 17.39% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 13 | 9.42% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 4 | 2.90% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 3 | 2.17% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Torturous... | 3 | 2.17% | |
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2012-08-16, 02:16 | Link #241 | |
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2012-08-16, 02:42 | Link #242 | |
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That doesn't mean he's not approachable, since he was ok with partying with Klein (plus everyone else). |
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2012-08-16, 03:12 | Link #243 | |
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2012-08-16, 05:19 | Link #245 | |
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"Soloing is really hard, but you'll just have to take my word for it" <- paraphrased from a high level solo front liner. Being told something is less impactful than seeing it. This would be like, instead of showing Sachi dying, we just have Kirito say "Sachi died in a trap in some dungeon and it's my fault". Would your reaction to that be "wow, great story telling"? |
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2012-08-16, 05:20 | Link #246 | |
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2012-08-16, 05:26 | Link #247 | |
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Aside from it making his character sounds cooler.
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2012-08-16, 06:03 | Link #248 | |
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I mean, really? Heck, I'll gladly accept Kirito's self-imposed solo status as long as we get to see the bits with human interactions. I think we've all seen boring hours of MMO gameplay by now. Even VR MMO gameplay is going to be boring. Pretty, bur boring. The .Hack movie was smart enough to only show about 60 seconds of it. |
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2012-08-16, 06:18 | Link #249 | |
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If he's a beater, he should be detested and some people would try to PK him. But no one's after him, AND he's accepted in the front line without complaints (well, other than Asuna). How does he compete for xp against other parties? We're told he only goes for easy/soloable targets, yet group parties would actually fight the same foes to lessen the risk of death. Of course, knowing the format of this show, they'll probably not be explore these parts and it'll just be left up to the audience to fill in the blanks. |
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2012-08-16, 06:21 | Link #250 | |
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It's not that anyone wants endless boring grinding, but can't they show the actual struggle Kirito went through the game as a solo-player, even if it's just a glimpse? Also, please, don't lash out just yet. Nobody is being overly offensive yet and you shouldn't be the one who start it.
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2012-08-16, 07:02 | Link #251 | |
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Anyone who kills him just cause he is a beater would be labelled as a red player. I also don't think he is accepted in the frontlines as well as you think he is. Otherwise he would have been a member in one of the top guilds by now considering how good a player he is. The only offer for guild membership came from a middle guild (black cats) and that was cause they didn't know he was a beater.
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2012-08-16, 07:17 | Link #252 | ||
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Also, I'd imagine that tag would stop being meaningful after a year. It may have had off-screen impact early on, but now I'd think it would likely be disregarded. Quote:
//EDIT: Well, we can, it's most of what we've been doing up 'till now. Last edited by Adigard; 2012-08-16 at 07:31. |
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2012-08-16, 07:42 | Link #253 | |
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2012-08-16, 07:56 | Link #254 | ||
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After accepting his role as the scape goat you'd think a few people would want justice (death or jail). He isn't in a top level guild because he prefers soloing. He has said so multiple times. We don't know the exact level of acceptance he has in the frontlines, but judging from the following facts, I'd say he's doing ok: 1. he is able to keep up in the frontline as a solo player 2. he is able to join boss clearing meetings 3. no one (in the frontlines) has shown hostility towards him (that we've seen; disagreements with Asuna doesn't really count) Quote:
The whole thing that got me into this thread was when a few people said "when's the main plot coming?" (which I was wondering too), and the response was essentially "this is the main plot" (plus I haven't read any of the previous episode threads, so I don't know what had or hadn't been discussed/spoiled by novel readers). Of course we have confirmed these are side stories (and it was painfully obvious), and I wonder if they stuck had with the original format would there be less complaints? Then again, with the whole time skipping format the number of complaints would probably be the same, but I'm still waiting to see what'll happen next. |
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2012-08-16, 08:08 | Link #255 | |||
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As for the bit with Silica, he was being more cautious this time around what with giving her better equips and a teleportation crystal, as well as not actively hiding his high level. These are all little things that serve to show Kirito being more careful as a result of what happened with the Black Cats. Quote:
I don't think it's a stretch to say that the Black Cats at least somewhat motivated him to take the detour in episode 4. Kirito could have easily thrown in a line that would have connected the two episodes together. Quote:
It's also important to note that the people he parties with are generally open-minded people, Asuna herself didn't seem perturbed by Kirito's status back in episode 2. When I think about it, the type of people who would be put off by the beater title are those with a false sense of entitlement, like that one douche back in episode 2, or those who are going through a lot of emotional stress and need an outlet, like the guild leader who had his whole guild wiped in episode 3. I'm hoping this does become a bigger issue when the story focuses on the front lines where I'm sure there will be a fair share of big ego-ed high level players and suffering. |
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2012-08-16, 08:09 | Link #256 |
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I think the risk of death from other players is greatly exaggerated. Most people aren't murderers no matter how much they hate someone, and being trapped in a game hasn't changed that. The risk of being a beater is surely closer to bullying than murder.
On the other hand, the clearers, as a group, are exactly the kinds of people who accept him despite that. These are the people who risk their lives every day with the hope of eventually escaping. They simply don't have the luxury to be picky about who they work with. Not to mention they've long since passed the beta's progress, so any "cheating knowledge" would be useless now. So basically the label only matters for mid-level players, and only the sense of bullying. It's not really that big a burden. |
2012-08-16, 08:56 | Link #257 | |
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Actually let me rephrase that. Sure, maybe they don't really think themselves murderers. "It's a freaking game! There is no proof that you'll really die if you're killed (ughh...Shirou will cry if he hears this). You guys are the one who's strange taking it seriously." As shown with the Silica ep, I'm guessing most people who do PK do it with something similar to above reasoning and not actually wanting to be murderers. BUT, that's actually why the threat of death by PK is actually higher than ever.
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2012-08-16, 09:02 | Link #258 | |
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I can see why some may not like this approach... but it's okay with me, anyway.
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2012-08-16, 09:03 | Link #259 | |
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Also, PK guilds would be incredibly rare. It takes a certain kind of sociopathy to even take the risk of killing someone, regardless of whether or not you personally believe it. |
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2012-08-16, 09:17 | Link #260 | ||
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Also, what do you think will happen if someone who acts like Leroy Jenkins join the clearing battles? NINJA EDIT: Quote:
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