Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (ver 2 old)

[hanseo]

Originally Posted by gabbytay

why??? even Cornelia blames geass that cause her death.

because he is the geass user and it's was his geass

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Eliarine

Well, you certainly seem to be objective,

Haha, I dunno really; I've stated that I don't like Suzaku nor agree with his way of doing things (though I can see where he is coming from) - but I've still even defended him in some cases even, when people try to argue that he's Evil Incarnate or that his intentions are only pure evil (at worst he's just the Knight Templar type) .

Originally Posted by Eliarine

but some of the posts we get in various threads make me wonder whether some people actually "get" both characters ^^; That said of course everyone can like or hate a character for their own reasons~~

Well, of course people are bound to be biased. But it also depends on other thigns, of course - remember, for example, that the Freedom Fighter is more commonly seen as the hero/good guy than the Collaborator.

[Sol Falling]

Man, stupid school computers. Because of their random ancient crappy tech, I had to have my first post fail because quick reply doesn't work, write it a second time, email it to myself, discover that I could actually post it by using the 'reply' button, discover that the computers are so crappy they can't even display email properly (meaning I couldn't get at what I'd emailed to myself), and thus wait three hours to get back to my laptop at home. Ridiculous. Well whatever, here's something about what you guys were discussing a while back.

Keep in mind that I'm only saying this because I know that it can't even possibly happen, but if Shirley's final words to Lelouch were truly "I...hate...you," then yes, I would find it hilarious and exhilirating. Here's the reason why: it would be like Shirley--finally freed by her death from all the malice, humiliation, and suffering she was made to carry as a 'minor character' in this show--finally decided to turn against everything Code Geass stands for, cursing Lulu/Zero/Lelouch with all her being as she fades from existance. It would be a true denial of the fate which has chained her from her very birth as a character in this story--it would be empowering.

I almost wish it would actually happen. Because, deep in my heart, I can feel it: at this rate, Shirley will not amount to anything. Once we reach the end of her arc, she will be forgotten. By the fans, and more unforgivably, by Lelouch. They will move on, not looking back, leaving Shirley with nothing but some token 5 second flashback at the end of the series. Despicably, she will have failed--in making Lelouch love her; in righting him from the path his feet fell upon; in seeing him at his true potential. All her life's struggles and dreams will be rendered meaningless, lost in the stream of a story. A story of what?

It's just a feeling, of course. A feeling that no one will remember what Shirley stands for. But it's a feeling that, were it to find a basis in reality, would cripple so much of my respect for this show. So with this feeling almost settled within me, it's true: I would laugh and love to see Shirley curse everything along with me.

[Eliarine]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Haha, I dunno really; I've stated that I don't like Suzaku nor agree with his way of doing things (though I can see where he is coming from) - but I've still even defended him in some cases even, when people try to argue that he's Evil Incarnate or that his intentions are only pure evil (at worst he's just the Knight Templar type) .

Disagreeing with his methods but understanding where he comes from, or at the very least trying to, is being objective to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I'd call biased those claiming that he's going to kill Nunally, Shirley, Lelouch and Kallen "because he's Evil incarnate".

[KrimzonStriker]

A bit bitter don't you think Sol?

[TheRainbowConnection]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Hey, I think most of us can "see where both Suzaku and Lelouch are coming from", as such.

I think you're overestimating this fandom, to be honest.

[yezhanquan]

I'm actually still waiting for the equivalent of the Kira-Athrun dukefest in CG.

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by yezhanquan

I'm actually still waiting for the equivalent of the Kira-Athrun dukefest in CG.

Not happening, for as you know, Lelouch is not good enough of a pilot for that. Even a regular fist-fight wouldn't work. They'll just have to do it like they always have and I don't expect that to really change even after this development

[Cipheric]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

I've taken this thread's virginity


Now, who says Milly will break off her engagement?

Haha, i kinda wonder why shes with him :x?

[yezhanquan]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Not happening, for as you know, Lelouch is not good enough of a pilot for that

Not in Knightmare Frames. Maybe some sort of other duel. Give Lulu Suzaku's reflexes, and Lulu's Geass to Suzaku. If there is an ultimate Chessmaster, it is possible.

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Not happening, for as you know, Lelouch is not good enough of a pilot for that. Even a regular fist-fight wouldn't work. They'll just have to do it like they always have and I don't expect that to really change even after this development

With Suzaku kicking Lelouch's ass physically until Lelouch pulls some trap to turn things around or until Kallen comes to save his ass?

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by yezhanquan

Not in Knightmare Frames. Maybe some sort of other duel. Give Lulu Suzaku's reflexes, and Lulu's Geass to Suzaku. If there is an ultimate Chessmaster, it is possible.

Not happening either, there's a limit to how cheesy things can get and this is pushing it

Originally Posted by demon_god04

With Suzaku kicking Lelouch's ass physically until Lelouch pulls some trap to turn things around or until Kallen comes to save his ass?

Yup, good times, good times, though now with Kallen in enemy hands I hope for Rolo to take her place in that department

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Yup, good times, good times, though now with Kallen in enemy hands I hope for Rolo to take her place in that department

Kallen is irreplaceable Although Rollo might be an adequate substitute for now.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Yup, good times, good times, though now with Kallen in enemy hands I hope for Rolo to take her place in that department

Temporarily or permantently? (I'm all for the first - Rolo needs to shine a bit as well - but not the second! )

[yezhanquan]

Now, I wonder to what extent are Suzaku's abilities supernatural. If removed, will he become Lulu's standard? (unlikely, IMO)

[demon_god04]

I bet Krimzon is secretly hoping for the second and that C.C would take over Kallen's position.

Seriously though, I hope we get to see the Gurren in action again in a few episodes, I miss it already.

[Captain Zechs]

Who needs Rolo when you have Xingke? Now HE would kick Suzaku's ass.

[hanseo]

cc or rolo will take over kallen position for good

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by hanseo

cc or rolo will take over kallen position for good

I expected no other answer from you, just so that you know
You always seem to purposefully go for the most provoking response after alll

[yezhanquan]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

I expected no other answer from you, just so that you know
You always seem to purposefully go for the most provoking response after alll

Heh.

On the issue, I don't think C.C. is entirely on Lulu's side. This green-haired waif is up to something.

Rolo will most likely die, if only from the overuse of his Geass.